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Post by darbus alan on Dec 27, 2021 21:42:07 GMT -5
This is bad. This is Cameron bad! Hell, it maybe worse. At least Cameron’s bad pin was funny to watch. This is just sad. there's also a chance that Cameron's pin was on purpose, for Total Divas drama or something... (as I believe it was mentioned there.) I've seen some of Ariane's matches outside of WWE since and while I wouldn't call her a great worker or anything, she's at least mostly competent.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 27, 2021 21:43:43 GMT -5
So tonight they put him in a match with AJ. And then they took him out of a match with AJ.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 27, 2021 21:52:46 GMT -5
So tonight they put him in a match with AJ. And then they took him out of a match with AJ. And he just got chumped out by AJ. Look at that rocket push soaring towards the sky, hm?
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 27, 2021 21:55:25 GMT -5
I'm going to need to see the GIF of him forgetting to sell the Phenomenal Forearm immediately.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 27, 2021 21:55:33 GMT -5
He got hit with the Phenominal Forearm, flopped around like a fish, suddenly got up and charged AJ again, and then AJ had to punch him down, and looked absolutely pissed afterwards
This dude has been under WWE's developmental system for SIX. YEARS. What an outright embarrassment. I don't see him lasting much longer... just what a dumbass. I'm astounded at how he can't do anything correctly. It's like he's an alien who was beamed here a week ago and was told to wrestle without being told how to do it.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 27, 2021 21:56:48 GMT -5
By the sounds of it, even though he became a meme overnight for sucking, I guess he didn't get the memo that tonight he needed to not suck?
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 27, 2021 22:03:17 GMT -5
Even WWE's upload of it couldn't manage to completely cut him no-selling it because he just did it immediately.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 27, 2021 22:04:19 GMT -5
The funny thing to consider is that basically all of Vince McMahon's runs of greatest success as a promoter have revolved around him, well, promoting established wrestlers who were either already famous (Hulk Hogan, various 80s guys who were territorial champions) or who were already experienced TV wrestlers (Austin, Taker, Foley, Triple H) to varying levels of notoriety.
There've been a few exceptions in there (e.g. Rock starting pretty damn early with WWF), but Vince and building someone from the ground up just doesn't seem to be the best combination.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 27, 2021 22:19:18 GMT -5
The funny thing to consider is that basically all of Vince McMahon's runs of greatest success as a promoter have revolved around him, well, promoting established wrestlers who were either already famous (Hulk Hogan, various 80s guys who were territorial champions) or who were already experienced TV wrestlers (Austin, Taker, Foley, Triple H) to varying levels of notoriety. There've been a few exceptions in there (e.g. Rock starting pretty damn early with WWF), but Vince and building someone from the ground up just doesn't seem to be the best combination. Dwayne is basically the exception that proves the rule at this point.
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Post by Chiral on Dec 27, 2021 22:26:40 GMT -5
WHERE THE F*** IS THE GIF OF HIM BOTCHING NOT ONLY STAYING DOWN FOR A FINISHER BUT ALSO FOR THAT SLOW MOVING WHATEVER ATTACK HE ATTEMPTED IN THE GENERAL DIRECTION OF AJ Dude also got benched in the middle of a commercial break that's impressive COMMANDER AZEEZ: FAN'S NEW FAVORITE WRESTLER
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 27, 2021 22:29:25 GMT -5
The funny thing to consider is that basically all of Vince McMahon's runs of greatest success as a promoter have revolved around him, well, promoting established wrestlers who were either already famous (Hulk Hogan, various 80s guys who were territorial champions) or who were already experienced TV wrestlers (Austin, Taker, Foley, Triple H) to varying levels of notoriety. There've been a few exceptions in there (e.g. Rock starting pretty damn early with WWF), but Vince and building someone from the ground up just doesn't seem to be the best combination. and even like his hand picked guys like Orton usually get eclipsed by other people... like Cena for instance (who is still mostly homegrown but still)
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 27, 2021 22:34:51 GMT -5
COMMANDER AZEEZ: FAN'S NEW FAVORITE WRESTLER I've been having fun cracking jokes about him for months as it is. There's just something inherently goofy about his... everything.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 27, 2021 22:44:24 GMT -5
COMMANDER AZEEZ: FAN'S NEW FAVORITE WRESTLER I've been having fun cracking jokes about him for months as it is. There's just something inherently goofy about his... everything. The best thing you can be is good. The second best thing you can be is bad in an interesting way.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 27, 2021 22:57:28 GMT -5
I've been having fun cracking jokes about him for months as it is. There's just something inherently goofy about his... everything. The best thing you can be is good. The second best thing you can be is bad in an interesting way. Yeah, one of the worst things you can be in wrestling is Boring.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 27, 2021 22:57:36 GMT -5
And yeah, on this clip I can only assume that he thought he was screwing up pinning towards the hard camera and overcompensated, and for some reason completely lost the plot on where he was.
Even so, this shit should be automatic for a wrestler you've had in your system and built "from scratch" for six @#$%ing years. To repeat what I said in another thread and what others are saying here, what is even the point of having a training and performance center if you keep bringing people up who can't even do the bare essentials of working in pro wrestling?
Japanese dojo systems spent years with a well-earned negative reputation for physical abuse, but in recent years many have cleaned those reputations up (always remember: Hiroshi Tanahashi helped save New Japan both in the ring *and* out of it), and you know what? Trainees out of the NJPW, NOAH, etc. dojos still come out really, really, really good at wrestling, since they're told from day one how to train to have the body, musculature, and cardio conditioning for wrestling and drilled on actual wrestling technique and basics before they're allowed to do anything else.
But they don't do enough forward rolls, so maybe they're just wrong or something.
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Post by Squirrel Master on Dec 27, 2021 23:00:08 GMT -5
Any wonder why Bret Hart is known as The Excellence of Execution?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 23:03:02 GMT -5
Tonight, the fact he not only didn't sell AJ's finisher but the fact he tried to attack him afterwards and AJ had to punch him back to the ground with a regular punch. Not his finisher, but a regular punch. AJ Styles. Like, no. This is beyond just being uncoordinated, dude didn't even stick to the plan he was given and he made AJ look worse.
He's terrible.
I haven't seen a male member of the roster this bad in a very long time.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 27, 2021 23:04:27 GMT -5
Any wonder why Bret Hart is known as The Excellence of Execution? Commander Azeez, the Excrement of Execution.
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Post by FHgrad99 on Dec 27, 2021 23:34:39 GMT -5
I'm sure AJ Styles is glad that he didn't have to try to carry Azeez to anything remotely watchable.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 23:38:51 GMT -5
hashtagdaley/JudasDay will be having the last laugh when Azeez wins the Rumble and in the main event of WM!
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