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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 10, 2022 8:15:54 GMT -5
What WAS {Spoiler} exactly Wanda's quote again about mercy being her sending monsters instead of herself? Not even IMDB transcribed it yet.
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Post by Feyrhausen on May 10, 2022 9:04:16 GMT -5
Having watched both WandaVision and Doctor Strange 2, yeah that articles some straight up clickbait. Your chase for dumping on Marvel is not successful today. And yeah, the actual thing to dump on them for is that the whole Mordo stuff from the end of Doctor Strange 1 has been seemingly abandoned. He is correct that the MCU is not as meticulously planned as some people say. But some people also claim that George Lucas had the prequels written in 1976. The do have to fly by the seat of their pants sometimes to make things work and sometimes things are off. Especially with the delays and schedule changes thanks to COVID. I think they have done a remarkable job keeping most things consistent.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2022 9:26:10 GMT -5
Having watched both WandaVision and Doctor Strange 2, yeah that articles some straight up clickbait. Your chase for dumping on Marvel is not successful today. And yeah, the actual thing to dump on them for is that the whole Mordo stuff from the end of Doctor Strange 1 has been seemingly abandoned. He is correct that the MCU is not as meticulously planned as some people say. But some people also claim that George Lucas had the prequels written in 1976. The do have to fly by the seat of their pants sometimes to make things work and sometimes things are off. Especially with the delays and schedule changes thanks to COVID. I think they have done a remarkable job keeping most things consistent. I think that's all true, the idea that it's meticulously planned out is silly, hence acknowledging the issues with Mordo. But that particular argument is weak, without merit and usable only by bad faith actors or the terminally stupid.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 10, 2022 9:29:42 GMT -5
He is correct that the MCU is not as meticulously planned as some people say. But some people also claim that George Lucas had the prequels written in 1976. The do have to fly by the seat of their pants sometimes to make things work and sometimes things are off. Especially with the delays and schedule changes thanks to COVID. I think they have done a remarkable job keeping most things consistent. I think that's all true, the idea that it's meticulously planned out is silly, hence acknowledging the issues with Mordo. But that particular argument is weak, without merit and usable only by bad faith actors or the terminally stupid. Yeah, I feel like we don't talk enough about how COVID affected some stuff. Like, I know the ending of WandaVision was flat but the literal reason was "They couldn't do half of what they wanted because COVID". They didn't overtly say as much but...like, come on now.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2022 9:34:32 GMT -5
I think that's all true, the idea that it's meticulously planned out is silly, hence acknowledging the issues with Mordo. But that particular argument is weak, without merit and usable only by bad faith actors or the terminally stupid. Yeah, I feel like we don't talk enough about how COVID affected some stuff. Like, I know the ending of WandaVision was flat but the literal reason was "They couldn't do half of what they wanted because COVID". They didn't overtly say as much but...like, come on now. Oh yes, Kat Dennings appearing just as a out of focus figure and a piece of dialogue that was clearly recording down the phone, I'm sure that was the original idea .
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 10, 2022 9:39:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I feel like we don't talk enough about how COVID affected some stuff. Like, I know the ending of WandaVision was flat but the literal reason was "They couldn't do half of what they wanted because COVID". They didn't overtly say as much but...like, come on now. Oh yes, Kat Dennings appearing just as a out of focus figure and a piece of dialogue that was clearly recording down the phone, I'm sure that was the original idea . Clearly. You know that Kevin Feige, setting up a future Disney+ series where they bring in Life Model Decoys to the MCU. Duh.
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Post by Convoy on May 10, 2022 11:20:42 GMT -5
Sites like TheDirect and CosmicBookNews should be banned from discussion. Those are just fanboy rage clickbait sites.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 10, 2022 13:12:00 GMT -5
Sites like TheDirect and CosmicBookNews should be banned from discussion. Those are just fanboy rage clickbait sites. The latter of which is currently trying to push the narrative that this movie, the movie that has made half a billion worldwide in its first week, is underperforming.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 10, 2022 13:14:40 GMT -5
Sites like TheDirect and CosmicBookNews should be banned from discussion. Those are just fanboy rage clickbait sites. The latter of which is currently trying to push the narrative that this movie, the movie that has made half a billion worldwide in its first week, is underperforming. I mean, if you ignore that it’s already made double its reported budget back and then some, sure, you could say it underperformed. Like, I think people who go “Well it made this much money” as a defense is stupid and doesn’t say what you think it does but we know how movie executives estimate a success at this point. We’re not dumb.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 10, 2022 14:41:42 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Also: {Spoiler}{Spoiler} But... {Spoiler}WHAT ABOUT MEPHISTO??
