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Post by Legion on May 8, 2022 9:34:48 GMT -5
Probably could have done with a bit more set up for America/Strange as a partnership. I didn't think it helped she was so 'nice' when her comic characterisation usually really isnt. Needed more sass, even if it was just front to hide the pain etc.
Loved the fan service elements. Loved all the references and call backs. Loved the teases for future movies/characters.
Definitely a bit messy and far from perfect, but thoroughly enjoyable. I may go and see it again before it leaves cinemas.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 8, 2022 13:56:01 GMT -5
Saw it, mostly liked it. Didn't see the "all over the place" criticisms though some things took me a while to keep track of/figure out. {Spoiler}{Spoiler} I knew Xavier was coming, but with the TAS theme? Markout moment.
They managed to make Wanda one of the stronger MCU villains in this one movie. (she struck me more as a face turned tweener in Wandavision). And the comment about showing mercy by sending monsters instead of her was badass. I must find a way to use this in my daily life.
On that topic...the slaughter of the Illuminati. I can't make up my mind as to whether or not this is on par with teasing Venom tying into the MCU/Sony Spider-Man movies, only to say...nah, we're taking it back (sort of). I'd ask if this was a retirement/burial of the Fox franchises, and oh yeah, the whole Inhumans bomb. But seeing as Reed was someone totally new...
Maybe I should repeat to myself it's just a multiverse, take it with a grain of salt.
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Post by chrom on May 8, 2022 16:22:11 GMT -5
450 million opening weekend
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 8, 2022 16:33:16 GMT -5
450 million opening weekend $185 million domestic. Seems likely Marvel have got another billion-dollar hit on their hands.
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Post by edgestar on May 8, 2022 17:02:21 GMT -5
Saw it this afternoon, and had a lot of fun!!!
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Post by Tenshigure on May 8, 2022 18:10:01 GMT -5
I enjoyed it for what it was, but every since Infinity War we’ve been getting quite a lot of character assassination in the original timeline. No spoilers, just hate the fact when you take a step back from variants of characters the story does those individuals no favors with how they end up.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 8, 2022 18:37:21 GMT -5
I enjoyed it for what it was, but every since Infinity War we’ve been getting quite a lot of character assassination in the original timeline. No spoilers, just hate the fact when you take a step back from variants of characters the story does those individuals no favors with how they end up. Character assassination?
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Post by Stu on May 8, 2022 18:48:33 GMT -5
That was a lot to take in. Is it safe to say this was the most violent MCU film/show? And, yes, it was certainly better than Eternals. First off, my trailers: Lightyear Jurassic Park Avatar Thor As for my thoughts: {Spoiler} Can't believe they pulled the trigger on John Krasinski playing Mr. Fantastic. The copout would be saying he's only playing a specific universe's version, but that would probably anger fans. It wouldn't be much different from the Evan Peters/Pietro/Boner swerve.
Had no idea that was Bruce Campbell until the end credits scene. Made sense because Raimi.
I need to know how the Illuminati ended up fighting Thanos.
The moment they mentioned Wundagore Mountain, I wondered if we'd get the High Evolutionary.
Wanda's minions looked like a cross between Man-Thing and Megatron.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2022 19:00:36 GMT -5
I really hope {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}the direction with a few tweeks here and there of course they are basically doing Hickmans avengers/new avengers run just because of the whole thing with incursions now.
We get Black Swan. Black Panther creating this universes Iluminati. The infinity stones coming back into play.
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Post by Display Name on May 8, 2022 20:44:16 GMT -5
That was a lot to take in. Is it safe to say this was the most violent MCU film/show? And, yes, it was certainly better than Eternals. First off, my trailers: Lightyear Jurassic Park Avatar Thor As for my thoughts: {Spoiler}{Spoiler} Can't believe they pulled the trigger on John Krasinski playing Mr. Fantastic. The copout would be saying he's only playing a specific universe's version, but that would probably anger fans. It wouldn't be much different from the Evan Peters/Pietro/Boner swerve.
Had no idea that was Bruce Campbell until the end credits scene. Made sense because Raimi.
I need to know how the Illuminati ended up fighting Thanos.
The moment they mentioned Wundagore Mountain, I wondered if we'd get the High Evolutionary.
Wanda's minions looked like a cross between Man-Thing and Megatron.
[/spoilers] Your thought on the mountain..that character is coming in a movie that just wrapped.
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Post by Sparvid on May 8, 2022 22:35:30 GMT -5
One thing that came to mind was Paul O'Brien's classic review of Chuck Austen's Draco storyline: Now, this movie wasn't quite that egregious, but still... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}If the conflict revolves around bad guy wanting a person with the unique powers of traveling between universes, then maybe not have that bad guy simply being able to travel between universes in pursuit of them? Sure, they throw in a line about how dreamwalking isn't a permanent solution, and that it requires an equivalent body to take over, but that seems to be the only downside of it.
