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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Mar 15, 2023 14:30:55 GMT -5
They made an entire video game about this plot. They made this shit show They made Titans They made Batwoman What they all have in common is a post Batman setting. Approved because someone said people will like this Batman product…without Batman If you want, you can go further back to the Halle Berry Catwoman movie, or the 2003 Birds of Prey TV series. I'll always have a special place in my heart for the old Birds of Prey show.
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Post by DSR on Mar 15, 2023 16:24:48 GMT -5
If you want, you can go further back to the Halle Berry Catwoman movie, or the 2003 Birds of Prey TV series. I'll always have a special place in my heart for the old Birds of Prey show. I have it on DVD. It's a fun time capsule of that era of...stuff.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 15, 2023 17:53:32 GMT -5
The character of Stephanie Brown deserves so much better than this. Me, but with Harper Row. (I realize I'm probably one of the few people who's a fan of her out there)
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Mar 15, 2023 17:59:42 GMT -5
The character of Stephanie Brown deserves so much better than this. Me, but with Harper Row. (I realize I'm probably one of the few people who's a fan of her out there) Fan of hers as well. Honestly, this whole cast minus the made for CW ward of Batman deserve better. It's a shame that THIS is the show Stephanie Brown and Harper Row premiere in (unless they've shown up randomly in Titans since I stopped watching). Hell, not even a fan of Duela Dent but even her character deserves better. Just really need a good film that is just based around the Batman family. Don't even need Bats in it, just Nightwing and crew.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 15, 2023 18:41:01 GMT -5
Me, but with Harper Row. (I realize I'm probably one of the few people who's a fan of her out there) Fan of hers as well. Honestly, this whole cast minus the made for CW ward of Batman deserve better. It's a shame that THIS is the show Stephanie Brown and Harper Row premiere in (unless they've shown up randomly in Titans since I stopped watching). Hell, not even a fan of Duela Dent but even her character deserves better. Just really need a good film that is just based around the Batman family. Don't even need Bats in it, just Nightwing and crew. I joke often that I wanted Harper in Gotham Knights, but the show not being the one I meant. (for context, it's the game I'm referring to)
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Post by Cyno on Mar 15, 2023 18:45:26 GMT -5
I still don't understand with all the adopted wards and actual children Bruce Wayne has in a number of continuities, you have to make up a shitty CW OC instead of using one of them.
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Post by CMWaters on Mar 15, 2023 19:10:09 GMT -5
I still don't understand with all the adopted wards and actual children Bruce Wayne has in a number of continuities, you have to make up a shitty CW OC instead of using one of them. Rights issues. It's happened numerous times over the years. The two biggest I can think of was the issues with Robin not appearing with the Teen Titans outside of comics prior to the 2000s series (even going as far as to not appear in the drug PSA comics because they were sponsored by a different company than what Batman and Robin were sponsored by) and the infamous "Bat Embargo" when "The Batman" came into existence, preventing "Justice League Unlimited" from using any Batman related characters save for Batman, Huntress and a shadowy cameo from Nightwing one episode (excluding Batman Beyond stuff since that's a whole different kettle of fish).
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 15, 2023 19:15:27 GMT -5
I still don't understand with all the adopted wards and actual children Bruce Wayne has in a number of continuities, you have to make up a shitty CW OC instead of using one of them. Rights issues. It's happened numerous times over the years. The two biggest I can think of was the issues with Robin not appearing with the Teen Titans outside of comics prior to the 2000s series (even going as far as to not appear in the drug PSA comics because they were sponsored by a different company than what Batman and Robin were sponsored by) and the infamous "Bat Embargo" when "The Batman" came into existence, preventing "Justice League Unlimited" from using any Batman related characters save for Batman, Huntress and a shadowy cameo from Nightwing one episode (excluding Batman Beyond stuff since that's a whole different kettle of fish). Then you have Justice League not being allowed to use Aquaman due to the CW pilot that didn't get picked up anyway. DC's always been completely stupid.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Mar 16, 2023 11:20:10 GMT -5
Rights issues. It's happened numerous times over the years. The two biggest I can think of was the issues with Robin not appearing with the Teen Titans outside of comics prior to the 2000s series (even going as far as to not appear in the drug PSA comics because they were sponsored by a different company than what Batman and Robin were sponsored by) and the infamous "Bat Embargo" when "The Batman" came into existence, preventing "Justice League Unlimited" from using any Batman related characters save for Batman, Huntress and a shadowy cameo from Nightwing one episode (excluding Batman Beyond stuff since that's a whole different kettle of fish). Then you have Justice League not being allowed to use Aquaman due to the CW pilot that didn't get picked up anyway. DC's always been completely stupid. Or they wanted to kill off the Suicide Squad in Arrow because the movie came out
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Post by Cyno on Mar 16, 2023 14:42:50 GMT -5
Rights issues. It's happened numerous times over the years. The two biggest I can think of was the issues with Robin not appearing with the Teen Titans outside of comics prior to the 2000s series (even going as far as to not appear in the drug PSA comics because they were sponsored by a different company than what Batman and Robin were sponsored by) and the infamous "Bat Embargo" when "The Batman" came into existence, preventing "Justice League Unlimited" from using any Batman related characters save for Batman, Huntress and a shadowy cameo from Nightwing one episode (excluding Batman Beyond stuff since that's a whole different kettle of fish). Then you have Justice League not being allowed to use Aquaman due to the CW pilot that didn't get picked up anyway. DC's always been completely stupid. I will never get why DC self-sabotages itself like this. At least Marvel has the excuse of stupid executives with lack of foresight in the 90's tying their hands on some of their characters. DC doesn't have that.
