Dynamite Viewership for December 15th

[smokinvokoun86]

It’s a shame for the drop, but the World title match did extremely well and the main event picked up the ratings quite nicely.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

The show did well all things considered, west coast feed is still a factor, a ton of competition, and it still got top five and outdid last year. Year to year growth is very important.

Glad to see them get over a million for the home stretch of Hangman/Danielson and to see a lot of that viewership return by the end.

I'm sure there are some people online like always who will try and spin shit into a negative, but this is about as positve a result as you could get imo. Next week is Christmas week, so I hope people won't be shocked if the rating slides down again...

[polarbearpete]

Dec 16, 2021 18:22:04 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

The show did well all things considered, west coast feed is still a factor, a ton of competition, and it still got top five and outdid last year. Year to year growth is very important.

Glad to see them get over a million for the home stretch of Hangman/Danielson and to see a lot of that viewership return by the end.

I'm sure there are some people online like always who will try and spin shit into a negative, but this is about as positve a result as you could get imo. Next week is Christmas week, so I hope people won't be shocked if the rating slides down again...

The demo drop year over year for this show was a substantial drop. 0.42 down to 0.31. I assume some of that is the West Coast feed and some is due to last year’s show being more stacked.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Dec 16, 2021 19:20:56 GMT -5 polarbearpete said:

Dec 16, 2021 18:22:04 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

The show did well all things considered, west coast feed is still a factor, a ton of competition, and it still got top five and outdid last year. Year to year growth is very important.

Glad to see them get over a million for the home stretch of Hangman/Danielson and to see a lot of that viewership return by the end.

I'm sure there are some people online like always who will try and spin shit into a negative, but this is about as positve a result as you could get imo. Next week is Christmas week, so I hope people won't be shocked if the rating slides down again...

The demo drop year over year for this show was a substantial drop. 0.42 down to 0.31. I assume some of that is the West Coast feed and some is due to last year’s show being more stacked.

Moxley and Omega might also be a factor there. Moxley just historically moves a needle

[Dub H]

Pff,Wardlow got in 5 minutes what Bryan vs Omega needed one hour to get!...

Thats how it works right?

[flowercity]

I was playing around with my settings for YouTubeTV the other day and it seems as if my viewing is being tracked by Nielsen. I had the option to turn that off. I wonder if that’s the same for all YouTubeTV customers or just a select few? If it’s the former, seems as if the people who yap about ratings not counting streaming are wrong.

Anyways, I watched the Survivor finale live on Weds, had to catch Dynamite yesterday. So my bad if anyone is disappointed in the ratings.

[polarbearpete]

Dec 17, 2021 10:11:15 GMT -5 flowercity said:

I was playing around with my settings for YouTubeTV the other day and it seems as if my viewing is being tracked by Nielsen. I had the option to turn that off. I wonder if that’s the same for all YouTubeTV customers or just a select few? If it’s the former, seems as if the people who yap about ratings not counting streaming are wrong.

Anyways, I watched the Survivor finale live on Weds, had to catch Dynamite yesterday. So my bad if anyone is disappointed in the ratings.

I believe YouTubeTV and Hulu live views are tracked and may be counted in the traditional ratings numbers. They’re going to be revamping the whole system soon to try to more accurately measure streaming numbers.

[markymark]

[Cyno]

Dec 16, 2021 19:20:56 GMT -5 polarbearpete said:

Dec 16, 2021 18:22:04 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

The show did well all things considered, west coast feed is still a factor, a ton of competition, and it still got top five and outdid last year. Year to year growth is very important.

Glad to see them get over a million for the home stretch of Hangman/Danielson and to see a lot of that viewership return by the end.

I'm sure there are some people online like always who will try and spin shit into a negative, but this is about as positve a result as you could get imo. Next week is Christmas week, so I hope people won't be shocked if the rating slides down again...

