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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 16, 2021 11:06:34 GMT -5
I'm mostly wondering why on earth they'd even pay him that much when the most notable thing he's done in years is lose to Roman Reigns 800 times. They consider him and use him as a main eventer or upper midcarder, and he delivers great matches and strong promos pretty consistently. The top top guys get $5 million plus apparently so $2 million for Owens seems about right.
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Post by Mecca on Dec 16, 2021 11:07:53 GMT -5
I'm mostly wondering why on earth they'd even pay him that much when the most notable thing he's done in years is lose to Roman Reigns 800 times. Perception, it was important for them to change this narrative that everyone was leaving or no one wants to be there.
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Post by msc on Dec 16, 2021 11:14:54 GMT -5
Bloody hell, that man's a genius.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 16, 2021 11:25:37 GMT -5
Meltzer said he signed a 3 year deal worth between 2-3 million dollars per year without a no-cut clause. Talk about securing the bag, holy shit. If I were getting paid AT LEAST 13 grand and nearly up to 20 grand a week for it, I’d be like “15 seconds clean to Reigns in the middle? F*** yeah, why not make it five seconds?”. I could cry about my athletic credibility and loss of creative licence when my kids go off to college. "You want to give me the old Adam Rose gimmick? Sounds good!"
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Dec 16, 2021 11:27:19 GMT -5
Meltzer said he signed a 3 year deal worth between 2-3 million dollars per year without a no-cut clause. I mean, even if he gets cut in six months, that's probably more money than most make in ten years. I see the vision, Kevin. I'm pretty sure anyone can.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 16, 2021 11:35:03 GMT -5
Can't blame him taking that kind of security along with the payout. I'd say that at that price he should be one of their tip top guys, but it's hard to tell with their booking sometimes. I dont think there is any security, it DOESNT has a no-cut clause. they could release him next week if they wanted. But I doubt they will,its still great money with little risk(and still underpaid for what WWE makes ) Damn, I misread it. Ah well, even if he's cut in six months he's still walking away with a cool million before taxes.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Dec 16, 2021 12:13:25 GMT -5
AEW's roster is already pretty huge so there is always that risk he would get lost in the shuffle.
Better the devil you know I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 12:21:43 GMT -5
This was a smart decision for all involved. Owens getting into the player coach role, Owens making so much money for his family, Owens helping the newer talent get established, it's great. He's going to be one of the pillars of this generation to to shape what WWE is in the future. In a way, he's going to basically be like the Bret Harts or the Shawn Michaels of their eras. Shawn wasn't the main dude when he returned most of the time but in the 00s, he was that pillar they needed. Owens is that.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 16, 2021 12:24:15 GMT -5
I'm mostly wondering why on earth they'd even pay him that much when the most notable thing he's done in years is lose to Roman Reigns 800 times. They consider him and use him as a main eventer or upper midcarder, and he delivers great matches and strong promos pretty consistently. The top top guys get $5 million plus apparently so $2 million for Owens seems about right. Yep. It’s in relation to the rest of the roster. You can use him in so many roles, particularly at the top when the card’s running thin. It’s like an team investing heavy in an above average player. Yeah, it seems like a steep price but it’s actually pretty close to market value when you look at his peers
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 13:02:30 GMT -5
Also, I said it earlier in this thread, that depending on how they do with Owens, this could influence Sami Zayn re-signing. Give him a similar position and he's probably doing the same. Right now he's doing the best character work of his career while doing segments with the lead stars. I mean it's looking great for him to stick around. He can be another pillar they need to build the newer talent.
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Post by eJm on Dec 16, 2021 13:37:07 GMT -5
Eh, honestly, if I were being paid that much, I’d want to be treated like I’m being paid that much. Like, obviously I’m not Kevin Owens here so who knows whether our jokey scenarios happen but that’s how I see it.
If I were being paid a top salary to be a top name on an NBA side (or even my precious Arsenal), I want to play as much as possible, be on all the promotional material, be one of the main people interviewed by the media, all that. Sounds simplistic, sure, but I want the opportunity to make more money on top of my money. That’s what someone of that wage should ask for.
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Post by Kalmia on Dec 16, 2021 13:52:38 GMT -5
It's really difficult to say what's best for a wrestler because each one is going to judge their careers in different ways. If Owens is primarily concerned with raking in the $$$ and that's what WWE has given him, then good for him.
Other wrestlers might care more about being a champion and their position on the card. Others might care more about creative freedom or putting on banger matches. I don't think any wrestler should be criticized for going for what they want.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 16, 2021 13:59:24 GMT -5
Talk about securing the bag, holy shit. If I were getting paid AT LEAST 13 grand and nearly up to 20 grand a week for it, I’d be like “15 seconds clean to Reigns in the middle? F*** yeah, why not make it five seconds?”. I could cry about my athletic credibility and loss of creative licence when my kids go off to college. "You want to give me the old Adam Rose gimmick? Sounds good!" yeah, dude looks at wrestling like a job. Which is the smartest way to look at it... due to how scummy a lot of the promoters out there are that can and do prey on the people that treat it like a passion.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 16, 2021 14:02:01 GMT -5
Eh, honestly, if I were being paid that much, I’d want to be treated like I’m being paid that much. Like, obviously I’m not Kevin Owens here so who knows whether our jokey scenarios happen but that’s how I see it. If I were being paid a top salary to be a top name on an NBA side (or even my precious Arsenal), I want to play as much as possible, be on all the promotional material, be one of the main people interviewed by the media, all that. Sounds simplistic, sure, but I want the opportunity to make more money on top of my money. That’s what someone of that wage should ask for. I’m just approaching it from the point of view of someone who’d have to work for literally four or five months to make the same amount he makes in a week.
