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Post by darbus alan on Jun 15, 2024 13:47:45 GMT -5
Tartarus grinding can get really monotonous in the original P3. At least they addressed this in later games as P4 has more visual and music variety in its TV world dungeons. And P5 has the handcrafted palaces along with the procedurally generated levels of Mementos. The other part of the original P3 I don't like is mandatory AI control of your other party members. At least P3P and Reload added options for manual control. No manual control caused me to drop the game altogether. I've heard the argument that it's better because it makes the game harder, but I never felt it did. P3 onwards are all fairly easy anyway, an even if it did make it harder at times, it was only because the AI occasionally threw away all logic. To me, all it meant was more time spent not making decisions. Yeah, MegaTen games like the SMT and Digital Devil Saga games had no problems being incredibly difficult while manually controlling all your party members. Getting a game over because the Mitsuru AI cast Marin Karin isn't legitimate challenge but cheap BS.
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Post by Kalmia on Jun 15, 2024 13:58:20 GMT -5
Yeah, Tartarus is still a bit of a chore. I'm very glad that 4 and 5 went for more interesting dungeons. I thought the palaces in 5 were all really interesting and fun. Mementos was a little samey at times but not as bad as Tartarus.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jun 15, 2024 14:13:11 GMT -5
Yeah, Tartarus is still a bit of a chore. I'm very glad that 4 and 5 went for more interesting dungeons. I thought the palaces in 5 were all really interesting and fun. Mementos was a little samey at times but not as bad as Tartarus. Mementos got a little trippy at times with both the seasonal effects and the occasional random effects. I found the darkened and trap levels highly annoying, however. Then again, they can’t all be the straight line levels (which are great for grinding once you get Ryuji’s rush attack ability, especially in P5R).
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 15, 2024 16:14:33 GMT -5
The place where I hit a wall on Reload was during the trip to Tartarus after the first real full moon, just because grinding money in this game is such an awful luck-based slog. No clue why on earth they kept that stupid random drawing mechanic.
That said I might've tolerated it if the game were hooking me otherwise but at least in the early goings P3 basically just doesn't actually have a plot.
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Post by darbus alan on Jun 15, 2024 16:22:23 GMT -5
Another area where they improved in P4 and P5 was much better plot hooks. You had the murder mystery element and Yukiko being the proverbial princess in the castle for 4. And then you had a really despicable villain like Kamoshida to drive the story in 5. With 3, it's just the shadows and climbing Tartarus at first.
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Post by Kalmia on Jun 15, 2024 18:24:14 GMT -5
P4 absolutely hits the ground running with the main story. I think that out of the core stories, P4 has the best one. The murders and the midnight channel were a really good scenario, IMO.
The Dark Hour in P3 was a great idea and setting but yeah, it does take a while for the actual story to kick in. P5 takes its time as well but has interesting palaces while the parts are moving into place.
P4 will always have a soft spot in my heart because for the first 18 months that I lived in Japan, I lived in a countryside town just like it.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jun 17, 2024 11:44:58 GMT -5
Another area where they improved in P4 and P5 was much better plot hooks. You had the murder mystery element and Yukiko being the proverbial princess in the castle for 4. And then you had a really despicable villain like Kamoshida to drive the story in 5. With 3, it's just the shadows and climbing Tartarus at first. Honestly, since you deal with Kamoshida so early in the game I kinda forgot about him, especially since in my first playthrough I rocketed through Ann’s confidant chain (so much so that I was already dating her before Makoto was properly introduced).
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 20, 2024 18:29:37 GMT -5
So as of early Friday morning, I have officially Platinum’d Persona 5 Royal. I picked up the dang Jack Frost doll from the crane machine and it earned me my stripes.
All of this means I can finally put Persona 5 as a whole behind me. Got me through a lot and Scramble is genuinely one of my favourite spin offs ever in a way I wouldn’t have predicted. A shame Atlus didn’t pass it off to another developer to make a game based on it.
*looks at Tactica, slowly pushes it away out of sight*
Yeah, big shame, that.
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Post by darbus alan on Jun 20, 2024 18:59:19 GMT -5
So as of early Friday morning, I have officially Platinum’d Persona 5 Royal. I picked up the dang Jack Frost doll from the crane machine and it earned me my stripes. All of this means I can finally put Persona 5 as a whole behind me. Got me through a lot and Scramble is genuinely one of my favourite spin offs ever in a way I wouldn’t have predicted. A shame Atlus didn’t pass it off to another developer to make a game based on it. *looks at Tactica, slowly pushes it away out of sight* Yeah, big shame, that. I think I'm just missing the Reaper fight as far as getting platinum goes.
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Post by Kalmia on Jun 20, 2024 20:34:58 GMT -5
So as of early Friday morning, I have officially Platinum’d Persona 5 Royal. I picked up the dang Jack Frost doll from the crane machine and it earned me my stripes. All of this means I can finally put Persona 5 as a whole behind me. Got me through a lot and Scramble is genuinely one of my favourite spin offs ever in a way I wouldn’t have predicted. A shame Atlus didn’t pass it off to another developer to make a game based on it. *looks at Tactica, slowly pushes it away out of sight* Yeah, big shame, that. I platinumed Royal and Strikers but only managed 52% on the original P5, hahaha
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Post by darbus alan on Jul 28, 2024 14:02:24 GMT -5
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 28, 2024 14:17:55 GMT -5
Everything I see about X seems wild so I’m keen to see how it is.
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Post by darbus alan on Jul 28, 2024 14:55:07 GMT -5
Everything I see about X seems wild so I’m keen to see how it is. I just hope the gacha system is a lot more like modern Chinese gacha games (Hoyo games, Wuthering Waves) with a generous amount of freebies and making lesser rarity and even freebie characters useful, if not meta. As opposed to the Japanese gacha mentality where there's a lot more power creep and naked greed involved. Not that the Hoyoverse concept isn't exploitative (*cough*genshin weapon banners*cough*), but I think they're more fair and f2p friendly compared to their Japanese counterparts.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 28, 2024 15:16:33 GMT -5
Everything I see about X seems wild so I’m keen to see how it is. I just hope the gacha system is a lot more like modern Chinese gacha games (Hoyo games, Wuthering Waves) with a generous amount of freebies and making lesser rarity and even freebie characters useful, if not meta. As opposed to the Japanese gacha mentality where there's a lot more power creep and naked greed involved. Not that the Hoyoverse concept isn't exploitative (*cough*genshin weapon banners*cough*), but I think they're more fair and f2p friendly compared to their Japanese counterparts. Very much the same, yeah.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 20, 2024 23:35:16 GMT -5
So turns out the DLC has a surprise bonus boss! {Spoiler}Of course it's Joker, how could it possibly be anything but.
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Post by darbus alan on Aug 20, 2024 23:51:32 GMT -5
Not surprised, since it isn't exactly uncharted territory for Persona. Or MegaTen in general. {Spoiler}Persona 5 Royal had Makoto (Yuki) and Yu as bonus boss fights, too. And of course, the Demi-Fiend and his trusty Pixie have been superbosses in their fair share of SMT games.
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