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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 11, 2023 18:13:46 GMT -5
If nothing else I do have to imagine they're going to take out a lot of more annoying aspects of 3, like the stamina and the broken social links. They seemed to immediately recognize those were terrible ideas.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 11, 2023 18:41:15 GMT -5
If nothing else I do have to imagine they're going to take out a lot of more annoying aspects of 3, like the stamina and the broken social links. They seemed to immediately recognize those were terrible ideas. Gameplay-wise, I'm expecting a lot of QoL improvements to put P3 at the same standard as P4 and 5. The stamina system is way more tolerable in P3P compared to the original and FES, but I'd still like it gone entirely.
On that note, I hope Shuffle Time is like P4's where you could just pick what you wanted instead of relying on a three card monty-ish system.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 11, 2023 23:32:22 GMT -5
Very cool but ReFantasy is the one i'm really excited for. A more evolved Persona game from the developers of Catherine? Sounds like something I’d be happy to give a shot. Hopefully without the Hashino's bigoted baggage Catherine had. As much as I like the Persona games (and honestly, that series has a lot of its own baggage, especially in P4), I really didn't like Catherine for a number of reasons so I'm skeptical about ReFantasy or really anything Hashino does outside of the MegaTen franchise.
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Post by eJm on Jun 12, 2023 3:24:05 GMT -5
A more evolved Persona game from the developers of Catherine? Sounds like something I’d be happy to give a shot. Hopefully without the Hashino's bigoted baggage Catherine had. As much as I like the Persona games (and honestly, that series has a lot of its own baggage, especially in P4), I really didn't like Catherine for a number of reasons so I'm skeptical about ReFantasy or really anything Hashino does outside of the MegaTen franchise. All of that is completely fair and understandable. I probably like Catherine more than you do but there is an Elephant so big, it probably has a crappy clickbaity YouTube account.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 12, 2023 3:30:11 GMT -5
Catherine leaves me feeling so conflicted on that. On one hand there is a ton of yikesy stuff around Erica as a character, especially with the Full Body thing, but on the other she still managed to be probably my favorite character in the game.
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Post by Raskovnik on Jun 12, 2023 3:45:06 GMT -5
My problem with Catherine is that it simply wasn't fun to play, but I'd be fine with a Persona-esque games with actual adults who have actual adult problems, that'd be a nice change of pace.
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Post by eJm on Jun 12, 2023 4:11:45 GMT -5
Catherine leaves me feeling so conflicted on that. On one hand there is a ton of yikesy stuff around Erica as a character, especially with the Full Body thing, but on the other she still managed to be probably my favorite character in the game. She's a character very well written besides the important part that should be better written. She's an enigma wrapped in bigotry, whether intended or not. My problem with Catherine is that it simply wasn't fun to play, but I'd be fine with a Persona-esque games with actual adults who have actual adult problems, that'd be a nice change of pace. The last sentence is just a good excuse to remind people this is coming out at the end of this year.
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Post by eJm on Jun 12, 2023 5:51:42 GMT -5
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Post by Cyno on Jun 12, 2023 13:25:13 GMT -5
Catherine leaves me feeling so conflicted on that. On one hand there is a ton of yikesy stuff around Erica as a character, especially with the Full Body thing, but on the other she still managed to be probably my favorite character in the game. She's a character very well written besides the important part that should be better written. She's an enigma wrapped in bigotry, whether intended or not. My problem with Catherine is that it simply wasn't fun to play, but I'd be fine with a Persona-esque games with actual adults who have actual adult problems, that'd be a nice change of pace. The last sentence is just a good excuse to remind people this is coming out at the end of this year. To Atlus USA's and EU's credit, they mitigated a lot of the outright worst shit the original JP text surrounding Erica. Like outright deadnaming her in parentheses in her dialogue boxes.