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Post by eJm on Dec 16, 2021 14:04:39 GMT -5
Eh, honestly, if I were being paid that much, I’d want to be treated like I’m being paid that much. Like, obviously I’m not Kevin Owens here so who knows whether our jokey scenarios happen but that’s how I see it. If I were being paid a top salary to be a top name on an NBA side (or even my precious Arsenal), I want to play as much as possible, be on all the promotional material, be one of the main people interviewed by the media, all that. Sounds simplistic, sure, but I want the opportunity to make more money on top of my money. That’s what someone of that wage should ask for. I’m just approaching it from the point of view of someone who’d have to work for literally four or five months to make the same amount he makes in a week. And I get that. But I guess the best comparison is if I was promoted to a manager’s salary, I best actually be the manager and not a dude you’re paying me a lot of money to scrub floors. Not because of thinking about the company but if I do go, I don’t want people not paying me the same amount on my next job because I just scrubbed floors.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Dec 16, 2021 15:10:17 GMT -5
Eh, honestly, if I were being paid that much, I’d want to be treated like I’m being paid that much. Like, obviously I’m not Kevin Owens here so who knows whether our jokey scenarios happen but that’s how I see it. If I were being paid a top salary to be a top name on an NBA side (or even my precious Arsenal), I want to play as much as possible, be on all the promotional material, be one of the main people interviewed by the media, all that. Sounds simplistic, sure, but I want the opportunity to make more money on top of my money. That’s what someone of that wage should ask for. Just stating my view: Ving Rhames got paid an eye-watering $7m for a 3 minute cameo in Mission Impossible 3. In the performance arts, which I consider WWE to be, getting paid for a role, not the duration or impact of the role is used for compensation more often than drawing power (like the upper echelon like Cruise, Downey Jr etc) That kind of money KO is getting will create generational wealth and set up his great grandkids if invested correctly let alone his immediate family. You're right that he should be asking for more exposure but if you're making bank for the bare minimum and your kids' kids don't have to work a day in their lives for jobbing to Roman, it's not a bad thing either.
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Post by eJm on Dec 16, 2021 15:19:42 GMT -5
Eh, honestly, if I were being paid that much, I’d want to be treated like I’m being paid that much. Like, obviously I’m not Kevin Owens here so who knows whether our jokey scenarios happen but that’s how I see it. If I were being paid a top salary to be a top name on an NBA side (or even my precious Arsenal), I want to play as much as possible, be on all the promotional material, be one of the main people interviewed by the media, all that. Sounds simplistic, sure, but I want the opportunity to make more money on top of my money. That’s what someone of that wage should ask for. Just stating my view: Ving Rhames got paid an eye-watering $7m for a 3 minute cameo in Mission Impossible 3. In the performance arts, which I consider WWE to be, getting paid for a role, not the duration or impact of the role is used for compensation more often than drawing power (like the upper echelon like Cruise, Downey Jr etc) That kind of money KO is getting will create generational wealth and set up his great grandkids if invested correctly let alone his immediate family. You're right that he should be asking for more exposure but if you're making bank for the bare minimum and your kids' kids don't have to work a day in their lives for jobbing to Roman, it's not a bad thing either. The thing with acting is that they have agents with their best interest, unions to protect them from being short changed and studios with a bit of respect for what they were doing with the franchises they have (for the most part). That’s why Ving and his agent could not only demand that much but get the studio to accept it. Wrestling has none of that and the people who pay for agents are a handful at best. WWE can look at Owens’ contract, decide they’re actually paying him too much and cut him the day after his original contract would have expired and he’d be able to do nothing about it. Might as well put yourself out there and be involved if they’re paying you that much.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 16, 2021 15:46:39 GMT -5
They need to give KO the belt and then have Pearce have an existential crisis that now he doesn't know who to give title matches to.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 15:49:08 GMT -5
I mean, we don't know if he didn't ask for more exposure and opportunities. All we know is that with that amount of pay he's considered a top guy and we all know how often they use their top guys. Reigns, New Day, Rollins, these people are always in major programs so at the very least Owens will be getting some quality television time. It isn't like they didn't use him prior, they've just got more reasons to push him now. He will either get used a lot and be where he deserves to be or he'll he used to help other talent and collect a check. It's win win for him regardless.
Personally I'm thinking they'll use him more now more than he's been used these past 4 years.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Dec 16, 2021 15:49:54 GMT -5
feel like since Owens is best mates with so many of the AEW guys too they'll have give him the leverage to major get bank off New York
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