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Post by horsemen4ever on Dec 17, 2021 23:09:51 GMT -5
What do you think, would it have hurt either guy if Savage have had at least one IC title shot against Warrior in the fall of 89. Kayfabe wise, Savage loses the World title, has to rebuild himself and re establish himself as a contender, so going after the IC title even as a one off would make sense. That is what he did in 86, he said Tito and the IC title was a stepping stone to get to Hogan and the World title. So the same strategy here. "Warrior I am going to take your IC title, and than Hogan look out, I am coming after you next."
Of course Savage doesn't beat Warrior for the title, but a short program helps both guys up the ladder, even if it just a one off SNME match. Heck I would love a call back here, if Savage tried to use brace knucks on the Warrior, he does hit him with the brass knucks. Warrior kicks out at 2, and goes crazy like he does and delay no sell.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 17, 2021 23:20:47 GMT -5
Not sure it was 89, but Savage and Warrior had several IC title matches during Warrior's reign.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Dec 17, 2021 23:22:39 GMT -5
Not sure it was 89, but Savage and Warrior had several IC title matches during Warrior's reign. No that was early 89 when Savage was still World Champion. Could have been title for title, but probably just for the WWF title. |
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Post by fortknox on Dec 17, 2021 23:25:57 GMT -5
Not sure it was 89, but Savage and Warrior had several IC title matches during Warrior's reign. Yep.  |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 17, 2021 23:26:20 GMT -5
Not sure it was 89, but Savage and Warrior had several IC title matches during Warrior's reign. No that was early 89 when Savage was still World Champion. Could have been title for title, but probably just for the WWF title. Maybe. I know I have some old VHS tapes with Savage v. Warrior from, maybe MSG? Could swear it was the IC title. I'll take your word for it though. |
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Post by fg on Dec 18, 2021 13:48:12 GMT -5
I have the Wrestling Superheroes tape (the one with the Warrior & Savage on the front cover) and there is a match from MSG between those two with Rude interfering. On one of the Macho Man DVDs, they did the EXACT SAME match move for move, this time from a San Francisco taping. Both times, the Warrior was the IC champ and Savage was the WWE Champ.
This of course means that WWE was either lying or they were forgetful when they said that the WMVI main event was the first time the IC & World champions wrestled against each other.
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 18, 2021 13:55:20 GMT -5
I have the Wrestling Superheroes tape (the one with the Warrior & Savage on the front cover) and there is a match from MSG between those two with Rude interfering. On one of the Macho Man DVDs, they did the EXACT SAME match move for move, this time from a San Francisco taping. Both times, the Warrior was the IC champ and Savage was the WWE Champ. This of course means that WWE was either lying or they were forgetful when they said that the WMVI main event was the first time the IC & World champions wrestled against each other. Did they say that? Or the first time it was title for title? Because the latter almost happened between Hogan and Honky Tonk Man in 1988. Only then The Main Event happened, and they became I-C title matches. Did Savage get any title shots post-Feb '86 too? (though the I-C title wasn't up for grabs) |
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Dec 18, 2021 15:17:55 GMT -5
I don't think it would've been a good idea. Warrior would have to win as he was winning the World Title at Wrestlemania and sacrificing Savage to him would've been a mistake for several reasons. One they needed to rebuild Savage as a heel a bit as was just finished losing to Hogan and secondly if you have him lose to Warrior pre World Title win that eliminates a good possible World Title Challenger for Warrior. They were already lacking challengers for Warrior as it was since most of the heels had already been fed to him and Hogan the previous couple of years. Warrior and Savage was one of the few money matches they had in their back pocket they could go to along with Earthquake but they ended up feuding him with Hogan instead.
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Post by fg on Dec 18, 2021 16:20:21 GMT -5
I have the Wrestling Superheroes tape (the one with the Warrior & Savage on the front cover) and there is a match from MSG between those two with Rude interfering. On one of the Macho Man DVDs, they did the EXACT SAME match move for move, this time from a San Francisco taping. Both times, the Warrior was the IC champ and Savage was the WWE Champ. This of course means that WWE was either lying or they were forgetful when they said that the WMVI main event was the first time the IC & World champions wrestled against each other. Did they say that? Or the first time it was title for title? Because the latter almost happened between Hogan and Honky Tonk Man in 1988. Only then The Main Event happened, and they became I-C title matches. Did Savage get any title shots post-Feb '86 too? (though the I-C title wasn't up for grabs) I think they said it was the first time. I am not 100% sure though. I have the original hone video release of the event but I dubbed it to DVD and sold the VHS copy in 2006. |
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Post by horsemen4ever on Dec 18, 2021 17:57:38 GMT -5
I don't think it would've been a good idea. Warrior would have to win as he was winning the World Title at Wrestlemania and sacrificing Savage to him would've been a mistake for several reasons. One they needed to rebuild Savage as a heel a bit as was just finished losing to Hogan and secondly if you have him lose to Warrior pre World Title win that eliminates a good possible World Title Challenger for Warrior. They were already lacking challengers for Warrior as it was since most of the heels had already been fed to him and Hogan the previous couple of years. Warrior and Savage was one of the few money matches they had in their back pocket they could go to along with Earthquake but they ended up feuding him with Hogan instead. What about a one off SNME match, and Warrior win by DQ with Andre, or Bravo interfering. |
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Dec 18, 2021 17:59:57 GMT -5
I don't think it would've been a good idea. Warrior would have to win as he was winning the World Title at Wrestlemania and sacrificing Savage to him would've been a mistake for several reasons. One they needed to rebuild Savage as a heel a bit as was just finished losing to Hogan and secondly if you have him lose to Warrior pre World Title win that eliminates a good possible World Title Challenger for Warrior. They were already lacking challengers for Warrior as it was since most of the heels had already been fed to him and Hogan the previous couple of years. Warrior and Savage was one of the few money matches they had in their back pocket they could go to along with Earthquake but they ended up feuding him with Hogan instead. What about a one off SNME match, and Warrior win by DQ with Andre, or Bravo interfering. I think a one off with a non finish would've been fine. Wouldn't put them together in any kind of program though. |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 18, 2021 18:14:43 GMT -5
I have the Wrestling Superheroes tape (the one with the Warrior & Savage on the front cover) and there is a match from MSG between those two with Rude interfering. On one of the Macho Man DVDs, they did the EXACT SAME match move for move, this time from a San Francisco taping. Both times, the Warrior was the IC champ and Savage was the WWE Champ. This of course means that WWE was either lying or they were forgetful when they said that the WMVI main event was the first time the IC & World champions wrestled against each other. Now that you’ve mentioned the name, that’s the tape I had too. |
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Post by Ozman on Dec 18, 2021 20:37:56 GMT -5
I think Savage was in the World title picture for almost all of 89, outside of his King’s Crown matches with Duggan. Savage pretty much chased Hogan for the title until their last match at The Main Event in February of 1990 which Savage lost.
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Post by auph10imitated on Dec 20, 2021 21:21:16 GMT -5
Savage and Warrior had a handful of World vs IC matches in March 89 building to Mania, but other then this it really wasn’t needed because the Hogan vs Savage feud was so hot they could run that on the house show loop all year without it really cooling down which to be honest was a first for the Hulkamania era, from 84-87 Hogan switched the loops up by either facing his TV nemesis or facing a suitable heel challenger on the loop, 88 was different as it was Savage at the helm, by 89 they had a feud so hot they could easily run that match in every town for pretty much the entire year before winding it down and moving Hogan on. It was smart as they could build Warrior on the side a bit like they did with Savage in 1987.
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