The demo drop year over year for this show was a substantial drop. 0.42 down to 0.31. I assume some of that is the West Coast feed and some is due to last year’s show being more stacked.

And, as I pointed out earlier in the thread, more competition this year compared to last year. Last year's Winter Is Coming didn't have to deal with the NBA head-to-head.

[Deleted]

Dec 17, 2021 10:11:15 GMT -5 flowercity said:

I was playing around with my settings for YouTubeTV the other day and it seems as if my viewing is being tracked by Nielsen. I had the option to turn that off. I wonder if that’s the same for all YouTubeTV customers or just a select few? If it’s the former, seems as if the people who yap about ratings not counting streaming are wrong.

Anyways, I watched the Survivor finale live on Weds, had to catch Dynamite yesterday. So my bad if anyone is disappointed in the ratings.

Those of us that yap about that aren't wrong. And, with Nielsen ratings as a whole it's a "select few," even with traditional television ratings. The model has always been to take data from a small percentage of viewers and extrapolate that to total viewership.

Nielsen isn't the most transparent in how it obtains its data, but it has been measuring Amazon Prime Video, Disney+, Hulu, Netflix, YouTube, Tubi, Pluto TV, Comcast, Charter Spectrum and Sling, at least in some capacity as I understand it. That list obviously omits some fairly large streaming services such as DirecTV Stream and Fubo.

As others have said though, Nielsen has publicly acknowledged the general trend toward the prevalence of streaming services, and has announced an effort to better incorporate live streaming views into ratings numbers, so it may become a moot point moving forward.

I do think it needs to be said though that the complaint isn't that streaming views not being factored into ratings, somehow, handicaps AEW specifically, it's more that a potentially significant number of live streaming views not being factored into total viewership numbers cuts against the argument that the wrestling industry, as a whole, is hemorrhaging viewers because the total viewership is so much lower now than it was in, like, 2015. That's true of WWE and AEW.

[The Ichi]

It's cool that the opener got rising ratings as it went on. I always assume long matches are a turn-off to a lot of viewers no matter how good they are, so glad that's not the case here.

[Cyno]

Dec 17, 2021 15:44:09 GMT -5 @mattyphatty said:

Dec 17, 2021 10:11:15 GMT -5 flowercity said:

I was playing around with my settings for YouTubeTV the other day and it seems as if my viewing is being tracked by Nielsen. I had the option to turn that off. I wonder if that’s the same for all YouTubeTV customers or just a select few? If it’s the former, seems as if the people who yap about ratings not counting streaming are wrong.

Anyways, I watched the Survivor finale live on Weds, had to catch Dynamite yesterday. So my bad if anyone is disappointed in the ratings.

Those of us that yap about that aren't wrong. And, with Nielsen ratings as a whole it's a "select few," even with traditional television ratings. The model has always been to take data from a small percentage of viewers and extrapolate that to total viewership.

Nielsen isn't the most transparent in how it obtains its data, but it has been measuring Amazon Prime Video, Disney+, Hulu, Netflix, YouTube, Tubi, Pluto TV, Comcast, Charter Spectrum and Sling, at least in some capacity as I understand it. That list obviously omits some fairly large streaming services such as DirecTV Stream and Fubo.

As others have said though, Nielsen has publicly acknowledged the general trend toward the prevalence of streaming services, and has announced an effort to better incorporate live streaming views into ratings numbers, so it may become a moot point moving forward.

I do think it needs to be said though that the complaint isn't that streaming views not being factored into ratings, somehow, handicaps AEW specifically, it's more that a potentially significant number of live streaming views not being factored into total viewership numbers cuts against the argument that the wrestling industry, as a whole, is hemorrhaging viewers because the total viewership is so much lower now than it was in, like, 2015. That's true of WWE and AEW.

Yeah, Nielsen works like opinion polls basically: they use their sample size to extrapolate their numbers. Though I don't know if they ever publish any sort of margin of error for their results or not.