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Post by Zombie Mod on Jan 18, 2022 15:50:57 GMT -5
I cant see Microsoft making cod a Xbox/pc exclusive, far too much money would be left in Playstation console owner's pockets.
would also depend on any existing deals are already in place for what format Activision's games are to be released on, those will be multi year deals with an expiration date way way into the future (as what happened with Minecraft when Microsoft bought Mojang.)
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 18, 2022 15:51:05 GMT -5
Well, did NOT see this coming at all. As an XBox guy with Game Pass Ultimate this is awesome for me, but I totally understand the concern from people.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 18, 2022 16:30:04 GMT -5
I cant see Microsoft making cod a Xbox/pc exclusive, far too much money would be left in Playstation console owner's pockets. would also depend on any existing deals are already in place for what format Activision's games are to be released on, those will be multi year deals with an expiration date way way into the future (as what happened with Minecraft when Microsoft bought Mojang.) Yeah, taking away Warzone alone basically gives Fortnite full reign in the battle royale market and I really don’t think Microsoft would be happy with letting that happen.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 18, 2022 17:17:22 GMT -5
Seems to be more reports backing this up.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 18, 2022 17:26:12 GMT -5
It's gonna be interesting to see Sony's strategy, with Microsoft clearly trying to squeeze them in the West while Nintendo's dominating Japan.
I know there's been talk of who Microsoft might get next, or if Sony might aim for their own acquisitions to compensate, but for Eastern third parties that'll be tricky either way. Japan really frowns on outsider countries owning their prominent companies, so that might count out the former, while the latter might struggle to put such developers to the most effective use if they can't get any headway in their home country as far as hardware sales. (And that's assuming no market obstacles by Sony in getting such companies to begin with)
Heck, even as greedy as Konami is, it's in their best interest to stay a third party given the easy revenue they can get in the Japanese market via modestly budgeted, but successful titles on Switch.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 18, 2022 17:37:08 GMT -5
I don't see Microsoft ending Activision ports to Sony hardware, but I do see the really big games coming to XBox and windows first and certain major expansions not coming to Playstation.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 18, 2022 17:37:32 GMT -5
It's gonna be interesting to see Sony's strategy, with Microsoft clearly trying to squeeze them in the West while Nintendo's dominating Japan. I know there's been talk of who Microsoft might get next, or if Sony might aim for their own acquisitions to compensate, but for Eastern third parties that'll be tricky either way. Japan really frowns on outsider countries owning their prominent companies, so that might count out the former, while the latter might struggle to put such developers to the most effective use if they can't get any headway in their home country as far as hardware sales. (And that's assuming no market obstacles by Sony in getting such companies to begin with) Heck, even as greedy as Konami is, it's in their best interest to stay a third party given the easy revenue they can get in the Japanese market via modestly budgeted, but successful titles on Switch. I feel like the most interesting thing about Sony's acquisition strategy the past year or so is that they've brought smaller developers whose primary jobs is to fine-tune final products or to help other developers out with titles. The only acceptions being officially acquiring Insommniac which wasn't so much a big deal as a "Wait, they hadn't done that already?" It's almost surprising that they haven't just jumped at another company but a part of me thinks they don't need to. Microsoft have needed to go after third parties since they genuinely do need to so whether this one changes that is something that I guess we'll have to watch out for.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Jan 18, 2022 18:07:51 GMT -5
I mean, a higher up accused and eventually fired for inappropriate sexual behavior in the work place seems to always have a place on the WWE board of directors, apparently. That's a monkey's paw; Vince sells WWE... To Bobby Kotick. I'd rather not have a "Who stole Liv Morgan's breast milk?" storyline.
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Post by darbus alan on Jan 18, 2022 18:14:22 GMT -5
TBH, I don't even think Microsoft is especially concerned with Sony. I think a big part of the reason why they made this acquisition (and probably why it won't get much of a stink in terms of antitrust considerations) is Tencent. People in the West especially underestimate just how massive that company is.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 18, 2022 18:17:22 GMT -5
I do hope that Microsoft does what they did with Ori and allow Spyro and Crash to get Switch/Switch successor releases at least. A lot of the other stuff isn't necessarily the biggest sellers on Nintendo consoles, but those two could make some money given the audience.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 18, 2022 18:20:11 GMT -5
TBH, I don't even think Microsoft is especially concerned with Sony. I think a big part of the reason why they made this acquisition (and probably why it won't get much of a stink in terms of antitrust considerations) is Tencent. People in the West especially underestimate just how massive that company is. Yeah, they seem to be in the news either acquiring something or buying a stake in a company. They've got their prints all over the place. EDIT: Hell, as of right now, they have a 5% stake in Activision Blizzard.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 18, 2022 18:24:05 GMT -5
TBH, I don't even think Microsoft is especially concerned with Sony. I think a big part of the reason why they made this acquisition (and probably why it won't get much of a stink in terms of antitrust considerations) is Tencent. People in the West especially underestimate just how massive that company is. Count me in that group, since I'd never heard of Tencent until a couple of hours ago.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 18, 2022 18:29:12 GMT -5
TBH, I don't even think Microsoft is especially concerned with Sony. I think a big part of the reason why they made this acquisition (and probably why it won't get much of a stink in terms of antitrust considerations) is Tencent. People in the West especially underestimate just how massive that company is. Count me in that group, since I'd never heard of Tencent until a couple of hours ago. From checking their Wikipedia page, let me put it to you like this; Think of a game developer or publisher that has developed noteworthy games over the past, say, 10-20 years. Your Dark Souls, your Yooka Laylees, your Alan Wakes, your Left 4 Deads etc. Tencent has, at the very least, a 5% stake in all of them.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 18, 2022 18:31:54 GMT -5
From checking their Wikipedia page, let me put it to you like this; Think of a game developer or publisher that has developed noteworthy games over the past, say, 10-20 years. Your Dark Souls, your Yooka Laylees, your Alan Wakes, your Left 4 Deads etc. Tencent has, at the very least, a 5% stake in all of them. Yeah, after looking them up I wasn't surprised hadn't heard of them but was impressed by how they've quietly been building up over the 20 years.
