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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on May 18, 2022 9:14:54 GMT -5
I still think there's a chance we end up with something wacky like Tyson Fury vs. Drew McIntyre in the main event of this show. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 18, 2022 9:18:02 GMT -5
I still think there's a chance we end up with something wacky like Tyson Fury vs. Drew McIntyre in the main event of this show. Maybe I'm wrong. If you want to build Drew up as a top face again, you absolutely, positively do not pair him up with the most popular figure in boxing and bonafide box office draw Tyson Fury and expect people to boo him in the UK. That would be extremely counter productive. So that means it’ll happen.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on May 18, 2022 9:56:15 GMT -5
I still think there's a chance we end up with something wacky like Tyson Fury vs. Drew McIntyre in the main event of this show. Maybe I'm wrong. If you want to build Drew up as a top face again, you absolutely, positively do not pair him up with the most popular figure in boxing and bonafide box office draw Tyson Fury and expect people to boo him in the UK. That would be extremely counter productive. So that means it’ll happen. As popular as Fury is he’s a highly controversial figure who can be treated like a God one night then booed out the building the next depending on how he acts and what he says. If they wanted him to be an egomaniacal heel I don’t doubt he would get booed. This will be 70,000 wrestling fans I don’t think it will be filled with casuals just there to see the celebrity. I think they would cheer the popular main event wrestlers over him if he was acting like a heel. And remember the entire build for this show will take place in front of US crowds who didn’t exactly care about him much last time he worked a program with Braun even after his amazing fight with Wilder. I still think it’s not a match you even think about doing here though. Barring injury to either guy, it would be crazy to me to have anything other than Roman v Drew with Drew getting the big win. If Fury is on the show he could beat Sami Zayn who has already proven he can work with non-wrestlers and make it entertaining. Kevin Owens or Miz could work too. If they don’t think he’s capable of working an actual decent length match they could even have him like knock Omos out in a quick fight.
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Post by polarbearpete on May 18, 2022 10:06:13 GMT -5
If you want to build Drew up as a top face again, you absolutely, positively do not pair him up with the most popular figure in boxing and bonafide box office draw Tyson Fury and expect people to boo him in the UK. That would be extremely counter productive. So that means it’ll happen. As popular as Fury is he’s a highly controversial figure who can be treated like a God one night then booed out the building the next depending on how he acts and what he says. If they wanted him to be an egomaniacal heel I don’t doubt he would get booed. This will be 70,000 wrestling fans I don’t think it will be filled with casuals just there to see the celebrity. I think they would cheer the popular main event wrestlers over him if he was acting like a heel. And remember the entire build for this show will take place in front of US crowds who didn’t exactly care about him much last time he worked a program with Braun even after his amazing fight with Wilder. I still think it’s not a match you even think about doing here though. Barring injury to either guy, it would be crazy to me to have anything other than Roman v Drew with Drew getting the big win. If Fury is on the show he could beat Sami Zayn who has already proven he can work with non-wrestlers and make it entertaining. Kevin Owens or Miz could work too. If they don’t think he’s capable of working an actual decent length match they could even have him like knock Omos out in a quick fight. Drew vs. Roman main with Fury against Owens or Zayn in the undercard is the way to go.
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Post by Kalmia on May 18, 2022 10:08:44 GMT -5
£225 for tickets in the top tier? They are kidding with those prices, right? With the number of pre-registrations, I expected the presale to sell out pretty quickly but now I know why it hasn't.
I hope everyone who goes has a really, really awesome time and that WWE puts on the best quality show they can.
