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Post by Feyrhausen on Jan 16, 2022 22:31:09 GMT -5
At this point they just need to have a sit down meeting all talent and say if anyone doesn’t want to be here the door is open. Maybe that’s what they should have done in early 2021. But they cant lose that many people at one time. That would spike that quarters numbers making it harder to get numbers higher on future quarters. Especially with less people to fire. Better for business to spread out the releases.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 16, 2022 22:55:05 GMT -5
The only thing from Main Event I remember is the first episode when they did Punk vs Sheamus champ vs champ. I think that was later, the main event of the first one I'm pretty sure was Taker vs. Matt Hardy.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jan 16, 2022 23:02:37 GMT -5
Not everyone has to be a "main event talent," but jesus christ, imagine not thinking Mustafa Ali is a main event-level talent. Great promo whether heel or face, gets the fans invested (even at house shows when people were less likely to know who he is), amazing in-ring by any and all evaluations, genuine star quality, and has a head on stronger than most when it comes to carrying himself outside the ring. That's a guy who you can and should build a company around. Checks absolutely every box. Ali debuted well after I'd drifted out of watching WWE outside of Royal Rumbles and the occasional YouTube clip, and he still caught my attention and made me go "whoa, this kid has IT" every time I saw him wrestle. I'm struggling to think of other new names who impressed me as much. Maybe Alistair Black and, uh, Enzo.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Jan 16, 2022 23:03:26 GMT -5
The only thing from Main Event I remember is the first episode when they did Punk vs Sheamus champ vs champ. I think that was later, the main event of the first one I'm pretty sure was Taker vs. Matt Hardy. That was “superstars” not Main Event bro.
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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Jan 16, 2022 23:40:56 GMT -5
Report from Fightful apparently said Vince and Ali got into an argument because Vince wanted Ali to do a gimmick that he "would absolutely never do." I assume he was going the terrorist route in that case. Ali hasn't been on TV since said argument.
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Post by Woo on Jan 16, 2022 23:42:21 GMT -5
still going to need more solid evidence that Main Event is a real show There have been nearly 200 more episodes of it than there were of WCW Nitro. This blew my mind. Imagine running for that long and nobody remembers a single thing about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2022 23:44:27 GMT -5
Report from Fightful apparently said Vince and Ali got into an argument because Vince wanted Ali to do a gimmick that he "would absolutely never do." I assume he was going the terrorist route in that case. Ali hasn't been on TV since said argument. I really can't wait until Vince finally f***s off to hang with his grandkids.
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Post by Rave on Jan 16, 2022 23:44:39 GMT -5
They tried to Hassan him AGAIN?! WTF WWE.
I hope he goes somewhere he's more appreciated. Dude is too good a person for this shit.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 17, 2022 0:30:59 GMT -5
Report from Fightful apparently said Vince and Ali got into an argument because Vince wanted Ali to do a gimmick that he "would absolutely never do." I assume he was going the terrorist route in that case. Ali hasn't been on TV since said argument.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 0:33:30 GMT -5
I hope Ali does a shoot. I'd be very interested in hearing it.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Jan 17, 2022 1:00:57 GMT -5
If the Blade tweets are any indications It will be cool to see Musfafa Ali breakout in Hollywood Ali's tweet graphics of "goals much bigger than pro-wrestling" had me thinking he's done with wrestling and moving on to other things. Certainly at face value.
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Post by J. Hova on Jan 17, 2022 1:09:09 GMT -5
Dude has a ton of talent, but do I see him as a main eventer? No. There is nothing wrong with that. There have been a ton of people who never got to that level who made a boatload of money.
As far as the proposed angle, it is speculation that it would be another Hassan type of angle. I'll always maintain that up until the martyr portion, the Hassan stuff was pretty good and had legs. I'll even go as far to say that if done right (yeah, WWE would probably screw this up), he could have been a huge face down the road.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 17, 2022 3:20:39 GMT -5
At this point they just need to have a sit down meeting all talent and say if anyone doesn’t want to be here the door is open. Maybe that’s what they should have done in early 2021. If they do this, they'll lose people they have plans for, even if those plans were just to sit on them for 3 years until they're ice cold to harm their prospects outside the WWE.