On an interesting note, Anna Lore, the actress that plays Stephanie Brown in this show, is Ryan Nemeth's girlfriend.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Mar 16, 2023 16:11:24 GMT -5
Then you have Justice League not being allowed to use Aquaman due to the CW pilot that didn't get picked up anyway. DC's always been completely stupid. I will never get why DC self-sabotages itself like this. Never doubt an executive's ability to think they understand what fans want more than the fans do.
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Post by CMWaters on Mar 16, 2023 16:15:07 GMT -5
I will never get why DC self-sabotages itself like this. Never doubt an executive's ability to think they understand what fans want more than the fans do. Or in the case of something like the Bat-Embargo, the fans' intelligence, thinking they'd get confused by seeing the Batman villains elsewhere than "The Batman".
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Mar 16, 2023 16:23:30 GMT -5
Never doubt an executive's ability to think they understand what fans want more than the fans do. Or in the case of something like the Bat-Embargo, the fans' intelligence, thinking they'd get confused by seeing the Batman villains elsewhere than "The Batman". Not defending the Bat-Embargo at all, but they've now swung too far in the other direction too. All this bullshit about Constantine 2, potentially keeping DCEU faces around, some bullshit about f***ing George Clooney. They're making a mess.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Mar 16, 2023 16:39:56 GMT -5
Or in the case of something like the Bat-Embargo, the fans' intelligence, thinking they'd get confused by seeing the Batman villains elsewhere than "The Batman". Not defending the Bat-Embargo at all, but they've now swung too far in the other direction too. All this bullshit about Constantine 2, potentially keeping DCEU faces around, some bullshit about f***ing George Clooney. They're making a mess. Well the Clooney thing was just fans wank stuff and a complete rumor. And really, we haven't really seen too much of what to expect other than some films in the future here to know enough about who will be kept around. Also, I'll die on the hill that is Constantine 2. Loved the hell out of the first. Moody atmosphere, surreal imagery, some solid ass casting (the Devil was PERFECT). I am all for more of that universe. British or not.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Mar 17, 2023 2:44:58 GMT -5
None of this would have happened if they had just used The Hoot Owl like I suggested.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Mar 17, 2023 10:40:03 GMT -5
So did anyone jump on a grenade for us and watch it?
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 17, 2023 12:35:16 GMT -5
So did anyone jump on a grenade for us and watch it? Yes. Mainly for Bluebird. It was an hour that certainly happened.
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Post by James Fabiano on May 3, 2023 16:48:03 GMT -5
Then you have Justice League not being allowed to use Aquaman due to the CW pilot that didn't get picked up anyway. DC's always been completely stupid. Or they wanted to kill off the Suicide Squad in Arrow because the movie came out No Deathstroke nor Deadshot for the same reasons. And this didn't start with the 2000s, even! Batman characters other than Batman and Robin being split amongst the Superfriends and Filmation franchises.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on May 3, 2023 16:57:18 GMT -5
I've been watching this and meeting it at the middle and, it's honestly not terrible. Not the best show, but nowhere near as shitty as the first trailers made it out to be.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 13, 2023 0:48:25 GMT -5
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