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Post by welshpenguin on May 18, 2022 10:35:35 GMT -5
If I go to the show, I hope Roman isn’t dethroned by Drew, not really a fan of current Drew & I wanna see my Tribal Chief victorious! I think I’m the only one who feels this way though 😊 I think it would probably really suck for a lot of UK fans if the UK guy gets his arse kicked, especially given how much people are paying to be there, I would very very much hope they'd try to send people home happy, it'd be a serious kick in the nuts if someone paid "buying a car" money to have a good time only to leave on a downer because of some stupid poorly thought-out misery booking... ...but I still respect your preference, if you like Roman and you wanna see him win, that's cool too, I just don't think it's Drew necessarily the right time or place for it, y'know? Drew can win a match if he must, even the main event, just not against Roman 😋
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Post by ssdrivin on May 18, 2022 10:59:16 GMT -5
I think it would probably really suck for a lot of UK fans if the UK guy gets his arse kicked, especially given how much people are paying to be there, I would very very much hope they'd try to send people home happy, it'd be a serious kick in the nuts if someone paid "buying a car" money to have a good time only to leave on a downer because of some stupid poorly thought-out misery booking... ...but I still respect your preference, if you like Roman and you wanna see him win, that's cool too, I just don't think it's Drew necessarily the right time or place for it, y'know? Drew can win a match if he must, even the main event, just not against Roman 😋 If WWE agree with you on Roman and think he's still got to be the top dog, as it were, then I think the only reasonable solution is just have Drew demolish someone else from the top of the card instead. That way Roman stays strong (and Roman fans are happy), Drew stays strong (he wins on his home turf, most UK fans are happy), and all is well. It's not a title win, sure, but as long as it's a decent match it's still better than Drew losing to Roman on UK soil at the biggest event in forever. I don't entirely trust WWE to get that right, so there's always a chance Drew might lose to Roman on the day, but I think that'd be super dumb given the context of the event and I really really hope they don't do that. For those of us who like Drew and would be happy to see him beat Roman on UK soil, Drew winning the title would be the best option, but I do see that fans like yourself, and WWE, might not be looking for that, so if I were to try to accommodate all of those interests, I'd just have Drew beat... I dunno, Lesnar or someone, seeing as they're all up there in the title picture together, and beating each other makes sense. It would show that Drew is there with the best of them, maybe #2 after Roman, with Lesnar as #3. I don't know how you'd handle face vs face, but it's probably less complicated than trying to figure out whether Roman should lose or not.
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Post by Bo Rida on May 18, 2022 15:26:16 GMT -5
THE SUPERFAN EVENT DAY EXPERIENCE Allowed in Can see ring Merch stand, you've already bought two shirts Nice printed Ticket Poster Customer service phone number
Ugh I hate upselling a whole bunch of nothing. Even if overpriced some won't mind paying for meet and greets and hotels etc but this is next to nothing. At least include a chair, exclusive t-shirt or something. WWE aren't alone in that, holiday companies are really bad, or videogame fancy editions that are just lowgrade dlc.
You could probably just about go to America or Japan and watch a show from a decent promotion (including wwe) for the same price.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 17:53:40 GMT -5
UK suffering an inflation crisis now with prices up 9% (US 8%, Germany 7%, Japan 1.2% for comparison) it will surely have an effect on sales if tickets are overpriced.
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Post by spagett on May 19, 2022 4:28:41 GMT -5
I have zero interest in going anyway, but even if I did want to go those prices would have stopped any thought of that.
Astonishingly overpriced, especially in the current climate. They'll struggle to sell out if they don't lower the prices.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 19, 2022 4:31:28 GMT -5
Yeah, like, I can get why they're priced as they are but I also can't help but think it wouldn't make much of a dent if they were a bit lower, maybe a family friendly price and such? The fact it's not a sellout during the mentioned inflation crisis isn't a coincidence.
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Post by spagett on May 19, 2022 4:42:02 GMT -5
Yeah, like, I can get why they're priced as they are but I also can't help but think it wouldn't make much of a dent if they were a bit lower, maybe a family friendly price and such? The fact it's not a sellout during the mentioned inflation crisis isn't a coincidence. Yeah more normal pricing and this would have sold out instantly. The UK has wanted a big time wrestling event here for decades. The fact it hasn't close to sold out yet is due to the pricing in my opinion.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 19, 2022 4:46:19 GMT -5
Yeah, like, I can get why they're priced as they are but I also can't help but think it wouldn't make much of a dent if they were a bit lower, maybe a family friendly price and such? The fact it's not a sellout during the mentioned inflation crisis isn't a coincidence. Yeah more normal pricing and this would have sold out instantly. The UK has wanted a big time wrestling event here for decades. The fact it hasn't close to sold out yet is due to the pricing in my opinion. Heck, if this show happened last year (if travel restrictions were eased sooner, obviously) we wouldn't be having this conversation because the show'd be sold out by now.