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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 10, 2022 14:42:41 GMT -5
I love how... {Spoiler}{Spoiler} a lot of people call Wanda's heel turn Character Derailment. But don't forget...EVIL BOOK.
Ain't the first person now under Disney's umbrella to look to dark influences to protect their loved ones too.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 10, 2022 14:54:14 GMT -5
Possible theory... {Spoiler} When X-Men '97 premieres, Charles' death/disappearance from the series is retconned by this to be caused by 616 Wanda instead.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 10, 2022 21:16:54 GMT -5
Just came back from it. Absolutely loved it. It was 100% a Sam Raimi film... the only thing missing (that I saw) was Sam tormenting his little brother Ted somehow... I've seen some one complaining you need to watch teh shows to understand what's going on and ... you really don't? it adds context but the Movie pretty much goes over what you need to know pretty well... {Spoiler}and yeah, Wanda's life has basically been chasing any kind of happiness... look at how every single thing she's been in ended... she's either being experimented on, lost a loved one, or a fugitive...
so she's not in the best mental state and the Darkholde written by the first demon that corrupts anyone that reads from it has an easy way in to fully corrupt her... her fingers are ashen black from how much she's used it before even getting to Kamar-Taj.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 10, 2022 21:35:27 GMT -5
{Spoiler}and yeah, Wanda's life has basically been chasing any kind of happiness... look at how every single thing she's been in ended... she's either being experimented on, lost a loved one, or a fugitive...
so she's not in the best mental state and the Darkholde written by the first demon that corrupts anyone that reads from it has an easy way in to fully corrupt her... her fingers are ashen black from how much she's used it before even getting to Kamar-Taj. {Spoiler}Even if you've only got the cliffnotes of her history it should be ample reason for why she went off the deep end.
Parents? Killed in a missile attack right in front of her.
Twin brother? Killed by Ultron.
Friends? Half of them sided with the government against her.
Lover? Forced to kill him herself to save half the universe, only for time to get turned back and then forced to watch him die again.
Children? Figments of her imagination made tangible that she then had to erase when she realised she was holding an entire town hostage.
That's a lot of pain and heartbreak for one person to carry even before she got her hands on the book of ultimate evil.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on May 10, 2022 22:08:29 GMT -5
Saw it lastnight and absoloutley loved it and maybe it was just because it was my first viewing I did not feel any of the pacing issues that have been talked about maybe in the future that will stand out but initial viewing it was a very easy and fun watch. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}But this is total set up movie with all the talk about incursions....yea this is leading to a secret wars movie.
But my inner child officially lost his f***ing mind seeing Charlies Xavier in not just his green suit but the gawd damn actual yellow hover chair something I never thought they would ever do in live action , only thing missing was his animated counterparts weird ass evil eyebrows. {Spoiler}It might've been just me, but I think they played a variation of the 90s X-Men cartoon theme when he rolled up on the scene.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 10, 2022 22:19:00 GMT -5
{Spoiler}It might've been just me, but I think they played a variation of the 90s X-Men cartoon theme when he rolled up on the scene. Yup.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 10, 2022 23:05:19 GMT -5
Saw it lastnight and absoloutley loved it and maybe it was just because it was my first viewing I did not feel any of the pacing issues that have been talked about maybe in the future that will stand out but initial viewing it was a very easy and fun watch. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}But this is total set up movie with all the talk about incursions....yea this is leading to a secret wars movie.
But my inner child officially lost his f***ing mind seeing Charlies Xavier in not just his green suit but the gawd damn actual yellow hover chair something I never thought they would ever do in live action , only thing missing was his animated counterparts weird ass evil eyebrows. {Spoiler} AND THE ANIMATED MUSIC STING!
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Post by Rolent Tex on May 11, 2022 0:39:03 GMT -5
Oh yes, Kat Dennings appearing just as a out of focus figure and a piece of dialogue that was clearly recording down the phone, I'm sure that was the original idea . Clearly. You know that Kevin Feige, setting up a future Disney+ series where they bring in Life Model Decoys to the MCU. Duh. Well I would be willing to bet good money that there’s a LMD in Secret Invasion.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 11, 2022 0:39:38 GMT -5
Clearly. You know that Kevin Feige, setting up a future Disney+ series where they bring in Life Model Decoys to the MCU. Duh. Well I would be willing to bet good money that there’s a LMD in Secret Invasion. Your logic has NO room in this conversation, get out of here!
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Post by Stu on May 11, 2022 12:05:28 GMT -5
It’s absolutely necessary to watch WandaVision before this because {Spoiler}Jimmy Woo makes an appearance 😉[\spoiler]
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