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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2022 18:29:19 GMT -5
Danielson is a big fan so he’d probably get picked up by AEW if he’s interested. Impact would give him a more instant push but it appears like he wants more creative control. Twitter statement implies he has a bit of time left as if it was expiring he’d just keep quiet and run down the clock, making it public means he wants to push WWE into granting his wish for good PR. Which could work, could completely backfire, depends what mood Vince is in.
If Hollywood then all the best but hope he’s realistic that it’s going to be starting from zero. Rock and Batista were bigger names with more charisma (and Rock was in some stinkers for his first few years) and when Marvel or DC get around to casting their first Desi superhero they’re probably going to cast someone from Bollywood to get a billion extra eyes on the film.
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Post by papagiorgio on Jan 16, 2022 18:38:04 GMT -5
He never really got over with fans in general. WWE could have done a few things differently and the injuries didn't help, but he was never going to be a main eventer. I wish him luck, but can't say I'll particularly miss him.
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Post by Andee9001 on Jan 16, 2022 18:39:23 GMT -5
Guy is super talented. Was one of my favourites to watch when he got the chance. His work on 205 Live was incredible. He had some pretty good matches with Cedric, Drew Gulak and Buddy Murphy.
Could have been a huge babyface. Hopefully he'll have success outside the WWE.
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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Jan 16, 2022 18:43:06 GMT -5
Ali is too talented to be doing nothing like WWE had him doing.
Get it up you Vince. It’s way past time for the old man to be put out to pasture.
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Post by 06vwgti on Jan 16, 2022 18:45:53 GMT -5
Danielson is a big fan so he’d probably get picked up by AEW if he’s interested. Impact would give him a more instant push but it appears like he wants more creative control. Twitter statement implies he has a bit of time left as if it was expiring he’d just keep quiet and run down the clock, making it public means he wants to push WWE into granting his wish for good PR. Which could work, could completely backfire, depends what mood Vince is in. If Hollywood then all the best but hope he’s realistic that it’s going to be starting from zero. Rock and Batista were bigger names with more charisma (and Rock was in some stinkers for his first few years) and when Marvel or DC get around to casting their first Desi superhero they’re probably going to cast someone from Bollywood to get a billion extra eyes on the film. I think Marvel/Disney might do what they did with Shang Chi and have their main character American or Canadian born but have some of the supporting cast, someone known from Bollywood. A lot of the movement of having under-represented groups. Someone like Ali has a lot of thePR qualities you'd want for that role, just needs more social media buzz to get him cast.
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Post by hbkid718 on Jan 16, 2022 18:46:44 GMT -5
I get all your points. Yes, T-Bar's not on Raw and nobody watches Main Event, but it's not like he's not being used at all. If I was a wrestler, I rather be on Main Event & be watched by a few people than sit in catering and not being seen at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2022 18:48:40 GMT -5
What a waste of talent. I don't blame him one bit.
He could've been a really strong babyface for them, but they kept trying to make him Muhammad Hassan.
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Post by eJm on Jan 16, 2022 19:01:22 GMT -5
He never really got over with fans in general. WWE could have done a few things differently and the injuries didn't help, but he was never going to be a main eventer. I wish him luck, but can't say I'll particularly miss him. I mean, the idea that he had to be a main eventer isn’t really the point? Like, this stuff comes up and it sort of says a lot about the culture of WWE and what the fans take from it that we expect the person we want to be a main eventer or they might as well be nothing which goes against how someone like Hacksaw Jim Duggan or Crash Holly or the freakin Oddities were as over as they were despite being nowhere near the main event scene. Especially since the end of the Monday Night Wars, WWE did everything in their power to erode that and frankly, that’s sad.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2022 19:06:52 GMT -5
He never really got over with fans in general. WWE could have done a few things differently and the injuries didn't help, but he was never going to be a main eventer. I wish him luck, but can't say I'll particularly miss him. I mean, the idea that he had to be a main eventer isn’t really the point? Like, this stuff comes up and it sort of says a lot about the culture of WWE and what the fans take from it that we expect the person we want to be a main eventer or they might as well be nothing which goes against how someone like Hacksaw Jim Duggan or Crash Holly or the freakin Oddities were as over as they were despite being nowhere near the main event scene. Especially since the end of the Monday Night Wars, WWE did everything in their power to erode that and frankly, that’s sad. There's no reason why Ali couldn't have been at least a perennial IC/US Title contender. I despise this "main event or bust" mentality the company has.
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Post by eJm on Jan 16, 2022 19:11:13 GMT -5
I mean, the idea that he had to be a main eventer isn’t really the point? Like, this stuff comes up and it sort of says a lot about the culture of WWE and what the fans take from it that we expect the person we want to be a main eventer or they might as well be nothing which goes against how someone like Hacksaw Jim Duggan or Crash Holly or the freakin Oddities were as over as they were despite being nowhere near the main event scene. Especially since the end of the Monday Night Wars, WWE did everything in their power to erode that and frankly, that’s sad. There's no reason why Ali couldn't have been at least a perennial IC/US Title contender. Exactly. And there would be nothing wrong with that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2022 19:13:40 GMT -5
I get all your points. Yes, T-Bar's not on Raw and nobody watches Main Event, but it's not like he's not being used at all. If I was a wrestler, I rather be on Main Event & be watched by a few people than sit in catering and not being seen at all. What I don't get is why they don't even advertise Main Event. Like, a simple graphic on the screen during Raw isn't too much to ask for, is it?