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Post by ssdrivin on May 19, 2022 4:53:12 GMT -5
Yeah, like, I can get why they're priced as they are but I also can't help but think it wouldn't make much of a dent if they were a bit lower, maybe a family friendly price and such? The fact it's not a sellout during the mentioned inflation crisis isn't a coincidence. I kinda get it, but then I also kinda don't. People are rightly pointing out that it could be as cheap, or cheaper, to actually fly to WrestleMania. Other people are pointing out nosebleed seats being offered for hundreds of pounds. Sure, it's a premium event, a stadium show, the first in 30 years in the UK, a huge (potentially even "once in a lifetime") thing that people are definitely going to want to visit. It's positioned as a "must-see" event with pricing to match, I get that - like WrestleMania, that's going to command (somewhat) higher prices, and they have to make it worth their while to fly over here, set everything up, and so on. But why so exclusive? They do that for RAW and Smackdown shows over here with much lower ticket prices. Why WrestleMania (or worse) rates for what's very likely to be about as important to ongoing angles as a Saudi show? We don't even have a card, they could make the main event The Miz vs Dolph Ziggler for all we know. This ain't Mania, it's not Rumble, or SummerSlam, it's not even Survivor Series. As you mention, people are skint, everyone is skint, the cost of living is currently painful and a lot of the people who might want to be going to this are likely to want to do so as families. I can't help but agree with those on Twitter who are pointing out that it might be a little tasteless to be asking people, right now, to shell out hundreds per ticket (or WrestleMania level premium packages, many of which don't offer great value even if you can afford them), especially for some of the poor seats they're offering for those prices. Ringside? Opposite hard cam? Yeah, alright, fine, but not some random seat way up in the arse end of nowhere with a questionable view, half a mile away from the ring. I'll keep my £40 ticket because that's not bad for an opportunity to get out of the house, go take a weekend somewhere off work, maybe hang out with a few other fans, enjoy the atmosphere of a huge show, but I absolutely see why people are angry. Maybe more cheap tickets will come up with today's partner pre-sales, or tomorrow with public sales, I hope they do, so that more people can enjoy the same. I can't help but think many would've been put off already though, being under the impression that the whole thing is a complete rip-off that costs a minimum of hundreds per seat. I don't think this has been handled well at all. They should've managed peoples' expectations of prices, it should be clearer what it's going to cost to sit where in the stadium, and Ticketmaster really shouldn't be defaulting people to "lol 250 quid mate" out of the gate (I had to explicitly tweak the settings to get my cheap ticket, which isn't a whole lot of fun when you expect that if you take too long to find a seat for the right price they'll all be gone, or that it's presenting you with the cheapest tickets available at that time).
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 19, 2022 4:58:37 GMT -5
The only reason I "get it" is, like you said, this is a big show in a big stadium so they likely want to make their money back but considering all involved (Ticketmaster never lets people down on controversial BS), it's not surprising but now in particular, especially something that's not guaranteed to happen again, just feels like a misfire before the show even happens.
