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Post by xCompackx on Dec 16, 2021 22:50:57 GMT -5
See, I could see that maybe they'd agree a release to let him do some other projects or sort his head out or whatever, and agree he can come back later - with some sort of extended agreement around the release meaning he can't do X or Y..... But then there was all that stuff about him being awkward to work with, which would be an odd thing to leak if you parted on good terms and expected him back in a year or whatever. So, the theory is possible, but the context of this specific case would point towards no. It's the same stuff they pulled with CM Punk where they called him a quitter on global TV for a cheap heat pop and then wanted him to sign a NDA. Like, I don't know why WWE thinks burning the bridge is a good idea.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 23:26:33 GMT -5
I hope he comes back.
I just don't think he's right for any other company.
The Fiend belongs in WWE.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Dec 17, 2021 3:55:33 GMT -5
No.
It's never a work.
Every time something outside the norm happens, someone always goes, "It's gotta be a work!"
And it never is.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Dec 17, 2021 5:56:56 GMT -5
No. Really no. Not only is this not the type of "work the smart fans" angle that Vince has never been particularly interested in doing, but the WWE is a corporation now with a board of directors and shareholders and God knows what else to answer to. You can't just lie about the contractual status of someone under those conditions and not expect to pay a reckoning for it that I really really doubt Vince is interested in paying. Man, I’ll keep saying this until it stops being a thing; I f***ing hate Vince Russo. As much as I appreciate the sentiment, this is really more of an Eric Bischoff thing. Or even more specifically a Brian Pillman thing?
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 17, 2021 9:08:02 GMT -5
Everybody has answered the question, but I’d go further and say I don’t see him ever wanting to go back. Dude seems to want a lot of creative control he won’t get in WWE.
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Post by salz4life on Dec 17, 2021 9:26:26 GMT -5
I doubt seriously he's release is a work. However, I would not be shocked to see him back.
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Post by joeiscool on Dec 17, 2021 9:53:30 GMT -5
I don't think it's a work. They released it in an official way. I don't think the investors would appreciate a worked shoot involving business affairs.
I do think they could bring him back for less money.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Dec 17, 2021 10:20:55 GMT -5
I don't think it's a work. They released it in an official way. I don't think the investors would appreciate a worked shoot involving business affairs. I do think they could bring him back for less money. The last time was the Trump buying Raw storyline. It caused a hit to their stock and almost got them into trouble with the authorities. I would think they learned their lesson.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Dec 17, 2021 10:21:45 GMT -5
No. Really no. Not only is this not the type of "work the smart fans" angle that Vince has never been particularly interested in doing, but the WWE is a corporation now with a board of directors and shareholders and God knows what else to answer to. You can't just lie about the contractual status of someone under those conditions and not expect to pay a reckoning for it that I really really doubt Vince is interested in paying. As much as I appreciate the sentiment, this is really more of an Eric Bischoff thing. Or even more specifically a Brian Pillman thing? Bischoff was always obsessed with working the boys. Pillman used this to get released for real and head to the WWF.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 17, 2021 10:40:13 GMT -5
As absurd as this sounds, Could Bray Wyatt's release from WWE be a work? I don't think it is. Though there have been theories suggesting it is true due to the following. 1: WWE still produces Fiend Merchandise 2: He has been quiet on Social Media following his release. He didn't break character to thank the fans, His tweets seem to be in character even after being cut. & alot of the cryptic tweets he made following his release hint at a return of the Fiend in some form 3: WWE didn't announce him as Windham Rotunda (His real name) during the article showing his release. But as Bray Wyatt. 4: Though this theory is debunked. He had WWE in his Twitter Handle. (Up until his non-compete clause ended) 5: WWE could have temporarily released him to work on his movie he recently began, For budgetary reasons. Then resigns him when it is finished filming. Windham is such a creative & innovative person. He could have came up with this release as a storyline, Building up hype & then returning when it is least expected, Likely with a more powerful version of the Fiend, & possibly without Funhouse Bray or the puppets (Hence why the WWE.Com release article referred to him as Bray Wyatt) It would be huge if true 1. The merch sold now was likely to have been in the design and production stages well before his release, especially that sold by Mattel et al. If they're making new design merchandise in a few months, then something is amiss. 2. Bray has never been particularly outspoken in public the way many of his peers are, he's not the type who gives a million out of character interviews or rolls from fight to fight with random fans so this seems consistent. He'll probably be louder and angrier about his treatment before his movie is released to use that to generate attention. 3. They've used character names in the past, doesn't mean anything, nor does 4. He was under contract, and he dropped the company from his social media the moment he was free of any commitments. 5. The WWE's attitude toward outside ventures has been lousy to say the less in recent years, taking away revenue streams from talent and making them give up opportunities just because management doesn't think they deserve them. There's no way they said 'Sure, take tine off for your low budget horror film, we'll write you off TV in a crappy worked shoot firing via the website rather than in a storyline.' Releasing him to go work on an outside venture is not consistent with their treatment of talent, certainly not one of the bigger names on the roster, if they supported him at all they would be plugging the hell out of his film, not trying some weird kayfabe that insults the other names fired alongside him.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Dec 17, 2021 10:41:35 GMT -5
No Bray screwed Br....