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Post by schma on Jan 17, 2022 4:03:02 GMT -5
I suppose I can't fault him, really. He's clearly tried to work with whatever they hand him, but they hand him less and less. I honestly think WWE should release him, since frankly, it's good for the budget, anyway. "But what if someone who they have plans for demands their release?" If they have plans for them, what is the likelihood that happens? Virtually nil? Bold of people to assume they have plans for anyone.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 17, 2022 4:45:03 GMT -5
So, I'm someone who doesn't follow anything WWE does besides to occasionally gawk at the village idiot on here. I couldn't tell you who's even on the current roster besides like Randy Orton. I don't know who the f*** a Veer or a Bron Breaker is besides seeing the name a few times.
Yet I've heard the name Mustafa Ali quite often, either on Twitter or here. And it's 100% of the time in a really, really positive light.
When you block out WWE so much that only headlines like Velveteen Dream being a creep, or blood money shows, or mass terminations during a pandemic make it past the filter, yet I've heard plenty of this one guy being nothing but a stand up human being amidst it? That tells me they had a major star there and once again WWE'd themselves.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 17, 2022 6:09:29 GMT -5
So, I'm someone who doesn't follow anything WWE does besides to occasionally gawk at the village idiot on here. I couldn't tell you who's even on the current roster besides like Randy Orton. I don't know who the f*** a Veer or a Bron Breaker is besides seeing the name a few times. Yet I've heard the name Mustafa Ali quite often, either on Twitter or here. And it's 100% of the time in a really, really positive light. When you block out WWE so much that only headlines like Velveteen Dream being a creep, or blood money shows, or mass terminations during a pandemic make it past the filter, yet I've heard plenty of this one guy being nothing but a stand up human being amidst it? That tells me they had a major star there and once again WWE'd themselves. And not just that of course, but taking this stand up human being with so much talent, who has spoken to just about anyone who asks about how he wants to change things for Muslim wrestlers and not be a heel because of his ethnicity or with any unflattering stereotypes, and if the reports are true, walked after a fight where uhhh they seemingly tried to get him to do just that. That says everything you need to know about WWE and the people running it.
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Post by rudiger on Jan 17, 2022 9:00:54 GMT -5
They were aggressively wasting this dudes time, hope he gets it.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 17, 2022 9:10:16 GMT -5
Dude has a ton of talent, but do I see him as a main eventer? No. There is nothing wrong with that. There have been a ton of people who never got to that level who made a boatload of money. As far as the proposed angle, it is speculation that it would be another Hassan type of angle. I'll always maintain that up until the martyr portion, the Hassan stuff was pretty good and had legs. I'll even go as far to say that if done right (yeah, WWE would probably screw this up), he could have been a huge face down the road. From what I remember, the very first Hassan promo was incredibly well done and was very open ended on whether he was heel or face. But then they leaned heavily into him being heel on the next promo and all the subtlety was gone from the gimmick.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 17, 2022 9:14:51 GMT -5
Dude has a ton of talent, but do I see him as a main eventer? No. There is nothing wrong with that. There have been a ton of people who never got to that level who made a boatload of money. As far as the proposed angle, it is speculation that it would be another Hassan type of angle. I'll always maintain that up until the martyr portion, the Hassan stuff was pretty good and had legs. I'll even go as far to say that if done right (yeah, WWE would probably screw this up), he could have been a huge face down the road. From what I remember, the very first Hassan promo was incredibly well done and was very open ended on whether he was heel or face. But then they leaned heavily into him being heel on the next promo and all the subtlety was gone from the gimmick. Also didn’t help he essentially got booed out of the building during those first couple of ambiguous promos so, yeah, they were going to make him a heel.
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Post by asuka007 on Jan 17, 2022 9:23:40 GMT -5
1. People tend to not like having a light shined on the, less appealing, aspects of society. So of course they were going to boo him. The fact that he would cheat constantly in matches added to that.
2. Vince doesn’t do subtlety and his thinking is stuck back in the 1980’s in many ways. So of course The gimmick was going to get watered down.
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