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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 6, 2022 13:45:41 GMT -5
Without saying spoilers, I think doing it as a film was fine. Like, especially with what happens in it, it felt like a “epilogue” to some of the other stuff before. If anything, a Strange series following up on the events after the first movie might have worked better because, well, the film’s not about that. Well basically if you haven’t watched Wanda Vision, No Way Home and I assume Loki you are f***ed. Eeeeh, not really. They explain the Wandavision stuff alright, the NWH stuff is a throwaway line and Loki might as well not exist. Honestly, the movie’s biggest flaw is hyping it as this widespread world changing event when it’s more of a setup movie. Like, it feels like it puts the pieces down for other things and it’s fine in that regard, just not as advertised.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 6, 2022 13:48:03 GMT -5
Well basically if you haven’t watched Wanda Vision, No Way Home and I assume Loki you are f***ed. Eeeeh, not really. They explain the Wandavision stuff alright, the NWH stuff is a throwaway line and Loki might as well not exist. Honestly, the movie’s biggest flaw is hyping it as this widespread world changing event when it’s more of a setup movie. Like, it feels like it puts the pieces down for other things and it’s fine in that regard, just not as advertised. Got you so those big build ups don’t really play much into this outside of WandaVision and the movie itself is really a big set up for other things. It’s not the this is going to f*** things up movie that it looked like it was going to be or I should say people expected it to be
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Post by chazraps on May 6, 2022 13:50:38 GMT -5
I liked it, here's my spoiler-free review:
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 6, 2022 13:50:54 GMT -5
Got you so those big build ups don’t really play much into this outside of WandaVision and the movie itself is really a big set up for other things. It’s not the this is going to f*** things up movie that it looked like it was going to be or I should say people expected it to be Yeah, that’s a good way to put it. Tamper your expectations, enjoy some of the set pieces and references and you’ll be fine. It ain’t Endgame.
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Post by Fade on May 6, 2022 17:36:39 GMT -5
Question for those that saw it Would it have worked better as a series to flesh things out ? Now that you mention it..yes. Probably. {Spoiler}though I’m guessing some of the graphics would have suffered and the majority already aren’t..great. Who knows if you’d get certain appearances that way either.
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Post by Display Name on May 6, 2022 23:51:10 GMT -5
Loved the horror elements in this. My Lizzie Olsen crush is still going strong, man.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on May 7, 2022 2:25:38 GMT -5
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Post by lildude8218 on May 7, 2022 3:03:33 GMT -5
As soon as "it" happened... {Spoiler}Me: "Looks like we have our first-ever instance of Chekhov's Corpse now"
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2022 10:54:19 GMT -5
Question for those that saw it Would it have worked better as a series to flesh things out ? Now that you mention it..yes. Probably. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}though I’m guessing some of the graphics would have suffered and the majority already aren’t..great. Who knows if you’d get certain appearances that way either. I loved the film and probably would will see it again, but the America / Strange relationship felt underdeveloped.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2022 11:17:03 GMT -5
Saw it lastnight and absoloutley loved it and maybe it was just because it was my first viewing I did not feel any of the pacing issues that have been talked about maybe in the future that will stand out but initial viewing it was a very easy and fun watch. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}But this is total set up movie with all the talk about incursions....yea this is leading to a secret wars movie.
But my inner child officially lost his f***ing mind seeing Charlies Xavier in not just his green suit but the gawd damn actual yellow hover chair something I never thought they would ever do in live action , only thing missing was his animated counterparts weird ass evil eyebrows.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on May 7, 2022 11:21:49 GMT -5
Saw it lastnight and absoloutley loved it and maybe it was just because it was my first viewing I did not feel any of the pacing issues that have been talked about maybe in the future that will stand out but initial viewing it was a very easy and fun watch. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}But this is total set up movie with all the talk about incursions....yea this is leading to a secret wars movie.
But my inner child officially lost his f***ing mind seeing Charlies Xavier in not just his green suit but the gawd damn actual yellow hover chair something I never thought they would ever do in live action , only thing missing was his animated counterparts weird ass evil eyebrows. {Spoiler} cartoon Xavier did have some weird ass f***ing eyebrows didn’t he? In hindsight it kinda made him seem like a heel turn was coming at some point
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2022 11:29:00 GMT -5
Saw it lastnight and absoloutley loved it and maybe it was just because it was my first viewing I did not feel any of the pacing issues that have been talked about maybe in the future that will stand out but initial viewing it was a very easy and fun watch. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}But this is total set up movie with all the talk about incursions....yea this is leading to a secret wars movie.
