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Post by Duke Cameron on Jun 11, 2023 15:36:36 GMT -5
I was already on the fence as to if I was going to get Reload considering I already own multiple versions of the game and them recasting the entire game is pretty much a dealbreaker for me. I don’t see the need for a entire recast as all the voice actors from the original are still active and reprised these roles as recently as the dancing game and only one of them has had any controversy surrounding them. Not as prominently but Karen Strassman's kind of a dumbass in her own right. Karen Strassman (Aigis) has had her own weirdness, too. Though she's "just" an anti-vaxxer as opposed to being a sexual predator like Creepy Vic. Also did some pushing NFT shit. I had a nice autograph experience with Karen, so I have have no opinion on her. But still, that’s a reason to recast literally everyone else too?
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 11, 2023 15:40:59 GMT -5
Not as prominently but Karen Strassman's kind of a dumbass in her own right. Also did some pushing NFT shit. I had a nice autograph experience with Karen, so I have have no opinion on her. But still, that’s a reason to recast literally everyone else too? No, just kind of providing information. I imagine the main reason for the recasting is similar to FF7 Remake, just wanting to give this new take on the source material its own flavor.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 11, 2023 15:56:02 GMT -5
Honestly, this is a bigger potential deal breaker than voice actors. This is genuinely absurd. It is kind of amazingly dumb how all these years the big problem with Persona 3's been that there isn't really a definitive way to play it, and in doing the remake they decided, "F*** it, there's STILL no definitive way to play it!" instead of actually addressing that. Totally expect them to release Persona 3 Reload FES or some shit. Honestly I think P5 Royal being so successful in hindsight is a curse, because it showed Atlus their bullshit business model still works. Because immediately when I heard the rumor Reload was just vanilla P3 content, I thought to myself they were gonna re-release it later with either The Answer, FeMC, or both. That’s just the Persona business model now, it’s honestly punishing anyone who cares enough about the series to buy a new release immediately rather than just wait a couple years for the better version.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 11, 2023 15:58:58 GMT -5
Two of the voice actors have had controversy around them actually. Naturally Vic, but Aigis’ Karen Strassman is also a whole piece of work herself. So that’s two roles needing to be recast cause of voice actor baggage, and other characters like Fuuka have already been recast before. The original voice actor for Fuuka (Whose identity still hasn’t been revealed) was replaced by Wendee Lee for all the spin-offs, and there’s been no reason to replace Wendee Lee, Grant George, Tara Platt, Liam O'Brien or Yuri Lowenthal ever since. Why start now? Many of those voice actors, particularly Tara, Liam, and ESPECIALLY Yuri, have considerably risen in status since the last time they played their P3 characters, they are extremely likely too expensive for Atlus’ tastes.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 11, 2023 16:07:24 GMT -5
The original voice actor for Fuuka (Whose identity still hasn’t been revealed) was replaced by Wendee Lee for all the spin-offs, and there’s been no reason to replace Wendee Lee, Grant George, Tara Platt, Liam O'Brien or Yuri Lowenthal ever since. Why start now? Many of those voice actors, particularly Tara, Liam, and ESPECIALLY Yuri, have considerably risen in status since the last time they played their P3 characters, they are extremely likely too expensive for Atlus’ tastes. Ehhhh, I'd say they could probably still get them. They've been in stuff in recent years like Guilty Gear and Rune Factory that's nowhere near Persona's level of popularity.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 11, 2023 16:09:24 GMT -5
Many of those voice actors, particularly Tara, Liam, and ESPECIALLY Yuri, have considerably risen in status since the last time they played their P3 characters, they are extremely likely too expensive for Atlus’ tastes. Ehhhh, I'd say they could probably still get them. They've been in stuff in recent years like Guilty Gear and Rune Factory that's nowhere near Persona's level of popularity. True but also consider this, Atlus is cheap. Look at the P3P port job. Hilariously cheap effort.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 11, 2023 16:18:35 GMT -5
Oh my god. I just learned the producer for P3 Reload is Ryota Niitsuma. That’s the same producer for Marvel vs Capcom 3 who infamously released the enhanced version, Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3, in the same god damned year! Only months apart! Oh dear…
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 11, 2023 16:22:02 GMT -5
Oh my god. I just learned the producer for P3 Reload is Ryota Niitsuma. That’s the same producer for Marvel vs Capcom 3 who infamously released the enhanced version, Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3, in the same god damned year! Only months apart! Oh dear… I can't wait for Persona 4 Infinite when they tell us Kanji is just a function and Yu having Take-Mikazuchi is the same thing.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jun 11, 2023 17:08:29 GMT -5