Sorry confusing moments.
I doubt its a work personally.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Dec 17, 2021 13:09:07 GMT -5
It certainly could be, and Bray could probably pull it off, but they're going about it in a strange way
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Post by r. on Dec 17, 2021 13:16:52 GMT -5
Bray clarifies on Twitter, I said I was going to Hollywood.....Hollywood Hogan jack!
He creates nWo 7.0 and awards himself the original WCW heavyweight title.
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Post by Kalmia on Dec 17, 2021 13:37:46 GMT -5
Yeah, isn't he supposed to be working on a movie or something and that's why he hasn't jumped straight back into wrestling somewhere?
And Twitter handles should never be taken as proof of anything. If you're verified and you change it, you lose your verification and have to go through the verification procedure again. I think there is a way to change it with losing the tick, but it takes more time and involves communicating with Twitter (which always takes even more time)
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Post by Cyno on Dec 17, 2021 13:46:26 GMT -5
Bryan Danielson had "wwedanielbryan" or something similar as his twitter handle for a bit even after he made his AEW debut, so no that doesn't mean much of anything.
Also this is absolutely not a work.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 17, 2021 13:58:36 GMT -5
Not even the slightest chance.
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Post by eJm on Dec 17, 2021 15:47:37 GMT -5
I don't think it's a work. They released it in an official way. I don't think the investors would appreciate a worked shoot involving business affairs. I do think they could bring him back for less money. That’s a thing as well, imagine pitching that to shareholders. “Why did we fire Bray Wyatt? You see, we’ve only fired him temporarily. The plan is that we let him go, tell Sean Ross Sapp we fired him because he was being difficult in terms of creative, give the gimmick to Alexa Bliss for a bit, take her off TV after making her look like a goober, pretty much erode all interest in the gimmick in general, have Bray tweet out he’s working a Movie and putting out hints he’s going to the competition and then when they least expect it, bang! He’s back and better than ever! Oh, the shares are dropping. We…should have expected that, honestly.”
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Dec 17, 2021 17:07:21 GMT -5
No but this is the time that it's definitely definitely a work for sure!
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Dec 17, 2021 17:57:04 GMT -5
I don't think it's a work. They released it in an official way. I don't think the investors would appreciate a worked shoot involving business affairs. I do think they could bring him back for less money. That’s a thing as well, imagine pitching that to shareholders. “Why did we fire Bray Wyatt? You see, we’ve only fired him temporarily. The plan is that we let him go, tell Sean Ross Sapp we fired him because he was being difficult in terms of creative, give the gimmick to Alexa Bliss for a bit, take her off TV after making her look like a goober, pretty much erode all interest in the gimmick in general, have Bray tweet out he’s working a Movie and putting out hints he’s going to the competition and then when they least expect it, bang! He’s back and better than ever! Oh, the shares are dropping. We…should have expected that, honestly.” Shareholders wouldn't really care outside of the fact he's not publicly there to help push and emphjasize the merch they should be using him to shill. But you know who would have an issue with that? Their TV partners, since The Fiend was one both Fox and USA wanted their hands on, and he was very specifically given as one of the stars a network would receive in the balance and distribution of name talent. A storyline that involves having him f***ed off for an extended period of time without any reason other than "to tell some kind of faked story by working people about him being fired" wouldn't make anyone too happy. They'd want The Fiend on TV, and it'd be infuriating to be told "But we're going to work our audience!"
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 17, 2021 19:04:23 GMT -5
Bryan Danielson had "wwedanielbryan" or something similar as his twitter handle for a bit even after he made his AEW debut, so no that doesn't mean much of anything. Yeah, it's all about the verified checkmark. Once you change your username you lose the checkmark and have to get re-verified, which can take months. Easier just to leave it as it is until you show up on another TV show, which really speeds up the process. It's why a lot of released talents who haven't landed with AEW or Impact still have their WWE usernames.
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