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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Apr 26, 2022 14:18:05 GMT -5
Personally, I think they should go all in and have a 2007 Cena type of push. WWE has not had a dominant, just takes all comers and overcomes the odds champion in a long time. It's what this company has always been about.
So go all-in with her.
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Post by mistery on Apr 26, 2022 14:25:36 GMT -5
Personally, I think they should go all in and have a 2007 Cena type of push. WWE has not had a dominant, just takes all comers and overcomes the odds champion in a long time. It's what this company has always been about. So go all-in with her. Eh. Them having Bianca run over the women's division would do way more harm than good. Keep in mind her last Smackdown reign had fatigue set in fairly quickly because they had her completely decimate the division. And she looks to be on track to do the same on RAW. Eventually fans are going to turn on her, and it'll get real ugly then. It's why I think her reign shouldn't last beyond Summerslam at this point. And to move the spotlight onto other women, including some potential callups. The last thing I really need or want to see is yet another Bianca coronation at Wrestlemania next year. It's time to start building up other women to be big stars.
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 26, 2022 14:30:48 GMT -5
Personally, I think they should go all in and have a 2007 Cena type of push. WWE has not had a dominant, just takes all comers and overcomes the odds champion in a long time. It's what this company has always been about. So go all-in with her. Eh. Them having Bianca run over the women's division would do way more harm than good. Keep in mind her last Smackdown reign had fatigue set in fairly quickly because they had her completely decimate the division. And she looks to be on track to do the same on RAW. Eventually fans are going to turn on her, and it'll get real ugly then. It's why I think her reign shouldn't last beyond Summerslam at this point. And to move the spotlight onto other women, including some potential callups. The last thing I really need or want to see is yet another Bianca coronation at Wrestlemania next year. It's time to start building up other women to be big stars. She’s been a main event star for like a year, year and a few months. It is definitely not time to move onto building the next big star. You have to let the stars maintain that status for a while, otherwise you’d never have individuals become legends of the industry.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2022 14:31:50 GMT -5
Personally, I think they should go all in and have a 2007 Cena type of push. WWE has not had a dominant, just takes all comers and overcomes the odds champion in a long time. It's what this company has always been about. So go all-in with her. The last reign like that that was actually really well done was Io's reign. And the big difference is that she was never booked as super woman infact the majority of the time she was getting her ass beat in the build ups but when it came time to defend she was always shown to be atleast a step above all her challengers. Bianca is already off to not the best start with super cena overcoming 3 other woman even if they are sonya , zelina and carmella but also no selling getting DDT'd on a chair only to no sell and win the match booking.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Apr 26, 2022 14:33:42 GMT -5
Personally, I think they should go all in and have a 2007 Cena type of push. WWE has not had a dominant, just takes all comers and overcomes the odds champion in a long time. It's what this company has always been about. So go all-in with her. Problem with that is Bianca has pretty much beaten the entire womens division of Raw already besides Asuka and Rhea,it's gonna be hard to stretch a long dominant reign the way they have such a small roster to use.
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 26, 2022 14:34:48 GMT -5
Her mega push actually started in late 2020.
The issue is that there are not that many “comers” to challenge her. She’s beaten most of them decisively. Would anyone buy Sonya, Liv, Mella, Zelina, Doudrop as legit threats to her at this point? No, of course not.
Rhea maybe, but Bianca has pinned her repeatedly already as well. So you have like 4 women tops (Becky, who she’s already beaten, Rhea diddo, Alexa again already beaten and has not been seen at all since EC, and Asuka depending on how the Becky feud goes) who feel like they could conceivably beat her. The division does not have enough depth to super push one person so much. SD is suffering HARD with that right now because WWE’s obsession with Charlotte and Ronda.
