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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Dec 13, 2021 12:29:28 GMT -5
So, I don't really follow Impact, due to not getting AXS in my cable package. But I've seen clips on YouTube of her under three different gimmicks. And I have questions.
What is the purpose of the three different gimmicks? Is this a 3 Faces of Foley type thing? What precipitates her to change from one persona to the next? And what makes each persona more/less useful than the others?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2021 12:59:24 GMT -5
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_YungIn a nutshell. Su Yung is the OG. She takes one primary form at a time. She was "killed off" by Havoc. Started showing up as Susie. In special cases she returns as Su Yung, like when she defeated Deonna at BFG 20. Deonna and Kimber Lee needed to "get rid of their Su Yung problem" and had James Mitchell perform witchcraft on her. Which resulted in Susan. Susan is a kayfabe terrible wrestler so Kimber Lee tried to remind her of her Su Yung roots. She retuned as Su Yung as she was "Su Yung all along" and turned Kimber and Rachel Lauren into Undead Bridesmaids. Susan and Susie are not "good wrestlers". As Susie is very timid and Susan is just kinda a sloppy brawler. It's not really three faces of Foley as all of them act, look, and wrestle different. Where all of Foley's gimmicks kinda blended together when they got in the ring. Vannarah Riggs is absolutely amazing.
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Post by sunnytaker on Dec 13, 2021 13:04:28 GMT -5
i missed a few parts of the story here and there but this is what i recall ( i may have the timing and who beat who incorrect).
su yung was the original incarnation- the undead bride who feuded with rosemary and allie and i think took allie's soul forcing rosemary to go to father james mitchell to help her get it back but while they were there the only way for allie to be free was for rosemary to take her place in "hell" (i think rosemary was injured at the time so this is how she was written off). allie returns and becomes Demon Bunny because she was still partially affected but loses to su yung and i think that was her farewell to Impact before going off with the butcher and the blade to her bunny gimmick they use in AEW.
i believe this was when deonna purrazzo made her debut and su yung was champ, they swapped the title back and forth and deonna wanted to make sure su yung never challenged her again so she went to james mitchell and made a deal to make sure su yung never returned. mitchell's response was to make a new persona in su yung which became susie- a naive , innocent woman with no memory of su yung at all. she also lost most of her matches at this point because she lacked a killer instinct with the su yung persona gone. then one match susie took either a chair shot or kendo stick to the skull which cracked the "spell" allowing su yung to slowly start leaking back out into susie leading her to snap at various points and start using su yung's moves again and occasionally being possessed by that persona for brief periods before the "susie" mode reset.
eventually su yung came through again and purrazzo went back to mitchell to have him "fix it". this resulted in "Susan" who had a bad attitude but dressed like an office professional who was much more vocal than either su yung or susie but with major anger issues but no sign of either of the previous personas (though i vaguely recall susan stating at one point she wasn;t susie or su yung so she might be the only persona aware of all three- or she was just being angry at being addressed incorrectly). she joined forces with purazzo and kimber lee to keep the title on deonna. eventually deonna kicked the other two to the curb after they screwed up too many times and Kimber Lee went to james mitchell to try and change susie into someone more useful (or she wanted su yung back- i forget). Susan ended up turning back into su yung and this time dragged kimber lee into "hell" to transform her into one of su yung's undead bridesmaids to start collecting souls for su yung. they took kiera hogan's soul (to write her off when her contract ran out) and turned a newcomer brooke something (no not jake something's sister- i forget her last name)into another undead bridesmaid and the two of them have been trying to collect souls for su yung who i don;t believe has wrestled since "returning"
so it's not quite a faces of foley thing since none of the personalities except possibly susan knew the other two existed. hope this helps and i didn;t mangle too many of the details.