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Post by ssdrivin on May 19, 2022 5:05:34 GMT -5
The only reason I "get it" is, like you said, this is a big show in a big stadium so they likely want to make their money back but considering all involved (Ticketmaster never lets people down on controversial BS), it's not surprising but now in particular, especially something that's not guaranteed to happen again, just feels like a misfire before the show even happens. Something I've seen a handful of people mention, which I don't necessarily agree with on a conspiratorial level but think it has some merit to point out, is that WWE/Ticketmaster might've messed this up to such an extent that the results won't be what WWE expect and so, in the future, they'll be hesitant to run a big show like that here again any time soon, so it could accidentally become a once in a lifetime deal. I don't believe, as some appear to, that WWE's doing that on purpose to justify never coming here again (why would they? money is money, why would you shut out a willing customer base?), but there does seem to be a genuine chance of that happening, not because they were trying to bury themselves, but because they're doing a really bad job of selling it when they could've handled it much better. How likely is it that this is what'll happen? I don't know, but I could see the top brass and shareholders thinking "boy, this sure didn't sell like the hot cakes we thought we were selling, maybe they just aren't worth catering to", in that shareholdery way they do, even if something has gone well, if it hasn't lived up to ludicrous and unrealistic expectations of surpassing the wildest wet dreams of a beancounter, it's somehow a failure. I don't doubt they'll still pack out at least most of, if not all of, the stadium. But I imagine there are some slightly nervous executives worrying about the fact that their "more pre-sales registrations than seats in the venue" hasn't translated into "immediate sellout".
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 19, 2022 5:26:25 GMT -5
The only reason I "get it" is, like you said, this is a big show in a big stadium so they likely want to make their money back but considering all involved (Ticketmaster never lets people down on controversial BS), it's not surprising but now in particular, especially something that's not guaranteed to happen again, just feels like a misfire before the show even happens. Something I've seen a handful of people mention, which I don't necessarily agree with on a conspiratorial level but think it has some merit to point out, is that WWE/Ticketmaster might've messed this up to such an extent that the results won't be what WWE expect and so, in the future, they'll be hesitant to run a big show like that here again any time soon, so it could accidentally become a once in a lifetime deal. I don't believe, as some appear to, that WWE's doing that on purpose to justify never coming here again (why would they? money is money, why would you shut out a willing customer base?), but there does seem to be a genuine chance of that happening, not because they were trying to bury themselves, but because they're doing a really bad job of selling it when they could've handled it much better. How likely is it that this is what'll happen? I don't know, but I could see the top brass and shareholders thinking "boy, this sure didn't sell like the hot cakes we thought we were selling, maybe they just aren't worth catering to", in that shareholdery way they do, even if something has gone well, if it hasn't lived up to ludicrous and unrealistic expectations of surpassing the wildest wet dreams of a beancounter, it's somehow a failure. I don't doubt they'll still pack out at least most of, if not all of, the stadium. But I imagine there are some slightly nervous executives worrying about the fact that their "more pre-sales registrations than seats in the venue" hasn't translated into "immediate sellout". Yeah, I have a hard time believing that personally. I don't think it's in their best interest to cost yourself from a prominent market and deliberately isolating a customer base that saved the company's ass during the lull periods, to the point where you open a developmental brand down there when it would have been easier to just not done the show in the first place. What this is, as a lot of these things are, is rich executives going in a room and deciding this is logical and then being surprised, as rich executives, that it doesn't go quite to plan since those same people don't have a grasp on what's going on with people who aren't rich executives. Happens across all industries. The shareholder stuff is something I do fear, too. It only takes a small group of powerful people (or at the very least, those with stronger shares from banks and the like) to make Vince listen because, well, he's a Wall Street darling even after all these years and would rather keep that reputation going as long as possible.
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Post by ssdrivin on May 19, 2022 5:33:23 GMT -5
BBC Wales journo looking for input from fans in the area with regard to prices. That'll surely be good press, right?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 19, 2022 5:34:42 GMT -5
BBC Wales journo looking for input from fans in the area with regard to prices. That'll surely be good press, right? Yeaaaaah, that's not great. Probably won't be a big deal but if the first thing people are talking about when tickets are out are about how much they are? It's a wave they need to ride a bit.
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Post by ssdrivin on May 19, 2022 5:35:59 GMT -5
BBC Wales journo looking for input from fans in the area with regard to prices. That'll surely be good press, right? Yeaaaaah, that's not great. Probably won't be a big deal but if the first thing people are talking about when tickets are out are about how much they are? It's a wave they need to ride a bit. Yeah, I don't imagine it's going to nuke the attendance, or really even put much of a dent in WWE's PR at the end of the day, but it's not something you really want to be in the news when you're trying to promote an event.
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