Still, between her and Rin (who isn't trans, but a particularly feminine male crossdresser) in Full Body, there is so much gay and trans panic subtext (and in some cases supertext) in that game. And some really gross ideas about women in general. Though I guess I should expect that from Hashino, who admitted he's never been friends with a woman before when asked why pretty much all the female s. link in P3 ended in romance only.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 12, 2023 13:36:18 GMT -5
She's a character very well written besides the important part that should be better written. She's an enigma wrapped in bigotry, whether intended or not. The last sentence is just a good excuse to remind people this is coming out at the end of this year. To Atlus USA's and EU's credit, they mitigated a lot of the outright worst shit the original JP text surrounding Erica. Like outright deadnaming her in parentheses in her dialogue boxes.
Still, between her and Rin (who isn't trans, but a particularly feminine male crossdresser) in Full Body, there is so much gay and trans panic subtext (and in some cases supertext) in that game. And some really gross ideas about women in general. Though I guess I should expect that from Hashino, who admitted he's never been friends with a woman before when asked why pretty much all the female s. link in P3 ended in romance only.
For that matter there's how there's that completely pointless pair of scenes of a couple of stereotypical gay guys comedically sexually harassing and possibly assaulting Ryuji that they wanted to rework in the translation but only actually got permission to change in Royal after what from the sounds of it was heavy begging and pleading. Because those scenes are suuuuper necessary I guess.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jun 12, 2023 15:35:40 GMT -5
To Atlus USA's and EU's credit, they mitigated a lot of the outright worst shit the original JP text surrounding Erica. Like outright deadnaming her in parentheses in her dialogue boxes.
Still, between her and Rin (who isn't trans, but a particularly feminine male crossdresser) in Full Body, there is so much gay and trans panic subtext (and in some cases supertext) in that game. And some really gross ideas about women in general. Though I guess I should expect that from Hashino, who admitted he's never been friends with a woman before when asked why pretty much all the female s. link in P3 ended in romance only.
For that matter there's how there's that completely pointless pair of scenes of a couple of stereotypical gay guys comedically sexually harassing and possibly assaulting Ryuji that they wanted to rework in the translation but only actually got permission to change in Royal after what from the sounds of it was heavy begging and pleading. Because those scenes are suuuuper necessary I guess. Those Ryuji scenes were super frigging cringe. So damn juvenile
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Post by eJm on Jun 12, 2023 16:10:12 GMT -5
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 12, 2023 16:15:28 GMT -5
I do feel like there is a pretty big world of difference between not including FES content at all and not including The Answer. Really the split on FES vs. Portable to me's always come more down to actual cutscenes vs. controlling party members anyway and this version will at least have both of those.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 12, 2023 17:52:22 GMT -5
Yeah, I figured when they said "No FES Content," I was 99% sure they just meant The Answer and not all the little things added to The Journey.
I'm also expecting the social link system to be more like P4 and P5's (and P3P's I guess).
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 13, 2023 0:17:13 GMT -5
This game keeps leaking! Today IGN accidentally leaked some additional gameplay footage. Nothing major, just moving about the game’s world. But still!
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Post by eJm on Jun 13, 2023 3:25:04 GMT -5
This game keeps leaking! Today IGN accidentally leaked some additional gameplay footage. Nothing major, just moving about the game’s world. But still! There is an irony of Atlus being so coy about a Persona 3 remake for literal years along with not having much come out during the entire run of Persona news and then having it all get consistently leaked out in a matter of days.
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Post by eJm on Jun 14, 2023 1:51:10 GMT -5
…yay?
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 15, 2023 8:34:57 GMT -5
They've confirmed PS4, PS5, and Steam versions of Reload, but not the Switch one. Can't imagine they're not doing it, especially given the retailer leak from before, so probably will announce that in the next Direct or whatever.
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Post by eJm on Jun 17, 2023 12:36:29 GMT -5
They've confirmed PS4, PS5, and Steam versions of Reload, but not the Switch one. Can't imagine they're not doing it, especially given the retailer leak from before, so probably will announce that in the next Direct or whatever. PlayAsia, the Japanese video game import online store, has the Switch version up on their website and they said it wasn’t an error when asked so yeah, that’s the likely scenario. When it rains…
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 19, 2023 9:08:46 GMT -5
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