((edit- i totally forgot about havoc being involved- see i told i'd miss something ))
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2021 13:12:03 GMT -5
i missed a few parts of the story here and there but this is what i recall ( i may have the timing and who beat who incorrect). su yung was the original incarnation- the undead bride who feuded with rosemary and allie and i think took allie's soul forcing rosemary to go to father james mitchell to help her get it back but while they were there the only way for allie to be free was for rosemary to take her place in "hell" (i think rosemary was injured at the time so this is how she was written off). allie returns and becomes Demon Bunny because she was still partially affected but loses to su yung and i think that was her farewell to Impact before going off with the butcher and the blade to her bunny gimmick they use in AEW. i believe this was when deonna purrazzo made her debut and su yung was champ, they swapped the title back and forth and deonna wanted to make sure su yung never challenged her again so she went to james mitchell and made a deal to make sure su yung never returned. mitchell's response was to make a new persona in su yung which became susie- a naive , innocent woman with no memory of su yung at all. she also lost most of her matches at this point because she lacked a killer instinct with the su yung persona gone. then one match susie took either a chair shot or kendo stick to the skull which cracked the "spell" allowing su yung to slowly start leaking back out into susie leading her to snap at various points and start using su yung's moves again and occasionally being possessed by that persona for brief periods before the "susie" mode reset. eventually su yung came through again and purrazzo went back to mitchell to have him "fix it". this resulted in "Susan" who had a bad attitude but dressed like an office professional who was much more vocal than either su yung or susie but with major anger issues but no sign of either of the previous personas (though i vaguely recall susan stating at one point she wasn;t susie or su yung so she might be the only persona aware of all three- or she was just being angry at being addressed incorrectly). she joined forces with purazzo and kimber lee to keep the title on deonna. eventually deonna kicked the other two to the curb after they screwed up too many times and Kimber Lee went to james mitchell to try and change susie into someone more useful (or she wanted su yung back- i forget). Susan ended up turning back into su yung and this time dragged kimber lee into "hell" to transform her into one of su yung's undead bridesmaids to start collecting souls for su yung. they took kiera hogan's soul (to write her off when her contract ran out) and turned a newcomer brooke something (no not jake something's sister- i forget her last name)into another undead bridesmaid and the two of them have been trying to collect souls for su yung who i don;t believe has wrestled since "returning" so it's not quite a faces of foley thing since none of the personalities except possibly susan knew the other two existed. hope this helps and i didn;t mangle too many of the details. ((edit- i totally forgot about havoc being involved- see i told i'd miss something )) Close enough. I seriously jumped in at the match where Su Yung and Havoc were fighting the in the undead realm and one of them had to kill james mitchell (he's died like two times) and then Rosemary had to teleport them back to Impact. It's incredibly hard to explain, but it's awesome and Impact is my favorite show.
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Post by salz4life on Dec 13, 2021 15:49:38 GMT -5
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_YungIn a nutshell. Su Yung is the OG. She takes one primary form at a time. She was "killed off" by Havoc. Started showing up as Susie. In special cases she returns as Su Yung, like when she defeated Deonna at BFG 20. Deonna and Kimber Lee needed to "get rid of their Su Yung problem" and had James Mitchell perform witchcraft on her. Which resulted in Susan. Susan is a kayfabe terrible wrestler so Kimber Lee tried to remind her of her Su Yung roots. She retuned as Su Yung as she was "Su Yung all along" and turned Kimber and Rachel Lauren into Undead Bridesmaids. Susan and Susie are not "good wrestlers". As Susie is very timid and Susan is just kinda a sloppy brawler. It's not really three faces of Foley as all of them act, look, and wrestle different. Where all of Foley's gimmicks kinda blended together when they got in the ring. Vannarah Riggs is absolutely amazing. This..... sounds amazing. If she wrestles 3 distinct styles with the each of the 3 personas, she is great!
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Dec 13, 2021 16:41:41 GMT -5
This sounds crazy fun to watch. I've seen a few highlights on Youtube when it gets recommended to me, but most of what I've seen is Susan, then I saw a clip with Su Yung and Kimber Lee as an Undead Bridesmaid, which caught my eye.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2021 17:10:29 GMT -5
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Dec 13, 2021 18:04:43 GMT -5
LOL at Mitchell at the end of that first clip. "Who booked this shit?!"
