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Post by Feyrhausen on May 9, 2022 11:55:04 GMT -5
I wonder if this post is referring to.... Scarlet Witch's entire arc {Spoiler}{Spoiler} which does take a darker turn in this movie A lot of F&WS being about how Steve wasn't perfect, too, immediately came to mind. I dont recall much negative about Steve. The closest was that he was maybe too idealistic or naive in not understanding how some people might feel about him asking Sam to be his successor. Even Zemo acknowledged that Steve was possibly the only man good enough to not be corrupted by the serum.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on May 9, 2022 12:37:04 GMT -5
I wonder if this post is referring to.... Scarlet Witch's entire arc {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} which does take a darker turn in this movie A lot of F&WS being about how Steve wasn't perfect, too, immediately came to mind. I dont recall much negative about Steve. The closest was that he was maybe too idealistic or naive in not understanding how some people might feel about him asking Sam to be his successor. Even Zemo acknowledged that Steve was possibly the only man good enough to not be corrupted by the serum. From what I remember the knock on Steve Rogers was that he was so pure hearted and idealistic that he didn’t recognize the corruption and evil around him. He was blind to the shittyness of humanity
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Post by Tenshigure on May 9, 2022 12:59:00 GMT -5
This was too good not to share:
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 9, 2022 12:59:48 GMT -5
This was too good not to share: …yeah, none of that is wrong.
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Post by lildude8218 on May 9, 2022 16:45:46 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Imagine if Wanda had one last "hail Mary" play up her sleeve and had said "No More Multiverse" and that's how they brought X-Men and Fantastic Four (amongst others) into the MCU[/spoilers]
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Post by Glitch on May 9, 2022 17:30:03 GMT -5
I watched it last night. It was a lot of fun. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}When it comes to the Illuminati facing off against Wanda, I had confused feelings. I wanted Wanda to lose but at the same time I liked that those smug group of people got their asses handed to them.
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Post by Fade on May 9, 2022 17:31:10 GMT -5
Language obviously. I was shocked they watched it but the Raimi-Jay connection. I laughed my ass off at {Spoiler}Mike getting ptsd from seeing Stewart from Picard. When he came out all I could really think was “hes SO ollldd” from the plinkett picard review. Mike confusing white women and “no one wants to sit in the Bryan singer chair” was funny too. They brought up a good point bout Wandas turn being direct if you haven’t seen Wandavision but I watched it. I bought it.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on May 9, 2022 17:46:40 GMT -5
I dont recall much negative about Steve. The closest was that he was maybe too idealistic or naive in not understanding how some people might feel about him asking Sam to be his successor. Even Zemo acknowledged that Steve was possibly the only man good enough to not be corrupted by the serum. From what I remember the knock on Steve Rogers was that he was so pure hearted and idealistic that he didn’t recognize the corruption and evil around him. He was blind to the shittyness of humanity Yeah, Steve at worst could be either naive or stubborn. That’s totally different from Wanda going Beast Mode in this.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 9, 2022 17:54:10 GMT -5
OK re: the {Spoiler} Illuminati Slaughter...
Now I read complaints/theories that it was Marvel undermining its fanbase by burying their fan favorite casting choices. Except Black Bolt, I presume.
No Marvel, don't go all us vs. them WWE Style on us...
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 9, 2022 18:59:53 GMT -5
OK re: the {Spoiler} Illuminati Slaughter...
Now I read complaints/theories that it was Marvel undermining its fanbase by burying their fan favorite casting choices. Except Black Bolt, I presume.
No Marvel, don't go all us vs. them WWE Style on us... {Spoiler}The popular fan casting for Black Bolt is Vin Diesel, but Anson Mount definitely has his supporters.
I think Krasinski at the very least is a case of Marvel testing the waters to see how well he's received. Marvel have been pretty good about bringing in fan favourites for roles thus far, so I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 9, 2022 19:56:11 GMT -5
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Post by Stu on May 9, 2022 22:36:06 GMT -5
I watched it last night. It was a lot of fun. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}When it comes to the Illuminati facing off against Wanda, I had confused feelings. I wanted Wanda to lose but at the same time I liked that those smug group of people got their asses handed to them. It's the closest thing we'd get to an MCU version of {Spoiler}Order 66
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on May 9, 2022 22:56:39 GMT -5
From what I remember the knock on Steve Rogers was that he was so pure hearted and idealistic that he didn’t recognize the corruption and evil around him. He was blind to the shittyness of humanity Yeah, Steve at worst could be either naive or stubborn. That’s totally different from Wanda going Beast Mode in this. In hindsight, they made an entire movie about his naivety. Winter Soldier was heavily focused on him not seeing shit happening around him
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 9, 2022 23:26:42 GMT -5
Yeah, Steve at worst could be either naive or stubborn. That’s totally different from Wanda going Beast Mode in this. In hindsight, they made an entire movie about his naivety. Winter Soldier was heavily focused on him not seeing shit happening around him Steve's personal philosophy is very much black and white, so naturally he struggles when presented with people and situations that are shades of grey, which is what makes Winter Soldier so effective a story. Fury, Natasha, Sharon, and Hill are every bit as morally grey as Pierce, Rumlow, and Sitwell, even if their goals are more nobly-intentioned than Hydra's.
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Post by thechase on May 10, 2022 5:40:04 GMT -5
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Post by mrtuesday on May 10, 2022 6:27:06 GMT -5
If you think MoM ignored the events of WandaVision, then you didn't pay attention to either.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 10, 2022 6:51:39 GMT -5
If you think MoM ignored the events of WandaVision, then you didn't pay attention to either. Yeah, why are we making up problems the film when, as someone who did watch it, it blatantly followed up on the events of WandaVision and tied them to Infinity War and Endgame. If anything, {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}it didn't follow up at all with the end of the first Doctor Strange, which seems like a more glaring issue personally.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2022 7:28:25 GMT -5
Having watched both WandaVision and Doctor Strange 2, yeah that articles some straight up clickbait. Your chase for dumping on Marvel is not successful today. And yeah, the actual thing to dump on them for is that the whole Mordo stuff from the end of Doctor Strange 1 has been seemingly abandoned.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 10, 2022 7:45:20 GMT -5
Having watched both WandaVision and Doctor Strange 2, yeah that articles some straight up clickbait. Your chase for dumping on Marvel is not successful today. And yeah, the actual thing to dump on them for is that the whole Mordo stuff from the end of Doctor Strange 1 has been seemingly abandoned. I just want more Chiwetel Ejiofor, to be quite blunt.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2022 8:05:29 GMT -5
Having watched both WandaVision and Doctor Strange 2, yeah that articles some straight up clickbait. Your chase for dumping on Marvel is not successful today. And yeah, the actual thing to dump on them for is that the whole Mordo stuff from the end of Doctor Strange 1 has been seemingly abandoned. I just want more Chiwetel Ejiofor, to be quite blunt. I mean what rational person wouldn't?
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