Wouldn't it make more sense if dreamwalking through Darkhold meant that you could only be in the other universe for a minute or two before being thrown back? Or you only appeared in the astral plane and couldn't directly interact with anyone (other than subtly influencing demons in that world), so Wanda could see her children, but not talk to or touch them? That way she'd, you know, have a better motivation for being willing to do anything to get those powers in the first place.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 8, 2022 22:42:35 GMT -5
{Spoiler}If the conflict revolves around bad guy wanting a person with the unique powers of traveling between universes, then maybe not have that bad guy simply being able to travel between universes in pursuit of them? Sure, they throw in a line about how dreamwalking isn't a permanent solution, and that it requires an equivalent body to take over, but that seems to be the only downside of it.
Wouldn't it make more sense if dreamwalking through Darkhold meant that you could only be in the other universe for a minute or two before being thrown back? Or you only appeared in the astral plane and couldn't directly interact with anyone (other than subtly influencing demons in that world), so Wanda could see her children, but not talk to or touch them? That way she'd, you know, have a better motivation for being willing to do anything to get those powers in the first place. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Wanda wants to bring her children back with her. To do that she needs to physically travel between universes.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 9, 2022 2:59:30 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}If the conflict revolves around bad guy wanting a person with the unique powers of traveling between universes, then maybe not have that bad guy simply being able to travel between universes in pursuit of them? Sure, they throw in a line about how dreamwalking isn't a permanent solution, and that it requires an equivalent body to take over, but that seems to be the only downside of it.
Wouldn't it make more sense if dreamwalking through Darkhold meant that you could only be in the other universe for a minute or two before being thrown back? Or you only appeared in the astral plane and couldn't directly interact with anyone (other than subtly influencing demons in that world), so Wanda could see her children, but not talk to or touch them? That way she'd, you know, have a better motivation for being willing to do anything to get those powers in the first place. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Wanda wants to bring her children back with her. To do that she needs to physically travel between universes. {Spoiler}Yeah, again, the issues for me weren’t the fact that nothing like that was explained because it was, it was more just the pace of it I guess? Like Wanda’s intention was to find the universe she needed to go, take Chavez’s powers to get there and take out the other Wanda herself to do it.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 9, 2022 3:24:50 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Yeah, again, the issues for me weren’t the fact that nothing like that was explained because it was, it was more just the pace of it I guess? Like Wanda’s intention was to find the universe she needed to go, take Chavez’s powers to get there and take out the other Wanda herself to do it. While I do appreciate the relative brevity compared to most of Marvel's offerings lately, I feel like this movie could have used a bit more runtime to let things breathe a little.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 9, 2022 3:27:22 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Yeah, again, the issues for me weren’t the fact that nothing like that was explained because it was, it was more just the pace of it I guess? Like Wanda’s intention was to find the universe she needed to go, take Chavez’s powers to get there and take out the other Wanda herself to do it. While I do appreciate the relative brevity compared to most of Marvel's offerings lately, I feel like this movie could have used a bit more runtime to let things breathe a little. Oh, agreed. Like, it was one of the few movies where another 30 minutes might have helped.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 9, 2022 3:29:40 GMT -5
Oh, agreed. Like, it was one of the few movies where another 30 minutes might have helped. Raimi did say his initial cut was 160 minutes long, and it does feel like a movie that has had almost 35 minutes hacked out of it in final editing.
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Post by Heartbreaker on May 9, 2022 4:06:14 GMT -5
I absolutely would have loved if the movie was a little longer but tbh I was already holding in my pee during the second half. Maybe I shouldn't have went for a medium Coke this time...
Movies with post-credits are gonna be the cause of Millennials having bladder problems in our later years.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 9, 2022 10:20:35 GMT -5
Saw it, mostly liked it. Didn't see the "all over the place" criticisms though some things took me a while to keep track of/figure out. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} I knew Xavier was coming, but with the TAS theme? Markout moment.
They managed to make Wanda one of the stronger MCU villains in this one movie. (she struck me more as a face turned tweener in Wandavision). And the comment about showing mercy by sending monsters instead of her was badass. I must find a way to use this in my daily life.
On that topic...the slaughter of the Illuminati. I can't make up my mind as to whether or not this is on par with teasing Venom tying into the MCU/Sony Spider-Man movies, only to say...nah, we're taking it back (sort of). I'd ask if this was a retirement/burial of the Fox franchises, and oh yeah, the whole Inhumans bomb. But seeing as Reed was someone totally new...
Maybe I should repeat to myself it's just a multiverse, take it with a grain of salt.
Also... {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}(And a bit more petty, so dunno how likely, but...burying a Captain Marvel character for being more interesting than Carol, LOL)
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Post by chrom on May 9, 2022 10:23:16 GMT -5
I absolutely would have loved if the movie was a little longer but tbh I was already holding in my pee during the second half. Maybe I shouldn't have went for a medium Coke this time... Movies with post-credits are gonna be the cause of Millennials having bladder problems in our later years. You always go whether you have to or not before you watch a movie
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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 9, 2022 11:21:25 GMT -5
I enjoyed it for what it was, but every since Infinity War we’ve been getting quite a lot of character assassination in the original timeline. No spoilers, just hate the fact when you take a step back from variants of characters the story does those individuals no favors with how they end up. Character assassination? I wonder if this post is referring to.... Scarlet Witch's entire arc {Spoiler} which does take a darker turn in this movie A lot of F&WS being about how Steve wasn't perfect, too, immediately came to mind.
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