So Rosemary... is she supposed to be a normal chick who "just so happens" to have supernatural abilities lol?? And was Susie always so... off?
And Tommy Dreamer?? WTF??
For a married couple, Josh and Madison have no chemistry on commentary lol
Susan vs. Deonna is actually one of the segments I had already seen. It is crazy to think that all three characters are the same woman. She really does pull off different styles flawlessly.
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Post by BorneAgain on Dec 13, 2021 18:09:11 GMT -5
LOL at Mitchell at the end of that first clip. "Who booked this shit?!" So Rosemary... is she supposed to be a normal chick who "just so happens" to have supernatural abilities lol?? And was Susie always so... off? Rosemary has her own complicated backstory which can be seen in the Masters of the Multiverse series on YouTube. Suffice to say, her Courtney Rush, Allie, and Cherry Bomb all play a part (and yes those are technically separate people in this story).
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Dec 13, 2021 18:32:02 GMT -5
Su-Sue-sudioooooo
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 13, 2021 19:00:53 GMT -5
It was more interesting when they had Susie come out on stage and was attacked by Su Yung. Who than face Deonna.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2021 19:15:26 GMT -5
I akin Su Yung to a very basic version of Jane from Doom Patrol just without the obvious dynamics.
She has multiple personalities that can be the dominant one at any time and are wildly different.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2021 20:28:07 GMT -5
LOL at Mitchell at the end of that first clip. "Who booked this shit?!" So Rosemary... is she supposed to be a normal chick who "just so happens" to have supernatural abilities lol?? And was Susie always so... off? And Tommy Dreamer?? WTF?? For a married couple, Josh and Madison have no chemistry on commentary lol Susan vs. Deonna is actually one of the segments I had already seen. It is crazy to think that all three characters are the same woman. She really does pull off different styles flawlessly. What’s crazy is all those clips happened in just a little over a year. I’ve met her as Susan. It’s my goal to get a selfie with all three of her personalities.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2021 22:41:27 GMT -5
It was more interesting when they had Susie come out on stage and was attacked by Su Yung. Who than face Deonna. It is cool when they appear together. However you’re slightly mixing things up. Susie bringing out her “friend” youtu.be/lVoXN28aZDYSu Yung attacking Susan before the match at Hardcore Justice. youtu.be/EAjyKZC94TkGigi Dolin and Su Yung are my 1A and 1B of my favorite woman wrestlers.
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Post by Larryhausen on Dec 13, 2021 23:22:05 GMT -5
It should be revealed that a future version travels back in time to 1987 and gives birth to Trent Berretta.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2021 23:37:21 GMT -5
It should be revealed that a future version travels back in time to 1987 and gives birth to Trent Berretta. This is head cannon now.
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Post by jimmyjames on Dec 14, 2021 4:35:54 GMT -5
Su Yung and Susan - That's bad.
Susie - That's good!
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Post by jimmyjames on Dec 14, 2021 4:39:55 GMT -5
Old timers on here might remember Todd. On his youtube channel he has videos of Su Yung, Susie and Susan sending him a birthday message. It's great and shows how talented she is to pull off three completely different characters.
Sorry I don't know how to post a link but I believe the channel is Todd's Autograph arena.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 14, 2021 12:35:25 GMT -5
It was more interesting when they had Susie come out on stage and was attacked by Su Yung. Who than face Deonna. It is cool when they appear together. However you’re slightly mixing things up. Susie bringing out her “friend” youtu.be/lVoXN28aZDYSu Yung attacking Susan before the match at Hardcore Justice. youtu.be/EAjyKZC94TkGigi Dolin and Su Yung are my 1A and 1B of my favorite woman wrestlers. Thats what it was. I just remember the one time they appeared together involved Deonna. Its cool how they pull it off, Su Yung just love the character.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2021 12:43:01 GMT -5
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