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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 8, 2021 21:41:09 GMT -5
I like Lambert's delivery but "he's SUPPOSED to be a hypocrite!" seems like post hoc backforming to me. I don't think he's "supposed to be" a hypocrite. It's just a character inconsistency. I really think it's hypocrisy and not a walk back. A dude who hates modern wrestling managing modern wrestlers screams that. I don't think that's just be something they'd have inconsistent off of three weeks of building him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 21:53:52 GMT -5
I like Lambert's delivery but "he's SUPPOSED to be a hypocrite!" seems like post hoc backforming to me. I don't think he's "supposed to be" a hypocrite. It's just a character inconsistency. I really think it's hypocrisy and not a walk back. A dude who hates modern wrestling managing modern wrestlers screams that. I don't think that's just be something they'd have inconsistent off of three weeks of building him. I personally think it’s a deliberate character decision to have Lambert manage a couple of guys who don’t even remotely resemble the types of old-school wrestlers he’s touting. It makes it clear that he really only wants to surround himself with yes men. If they wanted to play it straight, I think he’d be managing JD Drake.
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Post by petef3 on Sept 8, 2021 21:53:53 GMT -5
I like Lambert's delivery but "he's SUPPOSED to be a hypocrite!" seems like post hoc backforming to me. I don't think he's "supposed to be" a hypocrite. It's just a character inconsistency. I really think it's hypocrisy and not a walk back. A dude who hates modern wrestling managing modern wrestlers screams that. I don't think that's just be something they'd have inconsistent off of three weeks of building him. Then the announcers need to do their jobs and call him out for it. Schiavone said it himself--he's an old man yelling at clouds. He didn't say anything about him being a hypocrite. No, I'm not asking for every little bit of information to be spoonfed, but this is still wrestling, not literature. If something needs to be put over, then put it over.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 8, 2021 21:55:29 GMT -5
I can't speak to the wrestlers as I'm not familiar, but tonight was my first exposure to Lambert and he was lame.
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Post by petef3 on Sept 8, 2021 22:16:29 GMT -5
And even if Lambert is supposed to be a hypocrite...he'd be more effective if he could actually back up what he talked about instead of being so easily dismissed. I'm not really sure hypocrisy as a defining character trait in a heel is as common as people here seem to think.
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Post by Rave on Sept 8, 2021 22:29:33 GMT -5
He's on the auto-mute/auto-fast forward list. Not interested in his schtick in the slightest, nor in the company he keeps.
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Post by markymark on Sept 8, 2021 22:31:36 GMT -5
There’s nothing on the internet I loathe more than r/scjerk. Lambert playing up that schtick as a smarmy heel character is actually really entertaining to me, at the moment. I can’t wait for him to get his comeuppance. That said, I acknowledge it’s towing a line. If this starts to go on ad nauseam without any payoff I’ll get tired of it. I completely understand why a lot of people already are. Yeh lambert is interesting. Man of the year aew not,trying to get Sky over is nor gonna happen TK. Khan has the same stubborness of Gedo, pushing jabronies who have no business getting pushed only because they are friend with the Elite tbh
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 8, 2021 22:36:52 GMT -5
Yeh lambert is interesting. Man of the year aew not,trying to get Sky over is nor gonna happen TK. Khan has the same stubborness of Gedo, pushing jabronies who have no business getting pushed only because they are friend with the Elite tbh The hell is this take? Men of the Year aren't even being PUSHED. They're a midcard act. And the apathy for Scorpio Sky felt here is not something I see in other subsections of the internet or even heard when he wrestles. He's a perfectly solid in ring hand. To call him a jabronie is really a stretch.
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Post by markymark on Sept 8, 2021 22:44:17 GMT -5
Khan has the same stubborness of Gedo, pushing jabronies who have no business getting pushed only because they are friend with the Elite tbh The hell is this take? Men of the Year aren't even being PUSHED. They're a midcard act. And the apathy for Scorpio Sky felt here is not something I see in other subsections of the internet or even heard when he wrestles. He's a perfectly solid in ring hand. To call him a jabronie is really a stretch. There is no natural chemistry between them, The North worked because Ethans arrogance and Josh seriousness could mesh well together. Would rather have Janela instead at least he could get heat.
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Post by Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks on Sept 8, 2021 22:46:52 GMT -5
I'm borderline on it right now. There's definitely glimmers of a formula that works. I love Sky in the ring and feel he benefits from a mouthpiece, and if Lambert is intentionally riffing on you-know-who then it is absolutely on brand for him to be a massive hypocrite.
