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Post by HeyYo on Mar 17, 2022 13:22:13 GMT -5
I respect the view that Buffalo didn't do anything to help or surround him. They didn't improve as a team while he was there and management should have been booed for how they've been for the last 10 years or so. I think Kevyn Adams will turn things around though, they have a great prospect pool and their young players have a ton of potential. Where it differs in booing management and Eichel is that if they wanted to boo management, they would have booed the team. They could throw jerseys on the ice or wear bags over their heads like in other markets. They could chant fire this coach, this gm, for Pegula to sell the team. They chose Eichel specifically. They could have chanted "We Want Eichel" or something but they booed. The arena was rocking that night and they were estatic that they beat Eichel. If he wasn't on Vegas the atmosphere wouldn't have been like that. They were happy they beat him. Eichel is 25 and been in the league for 7 years. Not a young 18 year old rookie. He's always been terrible and very short with the media. They weren't sad to see him go either. He should have expected at least some boos too, so I don't think it was heat of the moment. He should have been prepared for that. I also know that it's not a well kept secret in the league that he's one of the most hated guys off the ice. None of his teammates stuck up for him regarding the surgery or said they were going to miss him. Also, if you'd like, you can send me a private message as one of my friends played in the league and knows him off the ice. Hates his guts. Eichel is a prima donna. Having said that, there's two major things at play here. One, the overstep of teams to say what surgery you can or cannot get. That's wild and dystopian, and soured a relationship between Eichel and Buffalo that was probably going to blow up in a few years anyway. Secondly, fans are always gonna boo when you are one of their best players (probably the best) and you leave and they're a bottom team. People don't like rejection. Hell, CM Punk is BELOVED by wrestling fans today. But not everyone was that way when he left WWE or when he was getting his ass kicked in the UFC. All due to silly perceived rejection. The fans don't hate him because he was a jerk to the media. I mean, maybe a very small minority do. But they hate him because he left. That's like 95% of the issue. We've seen it a billion times in sports. If not for Arizona, Buffalo would be by a wide margin the biggest tire fire in hockey. I don't blame anyone for wanting out of there, even before the medical silliness. Pegula needs to sell. Having said all that, Eichel better stay in top shape or he is probably going to age very poorly. As the league catches up to his skill level over the years, he's gonna have to change his attitude and actually play defense. He always got his way in Buffalo before the surgery debacle. Getting the C and O'Reilly friction and getting wingers when he wanted help. Wonder how he will react when he's not getting kowtowed to. I agree on the team's say on the surgery. Despite what he apparently is as a person, if I was in his shoes, I wouldn't blindly just do what they'd say for a a major surgery like that. He appears to have made a full recovery so far. I hope I wasn't coming across that the Buffalo doctors were fully in the right, I don't know enough about it to choose a side but considering how quickly he came back and got cleared he could have been in the right. I don't disagree that people don't like rejection. It is true in every sport around the world. From an outsider point of view as someone that's not a Buffalo fan, it seemed like the market was done with him in that market. If they were winning, I'm sure his attitude could have been different and the response would have been different. Of course the fans were upset he wanted out. I guess the point I was trying to make was that he had shitted on the team publicly after the trade and then acted surprised he got booed. He could have just shrugged it off and moved on. Those fans have paid good money for a decade with seeing a shitty product and he was ungratful towards them. I'm half a bottle of wine in (Happy St Pattys Day!) and haven't proof read this. If it doesn't make sense, I'll talk better tomorrow!
