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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Jan 21, 2022 14:24:10 GMT -5
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Post by Ganon83 on Jan 21, 2022 14:30:38 GMT -5
Do not agree to a contract with WWE (unless it's them or the indies) should be the lesson learned here.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 21, 2022 14:38:35 GMT -5
Business, I believe, is about to pick up. Keeng.
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Post by Fade on Jan 21, 2022 14:44:18 GMT -5
My Man! Lmfao, send a message bro.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2022 15:05:00 GMT -5
Ali about to start a Twitch channel and watch all of One Piece for the next year. 4 episodes a day. Vince can't stop the Strawhats.
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Post by 4real on Jan 21, 2022 15:10:08 GMT -5
This mindset is so baffling.
Hey you think he’s valuable and think he can do well elsewhere? Cool push him then.
You think it looks bad if you release him? But cutting over a hundred people in 2 years and constantly hearing stories of workers being unhappy is a good look?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2022 15:22:34 GMT -5
Yep, so the game plan here is to kill all of the momentum from this, and for him, then release him. Such a perceivably evil thing to do that it's almost impressive.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 21, 2022 15:26:05 GMT -5
Douchebags. Release the dude. F***ing doichebags
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 21, 2022 15:35:53 GMT -5
Ali about to start a Twitch channel and watch all of One Piece for the next year. 4 episodes a day. Vince can't stop the Strawhats. If he says anything bad about it he'd have to stay with WWE to help ensure Minoru Suzuki doesn't come after him.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 21, 2022 15:48:16 GMT -5
Yep, so the game plan here is to kill all of the momentum from this, and for him, then release him. Such a perceivably evil thing to do that it's almost impressive. The sad thing is, Neville/PAC proved this really doesn't work, yet they are trying it again. If anything, he's likely to be an even bigger commodity because he's essentially a martyr now.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Jan 21, 2022 15:50:35 GMT -5
So we are back to "hold every midcarder with your life" mode again? Got it.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 21, 2022 15:51:54 GMT -5
This mindset is so baffling. Hey you think he’s valuable and think he can do well elsewhere? Cool push him then. You think it looks bad if you release him? But cutting over a hundred people in 2 years and constantly hearing stories of workers being unhappy is a good look? Even when they were hoarding it never made sense. You’re paying people’s flights and such to come and sit in catering or wrestle on the shows you won’t promote or sit at home and not be able to do much for themselves all because you’re scared they might do well somewhere else? If they do well somewhere else, you can bring them back as stars and help your product out a bit since you desperately need stars. If they don’t, well, you’ve saved several thousands of dollars. I don’t know what the real downside is besides ego.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jan 21, 2022 15:58:52 GMT -5
Ali about to start a Twitch channel and watch all of One Piece for the next year. 4 episodes a day. Vince can't stop the Strawhats. He's gotta go slow. Once Usopp starts thinking about leaving, time to start letting them sink in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2022 16:49:35 GMT -5
Given the type of wrestlers Vince favors presentation wise he probably worries about Ali and Jeff going to AEW close to each other more so than he ever did about Danielson and Punk.
He won’t push/release Ali for personal reasons, Saudi tweets, rejecting a Hassan type gimmick, quitting by Twitter, Retribution failure (harsh maybe The Rock, Foley or an at his peak Jericho could have got such a silly faction over, it’s certainly beyond most talents!). He is well aware of his talent and potential.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2022 17:23:11 GMT -5
He definitely won't be "turning down" if that makes any sense. He's been vocal in the past so surely he'll be more vocal now. He's too good to be held back. Even his Twitter posts lately have been showing him wrestling.
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Post by nisidhe on Jan 21, 2022 17:30:32 GMT -5
Do not agree to a contract with WWE (unless it's them or the indies) should be the lesson learned here. I think the lesson nowadays is "don't go to WWE." Full stop.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 21, 2022 17:55:55 GMT -5
Wretched company run by morally and creatively bankrupt douchebags.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jan 21, 2022 18:34:02 GMT -5
On the plus side, now Ali can brag that Vince McMahon thinks he'd bring more value to the competition than Bray Wyatt, Braun Strowman, Keith Lee, and plenty of others.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 21, 2022 18:35:38 GMT -5
On the plus side, now Ali can brag that Vince McMahon thinks he'd bring more value to the competition than Bray Wyatt, Braun Strowman, Keith Lee, and plenty of others. Or that he's likely to talk about where the bodies are buried than any of those guys.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 21, 2022 18:39:33 GMT -5
The guy who fixed my sink is an independent contractor. I refuse to release him. In your defense, it's a *really* good hug.
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