But my inner child officially lost his f***ing mind seeing Charlies Xavier in not just his green suit but the gawd damn actual yellow hover chair something I never thought they would ever do in live action , only thing missing was his animated counterparts weird ass evil eyebrows. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} cartoon Xavier did have some weird ass f***ing eyebrows didn’t he? In hindsight it kinda made him seem like a heel turn was coming at some point {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Seriously this is a guy that is gonna feed the x-men to an incinirator at any moment lol.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on May 7, 2022 11:31:06 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} cartoon Xavier did have some weird ass f***ing eyebrows didn’t he? In hindsight it kinda made him seem like a heel turn was coming at some point {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Seriously this is a guy that is gonna feed the x-men to an incinirator at any moment lol. {Spoiler} Xavier comes across as such a douchebag in a lot of things. Patrick Stewart made him likable, but most of the time you’re like “what’s this motherf***ers angle?”
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Post by dav on May 7, 2022 12:30:56 GMT -5
It was good, but... {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Did not care for how they used the cameos, but this is a gripe that I generally have with multiverse stuff where they basically just use them as cannon fodder and doesn't feel like a good use of the character.
As for Wanda getting a potential redemption arc, she pretty much murdered an injured person crawling on their hands and knees to get away from her, as well as everything, gonna have to be a damn good one.
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Post by mattperiolat on May 7, 2022 15:03:47 GMT -5
It was good, but... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Did not care for how they used the cameos, but this is a gripe that I generally have with multiverse stuff where they basically just use them as cannon fodder and doesn't feel like a good use of the character.
As for Wanda getting a potential redemption arc, she pretty much murdered an injured person crawling on their hands and knees to get away from her, as well as everything, gonna have to be a damn good one. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Ah, let’s see… think there is a rule or clause here…
Found it. See Skywalker, Anakin.
Seriously, not being dismissive, Wanda was influenced by the Darkhold. Clearly, she wasn’t driving with both hands on the wheel. There’s your road back. Eventually. All things in time.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 7, 2022 15:19:26 GMT -5
It was good, but... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Did not care for how they used the cameos, but this is a gripe that I generally have with multiverse stuff where they basically just use them as cannon fodder and doesn't feel like a good use of the character.
As for Wanda getting a potential redemption arc, she pretty much murdered an injured person crawling on their hands and knees to get away from her, as well as everything, gonna have to be a damn good one. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Ah, let’s see… think there is a rule or clause here…
Found it. See Skywalker, Anakin.
Seriously, not being dismissive, Wanda was influenced by the Darkhold. Clearly, she wasn’t driving with both hands on the wheel. There’s your road back. Eventually. All things in time. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Yeah, I’m seeing a lot of people go “So why did Wanda do this?” and like…it’s pretty well established in the film why? Like you said, she’s influenced by the Darkhold, grieving the loss of the kids who never existed along with killing her husband and wants to find a place where she can see her kids regardless of costs.
The film has a lot of issues (like, again, how the f*** does destroying the Darkhold cave destroy the other Darkholds?) but that feels like the least of them? How it’s executed I’ll agree on.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2022 15:29:04 GMT -5
Concerning Wanda {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}If they are going to redeem here then IMO it has to begin with getting her in some way to fight CHTHON maybe in Doctor Strange 3 he fights it but realizes it is the source of Chaos Magic and Wanda returns and perhaps she saves Strange from ending up like she did preventing him from being taken by Chthon.
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Post by dav on May 7, 2022 15:42:27 GMT -5
It was good, but... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Did not care for how they used the cameos, but this is a gripe that I generally have with multiverse stuff where they basically just use them as cannon fodder and doesn't feel like a good use of the character.
As for Wanda getting a potential redemption arc, she pretty much murdered an injured person crawling on their hands and knees to get away from her, as well as everything, gonna have to be a damn good one. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Ah, let’s see… think there is a rule or clause here…
Found it. See Skywalker, Anakin.
Seriously, not being dismissive, Wanda was influenced by the Darkhold. Clearly, she wasn’t driving with both hands on the wheel. There’s your road back. Eventually. All things in time. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Probably not the best example to use, since I never considered Anakin really got redeemed and the whole story part was utterly botched from start to end. I'm not saying Wanda can't be redeemed, it's just that she'll need a really good one, better than Anakin's, although that's a damned low bar to clear.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 7, 2022 15:56:15 GMT -5
As soon as "it" happened... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Me: "Looks like we have our first-ever instance of Chekhov's Corpse now" {Spoiler}Didn't Saw 1 do that?
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on May 7, 2022 19:30:45 GMT -5
I just got back from seeing it, it was pretty fun. {Spoiler}Wanda’s heel turn I felt made sense, and I squealed when the 90s X-Men theme started playing.
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