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Post by sfvega on Mar 17, 2022 13:35:50 GMT -5
Eichel is a prima donna. Having said that, there's two major things at play here. One, the overstep of teams to say what surgery you can or cannot get. That's wild and dystopian, and soured a relationship between Eichel and Buffalo that was probably going to blow up in a few years anyway. Secondly, fans are always gonna boo when you are one of their best players (probably the best) and you leave and they're a bottom team. People don't like rejection. Hell, CM Punk is BELOVED by wrestling fans today. But not everyone was that way when he left WWE or when he was getting his ass kicked in the UFC. All due to silly perceived rejection. The fans don't hate him because he was a jerk to the media. I mean, maybe a very small minority do. But they hate him because he left. That's like 95% of the issue. We've seen it a billion times in sports. If not for Arizona, Buffalo would be by a wide margin the biggest tire fire in hockey. I don't blame anyone for wanting out of there, even before the medical silliness. Pegula needs to sell. Having said all that, Eichel better stay in top shape or he is probably going to age very poorly. As the league catches up to his skill level over the years, he's gonna have to change his attitude and actually play defense. He always got his way in Buffalo before the surgery debacle. Getting the C and O'Reilly friction and getting wingers when he wanted help. Wonder how he will react when he's not getting kowtowed to. I agree on the team's say on the surgery. Despite what he apparently is as a person, if I was in his shoes, I wouldn't blindly just do what they'd say for a a major surgery like that. He appears to have made a full recovery so far. I hope I wasn't coming across that the Buffalo doctors were fully in the right, I don't know enough about it to choose a side but considering how quickly he came back and got cleared he could have been in the right. I don't disagree that people don't like rejection. It is true in every sport around the world. From an outsider point of view as someone that's not a Buffalo fan, it seemed like the market was done with him in that market. If they were winning, I'm sure his attitude could have been different and the response would have been different. Of course the fans were upset he wanted out. I guess the point I was trying to make was that he had shitted on the team publicly after the trade and then acted surprised he got booed. He could have just shrugged it off and moved on. Those fans have paid good money for a decade with seeing a shitty product and he was ungratful towards them. I'm half a bottle of wine in (Happy St Pattys Day!) and haven't proof read this. If it doesn't make sense, I'll talk better tomorrow! That all makes perfect sense. Happy St. Patty's Day to you as well.
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Post by Sam Punk on Mar 19, 2022 20:27:21 GMT -5
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Mar 21, 2022 11:43:42 GMT -5
Blackhawks trade Marc-Andre Fleury to the Wild for a conditional first round pick
Wild trade Kaapo Kahkonen and a 2022 5th round pick to the Sharks for Jake Middleton
Kraken trade Marcus Johansson to the Capitals for Daniel Sprong, a 2022 4th round pick, and a 2023 6yh round pick
Flyers trade Ryan Braun to the Rangers for a 2023 3rd round pick
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Mar 21, 2022 13:23:19 GMT -5
The Red Wings traded Nick Leddy and Luke Witkowski to the Blues for Jake Walman, Oskar Sundqvist, and a 2023 2nd round pick
The Canadiens traded Artturi Lehkonen to the Avalanche for Justin Barron and a 2024 2nd round pick
Sharks traded Andrew Cogliano to the Avalanche for a 2024 5th round pick
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Post by sfvega on Mar 21, 2022 14:19:56 GMT -5
Blues got shafted in a deal for the ghost of Nick Leddy. I don't know what we were thinking, but damn does Steve Y get the better of every deal.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Mar 21, 2022 17:00:29 GMT -5
Rangers acquired Tyler Motte from the Canucks for a 2023 4th round pick
Rangers also acquired Andrew Copp from the Jets for Morgan Barron, 2 conditional 2nd round picks, and a 2023 5th round pick
Penguins acquired Rickard Rakell from the Ducks for Zach Aston-Reese, Dominick Simon, Calle Clang, and a 2022 2nd round pick
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 21, 2022 17:44:24 GMT -5
Canucks did their usual, stand Pat and get worse, finish with a mid-1st round pick that’ll never pan out.
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Post by VRM: LET'S GO BLUESHIRTS!! on Mar 27, 2022 18:44:25 GMT -5
My bad luck in going to Rangers games is finally broken. Beautiful view of Vatrano's breakaway for 2-0. (Rangers 5-4 OT win)
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 29, 2022 18:11:38 GMT -5
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Post by sfvega on Mar 29, 2022 18:26:25 GMT -5
Ottawa hated him for being so damn cheap, but their FO really started to put some thing together lately. Sucks that he passed before he could see the fruits of his labor.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 29, 2022 18:32:49 GMT -5
Ottawa hated him for being so damn cheap, but their FO really started to put some thing together lately. Sucks that he passed before he could see the fruits of his labor. He was wasn’t as bad as Dollar Bill, but still….