I'd mostly prefer Lambert skew closer to "grumpy old man who prefers no-nonsense MMA and old school rasslin'" side of his gimmick and ease up on the boomer internet troll shtick. I'm not offended by it, but conversations like that are all over social media on a daily basis. It's low hanging fruit and too exhausting and repetitive to be fun in a pro wrestling context. Get away from that, focus more on the wrestling side of things and I think the gimmick has legs.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 8, 2021 22:47:26 GMT -5
The hell is this take? Men of the Year aren't even being PUSHED. They're a midcard act. And the apathy for Scorpio Sky felt here is not something I see in other subsections of the internet or even heard when he wrestles. He's a perfectly solid in ring hand. To call him a jabronie is really a stretch. There is no natural chemistry between them, The North worked because Ethans arrogance and Josh seriousness could mesh well together. Would rather have Janela instead at least he could get heat. Janela wouldn't be a bad addition to the group but I disagree about the chemistry. I think they've done fine together. Comparing them to the North makes them automatically lose imo. The North were one of the top tag teams in ALL of wrestling. This act is currently a middle tier act.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 8, 2021 22:48:50 GMT -5
Yeh lambert is interesting. Man of the year aew not,trying to get Sky over is nor gonna happen TK. Khan has the same stubborness of Gedo, pushing jabronies who have no business getting pushed only because they are friend with the Elite tbh Honestly I think that only applies to Sky, overall Khan is good about who works and not. But he just wont give up on making Sky a thing.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 8, 2021 22:51:51 GMT -5
Khan has the same stubborness of Gedo, pushing jabronies who have no business getting pushed only because they are friend with the Elite tbh Honestly I think that only applies to Sky, overall Khan is good about who works and not. But he just wont give up on making Sky a thing. Sky's still not like a HUGE thing though. He's been used mainly as a midcard talent outside of winning the tag titles.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 8, 2021 22:53:12 GMT -5
Honestly I think that only applies to Sky, overall Khan is good about who works and not. But he just wont give up on making Sky a thing. Sky's still not like a HUGE thing though. He's been used mainly as a midcard talent outside of winning the tag titles. And that is still too high of a position for him when there is much more charismatic talent on dark that would be better on that spot IMO. Sky is very likely the least interesting person on Dynamite as a whole
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 22:57:57 GMT -5
I think if Team Tazz turned on Tazz and joined Lambert it would work.
I thought the men of the year were doing great on their own. Page is in the top 5% of promos in the company and Sky does alright for himself. Adding Lambert to them adds nothing. This isn’t Tom Lawlor there’s really no reason for these guys to be paired up.
Now that the team Tazz feud is hopefully over maybe Brian Cage is Archers second and they can wreck fools.
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Post by Heeltown, USA on Sept 8, 2021 22:59:41 GMT -5
Lambert's gonna get his ass kicked. Probably by Archer. So I'm ok with it. I get his promos aren't gonna jive with some people because he's playing off of those types of wrestling critics... but I think him talking for Men of the Year who value themselves as the best wrestlers on the roster isn't the worst idea We'll see how long it lasts. The problem like the first guy said is that Lambert is a hypocrite who's hiding behind two of the exact kind of wrestlers he is criticizing so much. It's impossible to take him seriously because he doesn't have any 'big strong man type' goons backing him up. Or he is hyping up Skye and Page as the big strong man type Almost like what a heel mouthpiece tries to accomplish
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Sept 8, 2021 22:59:45 GMT -5
When he said:
Am I the only one that thought, oh word R-Truths invading?!
Man also had a point about Judas to be fair...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 23:08:45 GMT -5
Khan has the same stubborness of Gedo, pushing jabronies who have no business getting pushed only because they are friend with the Elite tbh Honestly I think that only applies to Sky, overall Khan is good about who works and not. But he just wont give up on making Sky a thing. Scorpio Sky hatred is abnormally prominent on FAN. He’s reasonably well-liked other places, from what I’ve seen. I think his current midcard tag team role is perfect for him.
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Post by sportatorium on Sept 8, 2021 23:09:06 GMT -5
Lambert is the kind of guy who can probably get real heat, but without an actual foil- it falls flat. He's really targeting the audience in his promos, but his guys don't really do anything, so the promos kinda go nowhere. Give him Hager as a bodyguard/heavy & have Sky & Page beat some people up.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 8, 2021 23:14:49 GMT -5
Honestly I think that only applies to Sky, overall Khan is good about who works and not. But he just wont give up on making Sky a thing. Scorpio Sky hatred is abnormally prominent on FAN. He’s reasonably well-liked other places, from what I’ve seen. I think his current Midgard tag team role is perfect for him. I know you meant Mid Card but now I cant help but think that a Tag team Division called Midgard would be bad ass
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