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Post by Lance Uppercut on Mar 1, 2022 4:57:00 GMT -5
Just thinking the other day how in tnA, the styles clash was AH’s signature move and the phenomenal forearm was one of his random mid match moves, and how it’s his go to wwe move and no one really cares about the styles clash even though he sometimes wins with it.
Charlottes natural selection in nxt was treated as a death shot before the figure 8 The Paige turner got depowered on raw for the Rampaige
I clearly remember Adam Paige having a move called the dead eye for the first few months of aew (and so I assume it was his roh finisher) before the buckshot lariat became his go to move
Jericho had the Judas effect on aew and his Codebreaker seems to be a thing of his wwe past
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 1, 2022 5:13:58 GMT -5
Yep, Adam Page's Dead Eye was his finisher for I think NJPW and ROH, and he did initially use it as his finisher in AEW before going to the Buckshot.
One that comes to mind is Cactus Jack using the piledriver he'd do where he pulls someone's tights while doing it as a finisher in ECW, but then it becoming a signature of move sorts after that, with the Mandible Claw and Double Arm DDT being the main finishers he'd use.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Mar 1, 2022 9:43:54 GMT -5
One that comes to mind is Cactus Jack using the piledriver he'd do where he pulls someone's tights while doing it as a finisher in ECW, but then it becoming a signature of move sorts after that, with the Mandible Claw and Double Arm DDT being the main finishers he'd use. And even before that his elbow drop off the apron and onto the floor was Cactus' primary finisher in WCW, until he changed it up with the double arm DDT/stump piledriver.
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Post by The Foreigner™: OffSZN on Mar 1, 2022 10:29:49 GMT -5
Adam Cole's Last Shot was initially an Ushigoroshi before WWE, then Last Shot (or "The Boom" in AEW) became the Shining Wizard in WWE, with occasional uses of Panama Sunrise as an alternate finisher. Ushigoroshi became a two-count move for him.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 1, 2022 10:39:37 GMT -5
Bryan Danielson's only finishers in WWE were the Knee Plus and the Running Knee
In AEW he's finished people off with about eight different moves so far, maybe more.
In WWE, The Cattle Mutilation was merely a normal submission, if rarely ever used, while in every other company, including AEW, he's beaten people with it
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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 1, 2022 10:41:36 GMT -5
Good question!
Ronnie Garvin really didn't knock anyone out with his Hands of Stone in the WWF. (yet the Garvin Stomp levelled up, and he also had the Scorpion) Likewise, Marc Mero had no knockout left hook as he did as Johnny B. Badd. Instead it was the Wild Thing/Marvelocity or the TKO. Kerry Von Erich's iron claw was just a setup for the Tornado/Discus Punch. (which levelled up as his finish) Monty Brown/Marcus Cor Von = the Pounce was levelled down. Did Curt Hennig beat anyone in the AWA with the Perfectplex? I want to say yes, though in the AWA, Hennig used the Axe Attack (a clothesline) sometimes too, yes? I don't think the Axe was even referenced/used as much when he became Mr. Perfect. Hulk Hogan's axe bomber didn't get treated like a finisher much. (I think early on he finished some matches with it, but mainly the legdrop) Patriot didn't finish anyone with the Patriot Missile in the WWF, yes? (I know his finisher was the Uncle Slam) Dean Malenko used a tiger driver as a finish in ECW, IIRC. In WCW, it was just a setup for the Texas Cloverleaf.
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Post by ppl591 on Mar 1, 2022 11:08:33 GMT -5
AJ Styles phenomenal forearm was just another move in TNA
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2022 11:22:28 GMT -5
The key to almost all of the changes is the size of the person performing them, and no, that's not a knock.
You can hit the Phenomenal Forearm on anyone between Marko Stunt and Great Khali. Same thing with the Buckshot Lariat, The Boom, etc. They're also a bit less of a contrivance to set up and as far as I'm aware, strike finishers are some of the safest guarantees in all of wrestling.
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Post by Psicofreak667 on Mar 1, 2022 18:43:08 GMT -5
Brodie Lee/Luke Harper switching from the discus lariat being a trademark and the big boot being a finisher in his CHIKARA days, to the other way around in WWE.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Mar 1, 2022 19:28:19 GMT -5
Lex Luger never used the Torture Rack in his Narcissist days. He eventually started using it under the name "The Rebel Rack" when he was a pro-USA babyface.
Likewise the "loaded forearm" that was treated as a death blow in WWF was rarely used in his second WCW run. I think I remember him using it once, maybe twice in WCW where commentary actually acknowledged it.
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Post by Psicofreak667 on Mar 4, 2022 22:29:36 GMT -5
Thought up a couple others.
The Barbarian used the Kick of Fear, the Powerbomb, Top Rope Flying Clothesline, Piledriver, and Diving Headbutt (and I'm not positive but I think I remember him using the Big Splash as well for a bit) throughout his career, but he never stopped cycling which one was the Finisher and which ones were trademark moves.
Test first started using the Big Boot as half of a double team with Albert - he'd whip Albert into the corner for a splash, and then Albert would whip the opponent out of the corner into the boot. Test's Big Boot just looked so damn good that he phased out the top rope elbow and the Test Drive for the Big Boot.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 5, 2022 10:27:10 GMT -5
Good question! Ronnie Garvin really didn't knock anyone out with his Hands of Stone in the WWF. (yet the Garvin Stomp levelled up, and he also had the Scorpion) Likewise, Marc Mero had no knockout left hook as he did as Johnny B. Badd. Instead it was the Wild Thing/Marvelocity or the TKO. Kerry Von Erich's iron claw was just a setup for the Tornado/Discus Punch. (which levelled up as his finish) Monty Brown/Marcus Cor Von = the Pounce was levelled down. Did Curt Hennig beat anyone in the AWA with the Perfectplex? I want to say yes, though in the AWA, Hennig used the Axe Attack (a clothesline) sometimes too, yes? I don't think the Axe was even referenced/used as much when he became Mr. Perfect. Hulk Hogan's axe bomber didn't get treated like a finisher much. (I think early on he finished some matches with it, but mainly the legdrop) Patriot didn't finish anyone with the Patriot Missile in the WWF, yes? (I know his finisher was the Uncle Slam) Dean Malenko used a tiger driver as a finish in ECW, IIRC. In WCW, it was just a setup for the Texas Cloverleaf. I think that, off-hand, the most notable win Hogan ever got with the Axe Bomber in WWF was beating Terry Funk with it when they had a short feud.
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