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Post by Gerard Gerard on Mar 22, 2022 1:49:34 GMT -5
Wonder if he gets to keep the name should they part again. I still can't actually believe he's gone back after everything.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Mar 22, 2022 4:10:51 GMT -5
The realistic danger for Cody isn't that he gets booked intentionally poorly. It's being booked unintentionally poorly. This. If Cody was buried to be petty guys like MJF could justify signing with WWE with the excuse that they buried Cody for revenge and someone without that history would be treated better. But if Cody comes in with the red carpet rolled out and treated as a major deal, but is still a goober in a few months due to poor creative? That could give them a real pause.
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Post by msc on Mar 22, 2022 4:27:01 GMT -5
Why is it surprising Cody Rhodes has returned? I refer you all to his public letter on leaving WWE: "My goal in wrestling is to win the WWE Championship". He wants their top belt, he wants it so he can pay the ultimate tribute to his dad (in his mindset), and the whole leaving WWE in the first place was to prove to Vince that he was good enough to be the sort of guy who wins the WWE Championship.
It took longer than expected when AEW started up, but everyone has one dream role in their life, and his can only be got at in WWE.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 22, 2022 4:58:15 GMT -5
Why is it surprising Cody Rhodes has returned? I refer you all to his public letter on leaving WWE: "My goal in wrestling is to win the WWE Championship". He wants their top belt, he wants it so he can pay the ultimate tribute to his dad (in his mindset), and the whole leaving WWE in the first place was to prove to Vince that he was good enough to be the sort of guy who wins the WWE Championship. It took longer than expected when AEW started up, but everyone has one dream role in their life, and his can only be got at in WWE. He could have won the world championship in AEW, but he refused to do so. He could have easily made a run at the belt after a few people had held the title, but the fact he did that out the gate, with no chance of ever going back on it, killed his momentum in the company quicker than I think he could have ever imagined. You can only win or have a run with the TNT title so many times, and the midcard feuds weren't clicking, he essentially refused to be in the main event after the MJF feud if you could consider that a Main Event deal. Closest he got again was Brodie. It caused a creative rift, it caused a distancing with the people who started AEW, it was almost like self-sabotage in a way, that decision kinda marked Cody's path to here, imo more than the supposed WWE Title dream imo. His father was never WWE Champion, winning the NWA Title felt more like him achieving the dream of his dad than anything else. Winning the AEW title in the right storyline would have paid more tribute to his dad than anything else, if he wins the big one in WWE, then that'd be nice I guess, but I'm really not going to be shocked if he's booked into a crater and never even sniffs it, especially with how Roman is outright dominating the scene right now.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Mar 22, 2022 6:12:15 GMT -5
Why is it surprising Cody Rhodes has returned? I refer you all to his public letter on leaving WWE: "My goal in wrestling is to win the WWE Championship". He wants their top belt, he wants it so he can pay the ultimate tribute to his dad (in his mindset), and the whole leaving WWE in the first place was to prove to Vince that he was good enough to be the sort of guy who wins the WWE Championship. It took longer than expected when AEW started up, but everyone has one dream role in their life, and his can only be got at in WWE. He could have won the world championship in AEW, but he refused to do so. He could have easily made a run at the belt after a few people had held the title, but the fact he did that out the gate, with no chance of ever going back on it, killed his momentum in the company quicker than I think he could have ever imagined. You can only win or have a run with the TNT title so many times, and the midcard feuds weren't clicking, he essentially refused to be in the main event after the MJF feud if you could consider that a Main Event deal. Closest he got again was Brodie. It caused a creative rift, it caused a distancing with the people who started AEW, it was almost like self-sabotage in a way, that decision kinda marked Cody's path to here, imo more than the supposed WWE Title dream imo. His father was never WWE Champion, winning the NWA Title felt more like him achieving the dream of his dad than anything else. Winning the AEW title in the right storyline would have paid more tribute to his dad than anything else, if he wins the big one in WWE, then that'd be nice I guess, but I'm really not going to be shocked if he's booked into a crater and never even sniffs it, especially with how Roman is outright dominating the scene right now. According to who?
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 22, 2022 6:35:40 GMT -5
He could have won the world championship in AEW, but he refused to do so. He could have easily made a run at the belt after a few people had held the title, but the fact he did that out the gate, with no chance of ever going back on it, killed his momentum in the company quicker than I think he could have ever imagined. You can only win or have a run with the TNT title so many times, and the midcard feuds weren't clicking, he essentially refused to be in the main event after the MJF feud if you could consider that a Main Event deal. Closest he got again was Brodie. It caused a creative rift, it caused a distancing with the people who started AEW, it was almost like self-sabotage in a way, that decision kinda marked Cody's path to here, imo more than the supposed WWE Title dream imo. His father was never WWE Champion, winning the NWA Title felt more like him achieving the dream of his dad than anything else. Winning the AEW title in the right storyline would have paid more tribute to his dad than anything else, if he wins the big one in WWE, then that'd be nice I guess, but I'm really not going to be shocked if he's booked into a crater and never even sniffs it, especially with how Roman is outright dominating the scene right now. According to who? Yeah, the NWA title existed when he wrote the letter about what his goal was. I wouldn’t be surprised if his ultimate goal is still WWE Champion. It’s the pinnacle still in terms of exposure and kayfabe achievement.
