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Post by héad.casé on Jan 21, 2022 2:44:15 GMT -5
“I didn’t have a problem with the nWo, I don’t think anybody had a problem with them. There was one time where Vince was really concerned because I had to make Hogan tap out at King of the Ring in 2002 and he wanted to make sure, he told me that Hulk Hogan would talk him out of it so he wanted me to be in the room with Hulk Hogan when he told Hulk that he was going to tap out to me.
“I was really nervous, it’s Hulk Hogan, the biggest name in the business, in the history of the business, and here I’m going to make him tap out for the first time in his career and Vince wants me there to make sure he abides by it. It just blew my mind, I was nervous and scared and I was inexperienced. I didn’t know what to think or expect and here Vince wanted me to be there just to ensure Hulk Hogan didn’t talk him out of it. There were times where Hogan might have been political in the past, but he wasn’t at this point in time.”
Source: The Kurt Angle Show
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2022 4:13:33 GMT -5
This Hogan run was amazing. I wish we had nWo Hogan longer in WWE but I get why they wanted to capitalize on the momentum after WM18.
Seeing him face the likes of Angle, Jericho, Brock, HHH, Biker Taker and then team with Edge was crazy. He even lost clean to some of these guys.
His match at Mania 19 against Vince is really underrated too. It probably had no right to be that good.
And that Voodoo Child theme.... *chefs kiss*
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Post by H-Virus on Jan 21, 2022 7:42:08 GMT -5
Technically, Hogan had already submitted to Luger and Sting several years earlier, even though he didn’t ‘tap’ either time, since that was before tapping out in wrestling became a thing.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 21, 2022 8:02:52 GMT -5
Hogan's an awful human being, pure and simple, but I will say that I've heard virtually nothing but praise from people who worked with him in WWE from 2002 to the mid-2000s. Edge loved teaming with him, Lance Storm said he was very professional and giving, and of course, Kurt here is nothing but praise.
I have no idea if Shawn's ever really gotten into his feud, and of course Vince himself eventually got frustrated with Hogan, but it was a smooth relationship for a while, both with wrestlers and fans, really. Shame for him that he'd torpedo this good will, because the second run did a lot to rehabilitate his image after the death knell WCW days.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 21, 2022 8:53:02 GMT -5
Hogan's an awful human being, pure and simple, but I will say that I've heard virtually nothing but praise from people who worked with him in WWE from 2002 to the mid-2000s. Edge loved teaming with him, Lance Storm said he was very professional and giving, and of course, Kurt here is nothing but praise. I have no idea if Shawn's ever really gotten into his feud, and of course Vince himself eventually got frustrated with Hogan, but it was a smooth relationship for a while, both with wrestlers and fans, really. Shame for him that he'd torpedo this good will, because the second run did a lot to rehabilitate his image after the death knell WCW days. its interesting. you had a Hogan who needed WWE way more than they needed him, so he couldn't just pull the same shit he usually did. as a result he had his best run IMO because he actually had to put guys over without complaining for once. |
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 21, 2022 8:57:44 GMT -5
Hogan's an awful human being, pure and simple, but I will say that I've heard virtually nothing but praise from people who worked with him in WWE from 2002 to the mid-2000s. Edge loved teaming with him, Lance Storm said he was very professional and giving, and of course, Kurt here is nothing but praise. I have no idea if Shawn's ever really gotten into his feud, and of course Vince himself eventually got frustrated with Hogan, but it was a smooth relationship for a while, both with wrestlers and fans, really. Shame for him that he'd torpedo this good will, because the second run did a lot to rehabilitate his image after the death knell WCW days. Yeah, Jericho said that he was afraid Hogan would pull his WCW tricks, but he didn't, and he loved working with Hogan. Hogan was more focused on playing to the crowd and getting them invested in the match, while his opponents and partners did the heavy lifting move wise. Remember that Lance Storm said that Hogan was so safe he'd let Hogan punch his kids. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 21, 2022 8:59:50 GMT -5
Hogan's an awful human being, pure and simple, but I will say that I've heard virtually nothing but praise from people who worked with him in WWE from 2002 to the mid-2000s. Edge loved teaming with him, Lance Storm said he was very professional and giving, and of course, Kurt here is nothing but praise. I have no idea if Shawn's ever really gotten into his feud, and of course Vince himself eventually got frustrated with Hogan, but it was a smooth relationship for a while, both with wrestlers and fans, really. Shame for him that he'd torpedo this good will, because the second run did a lot to rehabilitate his image after the death knell WCW days. its interesting. you had a Hogan who needed WWE way more than they needed him, so he couldn't just pull the same shit he usually did. as a result he had his best run IMO because he actually had to put guys over without complaining for once. That was likely part of it, plus probably Hogan being in a good mood. He had a ton of popularity he was riding, probably making money hand over fist, and was not having to butt heads with Russo like in late-WCW. I think the honeymoon was largely over when he was starting to feel marginalized compared to the level he wanted to be presented at. Case in point would be him being completely obliterated by Brock Lesnar to not go on the Global Warning tour in Australia, with Hogan under the belief he'd get a win over Lesnar down the line as a reward for putting him over. It was so close to when Austin balked at losing to Brock due to how it'd be handled, really just goes to show how much effort WWE was putting into making Brock Lesnar THE guy. |
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Post by msc on Jan 21, 2022 9:02:43 GMT -5
I watched that show live with friends at a sleepover and when Hogan tapped, you could have heard a pin drop. Just a bunch of jaded teenage smarks gobsmacked at what they'd seen.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Jan 21, 2022 9:14:19 GMT -5
Looking back, it was hilarious that he put over everyone he faced on PPV in 2002 except Triple H.
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Post by 4TheGlory on Jan 21, 2022 10:23:19 GMT -5
I love that Kurt has made so many people tap out that rarely if ever do. Undertaker, Hogan, Kane, Cena etc
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Post by asuka007 on Jan 21, 2022 12:29:47 GMT -5
It was the only time that babyface Hogan ever submitted I believe.
Kurt was the only one to make Mick Foley tap out in WWE as well I think?
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jan 21, 2022 12:38:56 GMT -5
Technically, Hogan had already submitted to Luger and Sting several years earlier, even though he didn’t ‘tap’ either time, since that was before tapping out in wrestling became a thing. I seem to remember tapping out starting with Shamrock, which would have been the same year as the Luger/Sting matches but I also remember it being exclusive to Shamrock for awhile. Like you’d tap to his anklelock but still give up normally to a sharpshooter. |
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 21, 2022 12:45:30 GMT -5
Hogan's an awful human being, pure and simple, but I will say that I've heard virtually nothing but praise from people who worked with him in WWE from 2002 to the mid-2000s. Edge loved teaming with him, Lance Storm said he was very professional and giving, and of course, Kurt here is nothing but praise. That's essentially the only period of his career I enjoyed, that's probably partially because those good vibes came across on screen and largely because he lost more often. Shame that didn't last. |
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Jan 21, 2022 13:07:15 GMT -5
Kurt's under-selling himself here.
I do think as a Gold Medal winning Olympian, especially in wrestling, he's rightly put on a pedestal amongst the boys and no one would have a problem jobbing to a legit champion and National hero.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jan 21, 2022 13:20:53 GMT -5
I remember being really shocked at the finish. If Angle won I was expecting it to be via some kind of heelish method like grabbing the ropes/tights. I never thought Hogan as a babyface would tap out.
As much as Hogan played ball during that 6 month run the old Hogan still creeped back in towards the end when he tried to politic himself into returning at Survivor Series in MSG and being the first person to beat Brock Lesnar.
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