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Post by MrElijah on Jan 16, 2022 19:16:42 GMT -5
There's no reason why Ali couldn't have been at least a perennial IC/US Title contender. Exactly. And there would be nothing wrong with that. It's amazing how many fun memories of the 80s/90s midcard we got then, outside of a few exceptions, the 2000s pushed it to the side.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2022 19:16:45 GMT -5
I get all your points. Yes, T-Bar's not on Raw and nobody watches Main Event, but it's not like he's not being used at all. If I was a wrestler, I rather be on Main Event & be watched by a few people than sit in catering and not being seen at all. What I don't get is why they don't even advertise Main Event. Like, a simple graphic on the screen during Raw isn't too much to ask for, is it? Isn't main event primarly an international show and doesn't actually air stateaide? could be wrong but I remember reading something like that so maybe that is why they don't advertise it.
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Post by eJm on Jan 16, 2022 19:17:21 GMT -5
What I don't get is why they don't even advertise Main Event. Like, a simple graphic on the screen during Raw isn't too much to ask for, is it? Isn't main event primarly an international show and doesn't actually air stateaide? could be wrong but I remembering that so maybe that is why they don't advertise it. It airs live on the WWE Network in the US.
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Post by papagiorgio on Jan 16, 2022 19:18:08 GMT -5
He never really got over with fans in general. WWE could have done a few things differently and the injuries didn't help, but he was never going to be a main eventer. I wish him luck, but can't say I'll particularly miss him. I mean, the idea that he had to be a main eventer isn’t really the point? Like, this stuff comes up and it sort of says a lot about the culture of WWE and what the fans take from it that we expect the person we want to be a main eventer or they might as well be nothing which goes against how someone like Hacksaw Jim Duggan or Crash Holly or the freakin Oddities were as over as they were despite being nowhere near the main event scene. Especially since the end of the Monday Night Wars, WWE did everything in their power to erode that and frankly, that’s sad. Ali wasn't even remotely as over as Hacksaw Jim Duggan or most mid card talent.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2022 19:19:11 GMT -5
Isn't main event primarly an international show and doesn't actually air stateaide? could be wrong but I remembering that so maybe that is why they don't advertise it. It airs live on the WWE Network in the US. Oh okay thanks for clearing that up.
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Post by MrElijah on Jan 16, 2022 19:22:37 GMT -5
I mean, the idea that he had to be a main eventer isn’t really the point? Like, this stuff comes up and it sort of says a lot about the culture of WWE and what the fans take from it that we expect the person we want to be a main eventer or they might as well be nothing which goes against how someone like Hacksaw Jim Duggan or Crash Holly or the freakin Oddities were as over as they were despite being nowhere near the main event scene. Especially since the end of the Monday Night Wars, WWE did everything in their power to erode that and frankly, that’s sad. Ali wasn't even remotely as over as Hacksaw Jim Duggan or most mid card talent. Because WWE books it's midcard like dirt 85-90% of the time
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Post by eJm on Jan 16, 2022 19:23:38 GMT -5
I mean, the idea that he had to be a main eventer isn’t really the point? Like, this stuff comes up and it sort of says a lot about the culture of WWE and what the fans take from it that we expect the person we want to be a main eventer or they might as well be nothing which goes against how someone like Hacksaw Jim Duggan or Crash Holly or the freakin Oddities were as over as they were despite being nowhere near the main event scene. Especially since the end of the Monday Night Wars, WWE did everything in their power to erode that and frankly, that’s sad. Ali wasn't even remotely as over as Hacksaw Jim Duggan or most mid card talent. I mean, Hacksaw isn’t a great example because he was coming in from a territory where he was over so they kept him doing what he was doing and it worked. Most of the talent in 80s WWF was basically them in the territories but for kids. Crash came in as Hardcore Holly’s cousin and nobody gave a single shit. They brawled all the time and the crowd wasn’t able to get invested because it was dumb. Then they tried something new, made him the Hardcore Houdini and boom, over like rover and people still talk about his segments to this day. They don’t give most of their talents anywhere near the chances they gave someone like Kurrgan or The Godfather or anyone who started out as duds.
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Post by Mecca on Jan 16, 2022 19:31:32 GMT -5
I mean, the idea that he had to be a main eventer isn’t really the point? Like, this stuff comes up and it sort of says a lot about the culture of WWE and what the fans take from it that we expect the person we want to be a main eventer or they might as well be nothing which goes against how someone like Hacksaw Jim Duggan or Crash Holly or the freakin Oddities were as over as they were despite being nowhere near the main event scene. Especially since the end of the Monday Night Wars, WWE did everything in their power to erode that and frankly, that’s sad. Ali wasn't even remotely as over as Hacksaw Jim Duggan or most mid card talent. If they had just aired the shit he was doing on social media and let him role with his stuff, he'd have been over... Oh yes forgot WWE doesn't like creative wrestlers.
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Post by MrElijah on Jan 16, 2022 19:32:25 GMT -5
Ali wasn't even remotely as over as Hacksaw Jim Duggan or most mid card talent. I mean, Hacksaw isn’t a great example because he was coming in from a territory where he was over so they kept him doing what he was doing and it worked. Most of the talent in 80s WWF was basically them in the territories but for kids. Crash came in as Hardcore Holly’s cousin and nobody gave a single shit. They brawled all the time and the crowd wasn’t able to get invested because it was dumb. Then they tried something new, made him the Hardcore Houdini and boom, over like rover and people still talk about his segments to this day. They don’t give most of their talents anywhere near the chances they gave someone like Kurrgan or The Godfather or anyone who started out as duds. Shit, look at the Honky Tonk Man. Was a face, fans hated his guts, turned him heel and got so much heat, he was the longest reigning Intercontinental Heavyweight Champion in history. Was he the best wrestler? No, but they let do what he do best.
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