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Post by mistery on Apr 26, 2022 14:42:41 GMT -5
Eh. Them having Bianca run over the women's division would do way more harm than good. Keep in mind her last Smackdown reign had fatigue set in fairly quickly because they had her completely decimate the division. And she looks to be on track to do the same on RAW. Eventually fans are going to turn on her, and it'll get real ugly then. It's why I think her reign shouldn't last beyond Summerslam at this point. And to move the spotlight onto other women, including some potential callups. The last thing I really need or want to see is yet another Bianca coronation at Wrestlemania next year. It's time to start building up other women to be big stars. She’s been a main event star for like a year, year and a few months. It is definitely not time to move onto building the next big star. You have to let the stars maintain that status for a while, otherwise you’d never have individuals become legends of the industry. Again, fatigue is setting in. No one is saying that she needs to move down to the midcard, but that WWE really needs to make more stars on her level. Because right now, absolutely no one in the entire company looks like a threat to Bianca. It doesn't help that they basically Super Cena'd her last night against Sonya. And it makes it hard to believe that ANYONE is going to beat her. It's not good booking when the woman she is feuding with, no one believes she'll lose to them, and said woman has zero real credibility as a result. Like Fenderbaum said, her eating a DDT on a chair last night and kicking out fairly easily was really bad. And I'm saying fatigue is setting in because her promos and mannerisms are basically the exact same thing every week. She comes out, talks about how she's the EST, chases off a heel, and dances and celebrates in the ring. Sometimes she'll get laid out, but then she'll just bulldoze over the person who laid her out like a week or two later. And as of right now, absolutely no one looks like a threat to her. So it's time to either seriously nerf Bianca, or start massively raising the stock of other women (meaning women like Rhea, and then callups like Io) to Bianca's level. Because otherwise, this reign is gonna suck.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2022 14:48:44 GMT -5
Honestly?
Ronda or Charlotte. Watch one of them win MITB and cash in on her and get the belt. Sadly that'll probably happen. In reality she hasn't feuded with Asuka, Rhea, Liv, I mean there's women for her to face. She hasn't faced Tamina aka the big bad6 they always throw at a babyface. She has at least a good amount she can feud with and that isn't counting Bayley. Oh, also Shayna, Nikki ASH. There's women out there. I don't wanna hear about how she has no opponents when I've named 6 women she can face.
But she will be beaten by Ronda or Charlotte because I see no one else getting that briefcase.
Rhea would be best though. They're money together.
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Post by lildude8218 on Apr 26, 2022 14:49:56 GMT -5
Rhea and her new manager Malcolm Bivens confront Bianca on the Brother Love Show. They blind Bianca with something and Rhea uses a pair of handcuffs off her gear to cuff Bianca to a guardrail. She then beats her with a nightstick. They take it around the house show loop.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Apr 26, 2022 14:52:30 GMT -5
Personally, I think they should go all in and have a 2007 Cena type of push. WWE has not had a dominant, just takes all comers and overcomes the odds champion in a long time. It's what this company has always been about. So go all-in with her. Problem with that is Bianca has pretty much beaten the entire womens division of Raw already besides Asuka and Rhea,it's gonna be hard to stretch a long-dominant reign the way they have such a small roster to use. Meh, not really. Could easily do a Sonya rematch at WMBL if they want or just not have her on the card. Could do an Asuka vs Bianca vs Becky Triple Threat at HITC. One Final Blow-Off Match with Becky at MITB? Or a match with Asuka? vs Rhea at Summerslam(which you could either have Rhea win or set up a rematch for the next stadium show in the UK). You could easily get to Summerslam and she wouldn't have either truly repeat matches other than a Becky rematch. Then if you wanted to do a year-long reign, you could do her vs Rhea & another woman at the September show. She vs Raquel could be a good feud for October. She vs Rhonda or Sasha at Survivor Series and then another Raquel match at December. Filler Feud at Royal Rumble against idk Carmella or Shotzi. Then you could go into a Charlotte feud for Mania. You could easily get her to Mania next year as a dominant champion if you wanted to. Not saying that they should do that, but she has plenty of challengers especially going into the Summer/Fall when they do the Draft.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Apr 26, 2022 14:55:53 GMT -5
She’s been a main event star for like a year, year and a few months. It is definitely not time to move onto building the next big star. You have to let the stars maintain that status for a while, otherwise you’d never have individuals become legends of the industry. Again, fatigue is setting in. No one is saying that she needs to move down to the midcard, but that WWE really needs to make more stars on her level. Because right now, absolutely no one in the entire company looks like a threat to Bianca. It doesn't help that they basically Super Cena'd her last night against Sonya. And it makes it hard to believe that ANYONE is going to beat her. It's not good booking when the woman she is feuding with, no one believes she'll lose to them, and said woman has zero real credibility as a result. Like Fenderbaum said, her eating a DDT on a chair last night and kicking out fairly easily was really bad. And I'm saying fatigue is setting in because her promos and mannerisms are basically the exact same thing every week. She comes out, talks about how she's the EST, chases off a heel, and dances and celebrates in the ring. Sometimes she'll get laid out, but then she'll just bulldoze over the person who laid her out like a week or two later. And as of right now, absolutely no one looks like a threat to her. So it's time to either seriously nerf Bianca, or start massively raising the stock of other women (meaning women like Rhea, and then callups like Io) to Bianca's level. Because otherwise, this reign is gonna suck. You keep saying fatigue is setting in? But how do we know that's true? Outside of one arena, she's getting pops & EST chants. Her segments have been doing fine ratings-wise. So where is this supposed fatigue coming from?
