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Post by horsemen4ever on Dec 14, 2021 20:43:48 GMT -5
Does Lucy Van Pelt get a unfair bad rap? I don't know, watching Charlie Brown Christmas and some of the other earlier specials, she is not the worst of the worst. Violet and Violet's friend the brown hair girl whose name escape they are much meaner than Lucy.
Lucy at the very least, does other stuff besides be mean, not to mention in the Pumpkin Patch special we saw depth to her character like bringing Linus home at the very end. While Violet and Violet's brown haired friend, there is no real depth to them.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Dec 14, 2021 21:08:11 GMT -5
Her name is Patty. She was in the very first Peanuts strip. Also it's Linus, not Lionel.
And yeah, I'd argue that Lucy is worse. Violet and Patty are just generic mean girls, ignorant about what they're doing and easily ignored. Lucy is a little Hannibal Lector. She knows exactly how to manipulate and hurt you to screw with you the most. Violet and Patty will grow up to be someone's bitter ex-wife. Lucy will grow up to be a super-villain.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Dec 14, 2021 21:11:03 GMT -5
Nah, she's a little asshole.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Dec 14, 2021 21:11:46 GMT -5
Her name is Patty. She was in the very first Peanuts strip. Also it's Linus, not Lionel. And yeah, I'd argue that Lucy is worse. Violet and Patty are just generic mean girls, ignorant about what they're doing and easily ignored. Lucy is a little Hannibal Lector. She knows exactly how to manipulate and hurt you to screw with you the most. Violet and Patty will grow up to be someone's bitter ex-wife. Lucy will grow up to be a super-villain. Well I agree and dis agree, Lucy at her worst is defiantly worse than any of them, but there is some depth to her character that the others don't really have. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2021 21:12:44 GMT -5
Remember; Lucy deliberately did the "pull the football away" bit during an actual football game and had the temerity to *blame* Charlie Brown later.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Dec 14, 2021 21:13:54 GMT -5
Lucy grows up to be a Karen.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Dec 14, 2021 21:40:36 GMT -5
Remember; Lucy deliberately did the "pull the football away" bit during an actual football game and had the temerity to *blame* Charlie Brown later. This. All of this. Everyone blamed Charlie Brown for losing the homecoming game, but nobody seems to remember Lucy pulling the ball away, costing them FOUR POINTS. Granted, Charlie Brown had a punt blocked for a touchdown, but that was more terrible blocking by the line on a punt. It's like, do you kids know how to block? I think that cost them another 7 points. So take those away, and add the others, they actually win the game, 24-14. At least I think that's what it would be. I always assumed they lost 21-20. |
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Post by hassanchop on Dec 14, 2021 21:46:05 GMT -5
She’s disrespectful to Ed-, I mean to pianos
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Post by horsemen4ever on Dec 14, 2021 21:49:22 GMT -5
Remember; Lucy deliberately did the "pull the football away" bit during an actual football game and had the temerity to *blame* Charlie Brown later. This. All of this. Everyone blamed Charlie Brown for losing the homecoming game, but nobody seems to remember Lucy pulling the ball away, costing them FOUR POINTS. Granted, Charlie Brown had a punt blocked for a touchdown, but that was more terrible blocking by the line on a punt. It's like, do you kids know how to block? I think that cost them another 7 points. So take those away, and add the others, they actually win the game, 24-14. At least I think that's what it would be. I always assumed they lost 21-20. Yeah like everyone blames Buckner for the game 6 lose. They forget the game was tied, Stanley should have been the real goat, he throw the wild pitch that tied the game. |
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Post by chrom on Dec 14, 2021 22:25:57 GMT -5
Lucy grows up to be a Karen. That's an insult to Karens |
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 15, 2021 1:27:49 GMT -5
Remember; Lucy deliberately did the "pull the football away" bit during an actual football game and had the temerity to *blame* Charlie Brown later. This. All of this. Everyone blamed Charlie Brown for losing the homecoming game, but nobody seems to remember Lucy pulling the ball away, costing them FOUR POINTS. Granted, Charlie Brown had a punt blocked for a touchdown, but that was more terrible blocking by the line on a punt. It's like, do you kids know how to block? I think that cost them another 7 points. So take those away, and add the others, they actually win the game, 24-14. At least I think that's what it would be. I always assumed they lost 21-20. I think Charles Schulz hated that special for that reason. That and showing the little red haired girl. |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 15, 2021 3:34:53 GMT -5
Remember; Lucy deliberately did the "pull the football away" bit during an actual football game and had the temerity to *blame* Charlie Brown later. This. All of this. Everyone blamed Charlie Brown for losing the homecoming game, but nobody seems to remember Lucy pulling the ball away, costing them FOUR POINTS. Granted, Charlie Brown had a punt blocked for a touchdown, but that was more terrible blocking by the line on a punt. It's like, do you kids know how to block? I think that cost them another 7 points. So take those away, and add the others, they actually win the game, 24-14. At least I think that's what it would be. I always assumed they lost 21-20. |
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Dec 15, 2021 8:06:29 GMT -5
This. All of this. Everyone blamed Charlie Brown for losing the homecoming game, but nobody seems to remember Lucy pulling the ball away, costing them FOUR POINTS. Granted, Charlie Brown had a punt blocked for a touchdown, but that was more terrible blocking by the line on a punt. It's like, do you kids know how to block? I think that cost them another 7 points. So take those away, and add the others, they actually win the game, 24-14. At least I think that's what it would be. I always assumed they lost 21-20. What would have been funnier is after Peter beat her up, she still pulled the football away. And when asked why she would do that she simply says "I am Lucy Van Pelt. Killing hopes and crushing dreams is what I do, it is who I am". Then Peter spin-kicks her. |
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 15, 2021 9:24:18 GMT -5
That's like asking if Charlie Brown isn't a blockhead.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Dec 15, 2021 14:26:17 GMT -5
No, she's a little monster. She constantly tortures Charlie Brown, is generally terrible to her siblings (minus a few loving moments), and repeatedly destroys Schroeder's pianos because he had the temerity to not return the affection of a narcissistic stalker. Sure, she has more depth than the other mean girls in the series, but that does not make her better than them.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Dec 15, 2021 16:19:50 GMT -5
I would normally never advocate for harm to come to even a fictional child.
But Lucy is a strong argument for "The bitch had it coming."
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Dec 15, 2021 16:25:49 GMT -5
Well Lucy is, in my opinion, the greatest character ever created in the entire history of the medium, so whatever Sparky was doing when he made her, I'm glad he did.
I got a lot of those swanky Peanuts anthology collections they put out a few years ago. And reading through, it's amazing how hysterically funny it still is, and how the lion's share of those laughs are from Lucy.
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Post by Gremlin on Dec 15, 2021 17:53:57 GMT -5
As a kid, my best friend’s older sister was exactly like her: a mega beeotch.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Dec 15, 2021 21:09:14 GMT -5
Her crowning moment of awful came in the episode about the girl with cancer, who she says to the effect of, she deserves it because she’s a weird kid.
It’s widely believed that Charles Schulz based Lucy on his first wife, so take that for what you will.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Dec 15, 2021 21:41:55 GMT -5
Looking at the comics and the animated specials, I really do believe that Schulz had a lot of unresolved issues with women. The only female character he wrote that wasn't regularly shown to be either a bully or a jerk to Charlie Brown was Marcie, who was written to be quiet and subservient. There really are a lot of unfortunate implications to it.
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