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Mar 30, 2022 23:30:55 GMT -5
Coyotes' Clayton Keller took a nasty crash into the boards and had to be stretched out with an injury that may be to the hip or femur. Could be a leg fracture as well.
It was bad.
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Post by HeyYo on Apr 8, 2022 2:11:22 GMT -5
I loved the tribute to Rick Jeanneret. He and Bob Cole are my 1A/1B for all time announcers.
I'm not a Buffalo fan but I'm really hoping they can turn it around with the new core they're building. Should have another top 10 pick this year, depending on how Vegas finishes another potential mid-round 1st, and probably a late 1st.
What would others like to see them do at the draft? I would go (obviously) best player available with the first pick. I really like their forward prospect depth and balance already so I would try to build the RD's after the first pick.
Even if they partner Power and Dahlin together on the top pair they need more depth on the right side since they don't have any at all. If they split up Power and Dahlin they could really build on helping them out. They don't have any RD on their current roster and no prospects for it. This draft will be deep and all the mock drafts have plenty of RD's right in the areas they'll be picking. If the Vegas pick is mid-round, I hope they take Tristan Luneau or Ryan Chesley. With the later pick there's plenty of options like Ty Nelson. With how deep this draft is there should be very good D left for their 2nd round pick too.
If they target three really good RD prospects after their first pick, like those guys, they could have a scary prospect core back there and instantly change their biggest area of weakness to a strength. Of course not all picks pan out but it could be a great way to build on that position. I would try to go that route. If they don't make the playoffs next year either they'll have another top 15 pick and the forward depth in next year's draft already looks awesome.
Love the way that Devon Levi is playing this year too and looks to be a promising G.
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Post by VRM: LET'S GO BLUESHIRTS!! on Apr 12, 2022 20:30:58 GMT -5
KREIDER HITS 50! 4th player in Rangers history to reach 50 goals in a season.
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Post by fw91 on Apr 13, 2022 18:32:42 GMT -5
KREIDER HITS 50! 4th player in Rangers history to reach 50 goals in a season. Why did It take him so long to break out?!?
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Post by sfvega on Apr 13, 2022 18:40:56 GMT -5
KREIDER HITS 50! 4th player in Rangers history to reach 50 goals in a season. Just two years ago, it seemed like the fanbase was okay with losing him.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Apr 13, 2022 23:26:12 GMT -5
Chris Pronger went on an unhinged Twitter rant about how 6M a year really isn't that much and guys are struggling to get by.
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Post by HeyYo on Apr 14, 2022 1:13:22 GMT -5
Chris Pronger went on an unhinged Twitter rant about how 6M a year really isn't that much and guys are struggling to get by. People don't understand! After we pay for our luxury houses, cars, and 20k/year for massages, how can we even survive? It's not living the high life. Good thing they have a weight room at the rink. How else could we afford a gym membership? And after we spend 6k/month on our own food, we're expected to feed our own kids? They're lucky to get Kraft Dinner with inflation these days! And all this isn't even considering our yearly vacation expenses. It's really too bad we have to do what we love for a living instead of having a normal job. Now, please excuse me while I retire in my 30's.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Apr 14, 2022 21:36:39 GMT -5
Chris Pronger went on an unhinged Twitter rant about how 6M a year really isn't that much and guys are struggling to get by. People don't understand! After we pay for our luxury houses, cars, and 20k/year for massages, how can we even survive? It's not living the high life. Good thing they have a weight room at the rink. How else could we afford a gym membership? And after we spend 6k/month on our own food, we're expected to feed our own kids? They're lucky to get Kraft Dinner with inflation these days! And all this isn't even considering our yearly vacation expenses. It's really too bad we have to do what we love for a living instead of having a normal job. Now, please excuse me while I retire in my 30's. Look man…replacing all of those knocked out teeth gets expensive after a while.
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