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Post by Nosnorb on Mar 22, 2022 6:40:16 GMT -5
Yeah, the NWA title existed when he wrote the letter about what his goal was. I wouldn’t be surprised if his ultimate goal is still WWE Champion. It’s the pinnacle still in terms of exposure and kayfabe achievement. Since Smackdown became the A show, it's been the Universal Title that's been the top title, so I could see Cody making winning that his goal. Of course, he probably has a lot better chance winning the WWE Title than taking the Universal from the iron grip of Roman.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Mar 22, 2022 6:54:57 GMT -5
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Post by msc on Mar 22, 2022 6:56:46 GMT -5
With all due respect to them, the Universal title and the AEW title are not the WWE title. Peter O'Toole won a BAFTA (which is clearly the better award, ahem) but he really wanted that Oscar.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 22, 2022 7:24:26 GMT -5
This may have already been posted, but it feels relevant to the above discussion. I mean again, we'll see what happens. I don't WANT Cody to fail, but I also feel correct in keeping the expectations very low
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Post by bob on Mar 22, 2022 9:18:35 GMT -5
ADRENALINE FUEL IN MY SOUL!
WHERE THE HECK IS CODY RHODES???
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 22, 2022 10:37:13 GMT -5
Meltzer on Observer Radio was oddly cryptic on where this storyline is headed with Cody and hinted at twists and turns. I don't know what he meant but it seemed to suggest it's more than just "Cody shows up to face Seth and they do a match"
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 22, 2022 10:38:54 GMT -5
Meltzer on Observer Radio was oddly cryptic on where this storyline is headed with Cody and hinted at twists and turns. I don't know what he meant but it seemed to suggest it's more than just "Cody shows up to face Seth and they do a match" Oh God, don't get Seth to talk about Dead babies too...
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Post by Kalmia on Mar 22, 2022 10:41:21 GMT -5
Meltzer on Observer Radio was oddly cryptic on where this storyline is headed with Cody and hinted at twists and turns. I don't know what he meant but it seemed to suggest it's more than just "Cody shows up to face Seth and they do a match" If wouldn't be current Cody if it didn't have some twists and turns!
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Post by 06vwgti on Mar 22, 2022 10:55:12 GMT -5
We're getting overbooked Codyverse in the wwe!
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Mar 22, 2022 11:09:53 GMT -5
I can't wait to see what Vince-greenlit Codyverse looks like. I'm not joking. It'll at least be new.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2022 11:26:09 GMT -5
I'm honestly not surprised that Cody's back in WWE because for as much as he towed the AEW line, as much as he helped create it, at the end of the day his whole exit/indie journey/AEW career has really felt, to me, as partially a "see Vince, I can be who you said I could be" type of thing. Again, partially. Part of it is pride, part of it is creative control but another part of it is that he just wasn't "good enough" to a degree. I've said it before but in 2011-2012 Vince really wanted to push Cody to that main event level but it just never happened. He just didn't have what Vince ultimately wanted then. Cody then left years later, became who he was destined to be and now this Cody can rightfully take his spot. Dusty wasn't champion, Cody wasn't champion, yeah, Cody took that personally.
As dope as AEW is, even if he became AEW World Champion, that's just not being WWE Champion. The WWE Title has that history to it and it's also a belt that in a weird way has a sort of "you're not supposed to be here" type of aura to it. This company's booking and Vince's mindset is so erratic that you even becoming WWE Champion is like a Holy Grail and sure, part of it is due to being champion but another part of it is that to be WWE Champion you'd have to defy logic whether that logic is Vince's original mindset towards you or the logic of hell, even the fans. It's a weird title these days. It's just far harder to get than other world titles if you look at everything surrounding it. In other companies you can be the best wrestler, talker and just have the coolest moves and eventually you'd be world champion. In WWE it doesn't work like that.
Cody just wants that belt because out of everything he can say "I became WWE Champion, the one champion that says that even Vince with his crazy mindset couldn't deny me."
That's just a mindset a ton of wrestlers have. It's why they join the company expecting to make change, it's why they re-sign for more money because they'll always get more exposure, it's why a lot of people continue to love it. It means something.
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 22, 2022 12:13:35 GMT -5
Meltzer on Observer Radio was oddly cryptic on where this storyline is headed with Cody and hinted at twists and turns. I don't know what he meant but it seemed to suggest it's more than just "Cody shows up to face Seth and they do a match" What did he say that was cryptic?
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Post by Kalmia on Mar 22, 2022 12:20:15 GMT -5
I can't wait to see what Vince-greenlit Codyverse looks like. I'm not joking. It'll at least be new. If Cody comes into WWE and just easily slips into the plans, I have no interest in watching. If Cody comes into WWE in full chaos Cody-verse mode, I might watch. Chaos Cody = ratings
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Post by stoptheclocks on Mar 22, 2022 12:22:26 GMT -5
This may have already been posted, but it feels relevant to the above discussion. I mean again, we'll see what happens. I don't WANT Cody to fail, but I also feel correct in keeping the expectations very low Sure, but I think it's best always to remember that these peoples experience living this is 100% different to ours watching it. And just because you might think that the WWE is a complete clown show that's on the slide and making shit TV, that doesn't mean that to others it isn't still the pinnacle of the industry. We just don't know.
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