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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 10:14:44 GMT -5
This is a bad move for the industry like most acquisitions are. Shit's nasty. I feel bad for people who can't really go to other console. Like, we always talk about how WWE is damaging the industry but in this case it's worse given consoles are far more expensive and far more money's going into games than wrestling. At the end of the day money talks so yeah they moved.
It's only a matter of time until Square-Enix, Capcom and others follow suit sadly. I see no way they won't. This also damaged Nintendo and Sony as those games are definitely getting locked out of those consoles.
It's like we're back in the 90s.
As for Bobby Kotick and all those dudes in Activision, the press release said he'll remain with the company as of until the merger's complete so he's at least keeping a job for the next 18 months. He's probably going to get time to prepare and then dip. They didn't fix shit, they basically said "yeah he's still here" in that press release. That's bullshit.
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Post by mrtuesday on Jan 18, 2022 10:41:21 GMT -5
Meanwhile, at Sony... Meanwhile, meanwhile, at Disney...
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Post by Fundertaker on Jan 18, 2022 11:16:25 GMT -5
This is a bad move for the industry like most acquisitions are. Shit's nasty. I feel bad for people who can't really go to other console. Like, we always talk about how WWE is damaging the industry but in this case it's worse given consoles are far more expensive and far more money's going into games than wrestling. At the end of the day money talks so yeah they moved. It's only a matter of time until Square-Enix, Capcom and others follow suit sadly. I see no way they won't. This also damaged Nintendo and Sony as those games are definitely getting locked out of those consoles. It's like we're back in the 90s. As for Bobby Kotick and all those dudes in Activision, the press release said he'll remain with the company as of until the merger's complete so he's at least keeping a job for the next 18 months. He's probably going to get time to prepare and then dip. They didn't fix shit, they basically said "yeah he's still here" in that press release. That's bullshit. Due to the country's laws, acquisitions and mergers of foreign companies with Japanese ones are VERY difficult and VERY morose, so unless the Japanese gaming industry collapses unto itself for some reason, those companies will remain there for the forseable future. I also don't think crossing the pond into continental Europe would be very lucrative, so Ubisoft, CD Projekt Red and the numerous mid-to-low tier European companies would probably be ok too. It's mostly just American and British companies eating themselves in a process that's going on for quite a while at this point. And, considering this will impact wtv Activision had in their pipeline from some considerable amount of time (considering their usual schedule), we'll probably see new IPs emerging or re-emerging to take on those that left (and by that it's mostly CoD, Diablo, the Crafts-verses, Spyro and Crash at this point, so it won't be a big loss for a long time).
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Jan 18, 2022 11:26:03 GMT -5
Bobby Kotick is staying on as head honcho at Activision after the sale is final so there's going to be exactly zero comeuppance for his presiding over a culture of just pure scummery in age where we're all supposed to know better.
As for Microsoft, this continues a long legacy of them heaping money on the XBOX brand as to blunt force it into becoming the go-to gaming brand in the mainstream. They'll still only sell 4 XSX in Japan, mind you.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 18, 2022 11:49:40 GMT -5
Random fact: I believe this makes Microsoft (the gaming part) the third largest gaming company behind Tencent and Sony.
Which is why some of the online stuff I see with people talking about a supposed Microsoft monopoly is kinda funny. Nobody is going to force break up the third largest anything and leave the two bigger ones untouched.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 18, 2022 11:53:02 GMT -5
Bobby Kotick is staying on as head honcho at Activision after the sale is final so there's going to be exactly zero comeuppance for his presiding over a culture of just pure scummery in age where we're all supposed to know better. From what I’ve seen going around, the “best case scenario” is that they say they fire him without prejudice to which he gets a pay package and leaves to try and make out that change is coming but even then, that still leaves him with Kotick getting a bumper pay package from it. And that’s not even to say it’ll fully happen, this deal technically won’t be completed until mid-2023 so we won’t know the wider implications unless any (more) civil suits kick off before that.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 18, 2022 12:03:47 GMT -5
So this is why Microsoft were going 'Oh, well, we're not really placed to pass judgement on Activision for their behaviour!', they were too busy pushing that wheelbarrow of money to think of the morals of those involved. Jeebus.