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Post by darbus alan on Jan 18, 2022 18:35:49 GMT -5
TBH, I don't even think Microsoft is especially concerned with Sony. I think a big part of the reason why they made this acquisition (and probably why it won't get much of a stink in terms of antitrust considerations) is Tencent. People in the West especially underestimate just how massive that company is. Yeah, they seem to be in the news either acquiring something or buying a stake in a company. They've got their prints all over the place. EDIT: Hell, as of right now, they have a 5% stake in Activision Blizzard. Exactly. Tying back into your Fortnite point, Tencent owns a 40% stake in Epic.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 18:52:25 GMT -5
This is a bad move for the industry like most acquisitions are. Shit's nasty. I feel bad for people who can't really go to other console. Like, we always talk about how WWE is damaging the industry but in this case it's worse given consoles are far more expensive and far more money's going into games than wrestling. At the end of the day money talks so yeah they moved. It's only a matter of time until Square-Enix, Capcom and others follow suit sadly. I see no way they won't. This also damaged Nintendo and Sony as those games are definitely getting locked out of those consoles. It's like we're back in the 90s. As for Bobby Kotick and all those dudes in Activision, the press release said he'll remain with the company as of until the merger's complete so he's at least keeping a job for the next 18 months. He's probably going to get time to prepare and then dip. They didn't fix shit, they basically said "yeah he's still here" in that press release. That's bullshit. Due to the country's laws, acquisitions and mergers of foreign companies with Japanese ones are VERY difficult and VERY morose, so unless the Japanese gaming industry collapses unto itself for some reason, those companies will remain there for the forseable future. I also don't think crossing the pond into continental Europe would be very lucrative, so Ubisoft, CD Projekt Red and the numerous mid-to-low tier European companies would probably be ok too. It's mostly just American and British companies eating themselves in a process that's going on for quite a while at this point. And, considering this will impact wtv Activision had in their pipeline from some considerable amount of time (considering their usual schedule), we'll probably see new IPs emerging or re-emerging to take on those that left (and by that it's mostly CoD, Diablo, the Crafts-verses, Spyro and Crash at this point, so it won't be a big loss for a long time).
That doesn't really say anything in regards to this hurting Sony and Nintendo's consoles. With Microsoft buying Activision, it'll be similar to what's happened with Bethesda IE we're just going to get less of those games on other consoles which hurts more players who have those other consoles and aren't in Microsoft's ecosystem which in turn hurts Sony and Nintendo which damages the industry. From Activision's side, yeah they've got Microsoft and they've got money so that's great for them, it's great for them internally if things work out well and it's great for having their games highlighted. But for those who aren't part of that? That's just hurting the players. Regardless, the less games across multiple consoles is a negative towards players. We can also look at other developers, smaller indie devs, just smaller companies. Microsoft can do a press conference and with more games in their line-up, that's just more time to highlight the larger games compared to smaller titles. Would they want to give time to an Overwatch 3 compared to "insert indy game no one's heard of" in a conference? I mean, we know the answer to this.
The only people who approve of this are those who are part of the ecosystem who are just happy that they'll keep playing the games they can already play.
I'll never approve of acquisitions whether in gaming, in wrestling, nah that's just not something I support.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Jan 18, 2022 18:55:49 GMT -5
I'm torn, because on one hand it's just another grab in Microsoft, and Disney's face to see who can break the most anti-trust laws fastest.
On the other hand with everything Activison, and Blizzard have pulled... They deserve to be owned by some corporate overlords who can either fic or break them as they see fit, because they clearly can't be trusted to manage their own s***.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 19:11:02 GMT -5
A free agent Bobby Kotick sounds terrifying though. I heard Intellivision is looking for people
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 18, 2022 19:14:00 GMT -5
A free agent Bobby Kotick sounds terrifying though. I heard Intellivision is looking for people Do you really want an egocentric, shameless, uncaring asshole with undeserved money and no sense of self awareness leading Intellivision... ...and have Bobby Kotick there too?
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Post by Von Wagner's Brownies on Jan 19, 2022 12:57:23 GMT -5
Activision right now:
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