Urethra Franklin
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Oct 26, 2021 12:19:20 GMT -5
On today's Wrestling Observer Radio, Dave Meltzer reported that the impetus for a section of the crowd booing ostensible babyfaces MSK during NXT shows was an interview that Nash Carter (then Zachary Wentz) did in 2018 in which he criticized then 13-year-old superfan Izzy taking a chokeslam on an indie show.
The booing in question is being coordinated by Izzy's parents and is made possible by the fact that it's such a small group of people who attend NXT shows with most of them being regulars.
Meltzer also noted that Carter was far from the only person critical of that spot, mentioning that both Lance Storm and Chelsea Green also criticized it.
Anyway, this is dumb as hell.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 26, 2021 12:25:12 GMT -5
The more that time goes on, the clearer it is that WWE recognizing and making Izzy into a thing was an idea that has only brought negative consequences with it
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Oct 26, 2021 12:32:37 GMT -5
Remember when Super Crazy got booed because he said Tye Dye Guy's third cousin shouldn't take bumps without training, so Tye Dye Guy organized a whole mob to boo Super Crazy regardless of his alignment at the time?
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Post by asuka007 on Oct 26, 2021 12:32:55 GMT -5
I saw the spot and it honestly did not look that bad to me.
Personally I just don’t care much for MSK in general. I did not like them much back when they were in Impact even.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 26, 2021 12:38:05 GMT -5
I don't follow NXT and definitely not the Izzy era.
So can someone explain this to me in beginner's language here?
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Oct 26, 2021 12:43:07 GMT -5
I don't follow NXT and definitely not the Izzy era. So can someone explain this to me in beginner's language here? Izzy is/was a fan who went to every NXT taping with a ponytail like Bayley's. Bayley would give her a hug sometimes when she went to the ring. Then whenever someone got any amount of offense on Bayley, Izzy would burst into hysterical tears, like think of the kids when Macho got bit by the snake, that level of tears. So naturally the camera would zoom in on the crying child. So since they knew they could get good reactions out of Izzy, the heels would start taunting her while they got heat on Bayley. Then when Bayley would win matches she'd bring Izzy into the ring. I guess this led Izzy and her family into believing that Izzy was an integral part of the show.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 12:47:01 GMT -5
It's one thing to boo them because they're annoying on screen, but this is one of the dumbest reasons for booing someone that I've heard.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 26, 2021 12:50:46 GMT -5
I don't follow NXT and definitely not the Izzy era. So can someone explain this to me in beginner's language here? Izzy is/was a fan who went to every NXT taping with a ponytail like Bayley's. Bayley would give her a hug sometimes when she went to the ring. Then whenever someone got any amount of offense on Bayley, Izzy would burst into hysterical tears, like think of the kids when Macho got bit by the snake, that level of tears. So naturally the camera would zoom in on the crying child. So since they knew they could get good reactions out of Izzy, the heels would start taunting her while they got heat on Bayley. Then when Bayley would win matches she'd bring Izzy into the ring. I guess this led Izzy and her family into believing that Izzy was an integral part of the show. Wow, talking about going to straight to their heads. I had heard of her, but thought it was an one-off or something. I guess the WWE does have themselves to blame for this one.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Oct 26, 2021 12:51:36 GMT -5
It's dumb for sure that it got to this point but as someone who wasn't too aware of this, I will say their booking hasn't done them any favors. Like this last week, Imperium gets booked as the babyfaces against the Diamond Mine. Seriously, they overcome interference and have a hot tag and everything. And afterwards, MSK attacks them from behind and lays them out. I get why they did it and in their specific feud, they're the babyfaces. But it definitely wasn't the best booking and only lead to more boos than usual.
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Post by Perd on Oct 26, 2021 12:54:21 GMT -5
In response to the booing, MSK didn’t help matters by approaching Izzy and her family and in engaging in what they referee to as a “chokeslam orgy”.
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Post by cornettesracket on Oct 26, 2021 12:55:31 GMT -5
I’ve no issue with Izzy but I think as a rule 13 year old kids shouldn’t be taking a choke slam in a wresting ring because at 13 they are still developing their bone structure. I remember when I went to secondary school at 13 and there was a small weights room next to the sports hall and there was a sign in bold letters than said the equipment was for people over a certain age. I mean surely safety is no 1 here.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 12:56:22 GMT -5
I’ve no issue with Izzy but I think as a rule 13 year old kids shouldn’t he taking a choke slam in a wresting ring because at 13 they are still developing their bone structure. I remember when I went to secondary school at 13 and there was a small weights room next to the sports hall and there was a sign in bold letters than said the equipment was for people over a certain age. I mean surely safety is no 1 here. I think Toni was 13 when she started out, and she's said that she regrets starting so young.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 26, 2021 13:18:00 GMT -5
Like between this, the many stories from Full Sail regulars of her parents being obnoxious, the fact she was training under Chasyn Rance for a time, and that former member from here who went on to be a supercreep to Izzy on twitter, they should've just let this kid be a kid.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 13:24:26 GMT -5
The WWE saw her as a marketing tool for Bayley and then her parents likely came to the realization...we got a little cash machine on our hands.
Just like those toddler shows where parents make their children into unspeakable horror stories because they can't live without even the smallest bit of fame.
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Post by cornettesracket on Oct 26, 2021 13:24:29 GMT -5
Like between this, the many stories from Full Sail regulars of her parents being obnoxious, the fact she was training under Chasyn Rance for a time, and that former member from here who went on to be a supercreep to Izzy on twitter, they should've just let this kid be a kid. well when they are leading fans in a concerted effort to boo a wrestler because he has the audacity to suggest that a 13 year old not take a choke slam in a wrestling ring. What a heel MSK is. They certainly sound like they are believing their own hype. Also, am I confusing her with someone else or did Izzy have to wear some kind of back brace for a time ?
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Post by lucas_lee on Oct 26, 2021 13:26:37 GMT -5
I should mention that her parents were cool with Chasyn Rande training her. And they let grown men hug her for money at conventions
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 13:28:55 GMT -5
I should mention that her parents were cool with Chasyn Rande training her. And they let grown men hug her for money at conventions Yeah, but Nash Carter thought she was too young to take a Chokeslam!
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Post by cornettesracket on Oct 26, 2021 13:29:45 GMT -5
I should mention that her parents were cool with Chasyn Rande training her. And they let grown men hug her for money at conventionsHug her for money ? 😳😳
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Oct 26, 2021 13:34:45 GMT -5
Man, MSK bother the hell out of me because they exude annoying heel energy but these jackasses are way worse.
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Post by lucas_lee on Oct 26, 2021 13:38:42 GMT -5
I should mention that her parents were cool with Chasyn Rande training her. And they let grown men hug her for money at conventionsHug her for money ? 😳😳 Yes you read that right.
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