Kotick is going to walk away with a vast amount of money and likely a seat on the microsoft board waiting for him, proving once and for all that if you're above a certain level of wealth, consequences are something that happens to the poor.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 18, 2022 12:20:04 GMT -5
Something to keep an eye on…
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Post by darbus alan on Jan 18, 2022 12:20:04 GMT -5
The craziest thing about this is that Microsoft just paid straight cash for this. That's nuts.
The good news for employees is that Microsoft under Satya Nadella has a great workplace reputation. So once things are settled, there's going to be a lot of improvements on that front. I'd expect Blizzard especially to have a discerning eye on it. Hearsay also says Kotick is also on the way out with a golden parachute though he deserves a lead one and a push off a bridge. But that's capitalism for you.
I also wouldn't be surprised if CoD still ends up on PlayStation consoles just because of how big a source of revenue that is. It might generate more profit to keep it multiplatform than stick it on Xbox-only and Microsoft has a weird view about exclusivity anyway.
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Post by Flo360 on Jan 18, 2022 12:23:52 GMT -5
Good...There is like 4 Call of Duty Campaigns I gotta catch up on. Put that on Gamepass yesterday! (Shut up! I like them. Infinite Warfare is an amazing Space-Action Game in Singleplayer, I will die on that hill.)
As for the rest. As others have said, MicroSoft has an really good reputation for Workplace-Culture. So hopefully employees will get to keep their job, and the scum will be send to hell. HOPEFULLY!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 12:36:28 GMT -5
Bobby Kotick is staying on as head honcho at Activision after the sale is final so there's going to be exactly zero comeuppance for his presiding over a culture of just pure scummery in age where we're all supposed to know better. I think Kotick sticking around is the most depressing part of the news, even more than the oligopoly, because if you're familiar with Western capitalism, consolidation and the removal of competition in favor of "cooperation" to limit the options for the paying public is a part of the daily life. Both are shitty, but it's like Kotick just got rewarded for a lifetime of horrible behavior with the greatest coup of all time.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 18, 2022 12:40:28 GMT -5
I swear if we ever land in a dystopian, Fallout-esque world in the future, the 3 major powers will be Microsoft, Disney and Wal-Mart.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 18, 2022 12:57:32 GMT -5
So about Bobby…
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 18, 2022 13:07:02 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm not surprised. Microsoft pride themselves on their good workplace culture, and the bad PR of keeping Kotick around would undermine that.
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Post by darbus alan on Jan 18, 2022 13:09:24 GMT -5
That matches up with what I've heard from my little birds.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 18, 2022 13:23:04 GMT -5
A free agent Bobby Kotick sounds terrifying though.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 18, 2022 13:24:55 GMT -5
A free agent Bobby Kotick sounds terrifying though. I mean, a higher up accused and eventually fired for inappropriate sexual behavior in the work place seems to always have a place on the WWE board of directors, apparently.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 18, 2022 14:29:33 GMT -5
We cannot truly undersell how well COD does. From 2009-2019, the yearly COD game was the best selling title in America every year, except for in 2013 and 2018 when Rockstar titles took those crowns(GTA5 and RDR2).
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Post by Hurbster on Jan 18, 2022 14:39:07 GMT -5
I wonder what the revenue from King alone is. And this whole thing would have been unthinkable 12 months ago...
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 18, 2022 15:34:37 GMT -5
A free agent Bobby Kotick sounds terrifying though. I mean, a higher up accused and eventually fired for inappropriate sexual behavior in the work place seems to always have a place on the WWE board of directors, apparently. That's a monkey's paw; Vince sells WWE... To Bobby Kotick.
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