The original voice actor for Fuuka (Whose identity still hasn’t been revealed) was replaced by Wendee Lee for all the spin-offs, and there’s been no reason to replace Wendee Lee, Grant George, Tara Platt, Liam O'Brien or Yuri Lowenthal ever since. Why start now? Many of those voice actors, particularly Tara, Liam, and ESPECIALLY Yuri, have considerably risen in status since the last time they played their P3 characters, they are extremely likely too expensive for Atlus’ tastes. They all came back for the Persona 3 dancing game and that was only 5 years ago.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 11, 2023 17:12:19 GMT -5
Many of those voice actors, particularly Tara, Liam, and ESPECIALLY Yuri, have considerably risen in status since the last time they played their P3 characters, they are extremely likely too expensive for Atlus’ tastes. They all came back for the Persona 3 dancing game and that was only 5 years ago. Yes and in that span things like Critical Role have taken off, Yuri became Spider-Man, etc.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 11, 2023 17:12:53 GMT -5
Very cool but ReFantasy is the one i'm really excited for.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jun 11, 2023 17:20:25 GMT -5
They all came back for the Persona 3 dancing game and that was only 5 years ago. Yes and in that span things like Critical Role have taken off, Yuri became Spider-Man, etc. Yuri and the rest had already been as high profile as they are now by the time P3 Dancing came out.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 11, 2023 17:21:12 GMT -5
Yes and in that span things like Critical Role have taken off, Yuri became Spider-Man, etc. Yuri and the rest had already been high profile by the time P3 Dancing came out. And now they are even more high profile.
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Post by eJm on Jun 11, 2023 17:23:09 GMT -5
Yuri and the rest had already been high profile by the time P3 Dancing came out. And now they are even more high profile. As you said, Atlus are cheap. Easy example; not making a P3 remake with all the content you’d expect to make it the definitive game from the offset.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 11, 2023 17:24:33 GMT -5
I do kind of wonder how accurate the, "We won't have anything from FES," thing actually is. Because other than The Answer, pretty much everything FES added is so standardized I can't really see them not having it. Like, cannot see them trying to ship this game without itemization or a hard mode.
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Post by eJm on Jun 11, 2023 17:27:00 GMT -5
Very cool but ReFantasy is the one i'm really excited for. A more evolved Persona game from the developers of Catherine? Sounds like something I’d be happy to give a shot.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 11, 2023 17:29:27 GMT -5
I do kind of wonder how accurate the, "We won't have anything from FES," thing actually is. Because other than The Answer, pretty much everything FES added is so standardized I can't really see them not having it. Like, cannot see them trying to ship this game without itemization or a hard mode. There is also the question of the new side episodes with characters in this game. It is entirely possible they roll all the non-The Answer content from FES into the game via these episodes.
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Post by eJm on Jun 11, 2023 17:29:44 GMT -5
I do kind of wonder how accurate the, "We won't have anything from FES," thing actually is. Because other than The Answer, pretty much everything FES added is so standardized I can't really see them not having it. Like, cannot see them trying to ship this game without itemization or a hard mode. It should be said, though, Niitsuma threw around the word “new” a lot, as in new scenes, new dialogue, new features so it could be a way of putting that stuff in a different way and making things more streamlined or, more likely, just a way of finding a different way to put that stuff in future releases.
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Post by Fundertaker on Jun 11, 2023 18:04:11 GMT -5
I do kind of wonder how accurate the, "We won't have anything from FES," thing actually is. Because other than The Answer, pretty much everything FES added is so standardized I can't really see them not having it. Like, cannot see them trying to ship this game without itemization or a hard mode. It should be said, though, Niitsuma threw around the word “new” a lot, as in new scenes, new dialogue, new features so it could be a way of putting that stuff in a different way and making things more streamlined or, more likely, just a way of finding a different way to put that stuff in future releases. Maybe they remade the ending so that The Answer becomes obsolete/not needed/gets an abridged version in a cutscene. And then milk the players with ALL NEW CONTENT that we are not aware of.
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Post by eJm on Jun 11, 2023 18:06:59 GMT -5
It should be said, though, Niitsuma threw around the word “new” a lot, as in new scenes, new dialogue, new features so it could be a way of putting that stuff in a different way and making things more streamlined or, more likely, just a way of finding a different way to put that stuff in future releases. Maybe they remade the ending so that The Answer becomes obsolete/not needed/gets an abridged version in a cutscene. And then milk the players with ALL NEW CONTENT that we are not aware of. That seems likely to be the case. Like, I sort of feel like with how long this thing has been in planning/rumored development, I’d be surprised this was the first game to not get a “Royal” but DLC packs to lump on top to make convenient.
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