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 26, 2022 15:28:13 GMT -5
Again, fatigue is setting in. No one is saying that she needs to move down to the midcard, but that WWE really needs to make more stars on her level. Because right now, absolutely no one in the entire company looks like a threat to Bianca. It doesn't help that they basically Super Cena'd her last night against Sonya. And it makes it hard to believe that ANYONE is going to beat her. It's not good booking when the woman she is feuding with, no one believes she'll lose to them, and said woman has zero real credibility as a result. Like Fenderbaum said, her eating a DDT on a chair last night and kicking out fairly easily was really bad. And I'm saying fatigue is setting in because her promos and mannerisms are basically the exact same thing every week. She comes out, talks about how she's the EST, chases off a heel, and dances and celebrates in the ring. Sometimes she'll get laid out, but then she'll just bulldoze over the person who laid her out like a week or two later. And as of right now, absolutely no one looks like a threat to her. So it's time to either seriously nerf Bianca, or start massively raising the stock of other women (meaning women like Rhea, and then callups like Io) to Bianca's level. Because otherwise, this reign is gonna suck. You keep saying fatigue is setting in? But how do we know that's true? Outside of one arena, she's getting pops & EST chants. Her segments have been doing fine ratings-wise. So where is this supposed fatigue coming from? It’s imagined fatigue if we’re trying to say there’s fatigue on a grand scale. Might be true of some select fans of course but Bianca seems over almost everywhere they go.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 26, 2022 15:34:14 GMT -5
Rhea and her new manager Malcolm Bivens confront Bianca on the Brother Love Show. They blind Bianca with something and Rhea uses a pair of handcuffs off her gear to cuff Bianca to a guardrail. She then beats her with a nightstick. They take it around the house show loop. Also Bivens starts managing Raquel Gonzalez and teams her up with Rhea with the two collectively being known as the Towers of Power. Bianca then starts teaming with Becky out of respect to form the the Ultra Powers. Unfortunately the Ultra Powers split up when Becky gets paranoid that Bianca is making a move on Seth Rollins.
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Post by lildude8218 on Apr 26, 2022 16:24:55 GMT -5
Rhea and her new manager Malcolm Bivens confront Bianca on the Brother Love Show. They blind Bianca with something and Rhea uses a pair of handcuffs off her gear to cuff Bianca to a guardrail. She then beats her with a nightstick. They take it around the house show loop. Also Bivens starts managing Raquel Gonzalez and teams her up with Rhea with the two collectively being known as the Towers of Power. Bianca then starts teaming with Becky out of respect to form the the Ultra Powers. Unfortunately the Ultra Powers split up when Becky gets paranoid that Bianca is making a move on Seth Rollins. Bianca carries Seth to the back after Becky gets thrown out of the ring and knocks Seth out cold. Becky attacks Bianca but Naomi briefly interrupts her before officials can get in. Bianca then goes screaming through the halls looking for Becky and attacks Nikki A.S.H., Dana Brooke, Aliyah, and Natalya while asking them where Becky went.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2022 16:39:03 GMT -5
Rhea and her new manager Malcolm Bivens confront Bianca on the Brother Love Show. They blind Bianca with something and Rhea uses a pair of handcuffs off her gear to cuff Bianca to a guardrail. She then beats her with a nightstick. They take it around the house show loop. Also Bivens starts managing Raquel Gonzalez and teams her up with Rhea with the two collectively being known as the Towers of Power. Bianca then starts teaming with Becky out of respect to form the the Ultra Powers. Unfortunately the Ultra Powers split up when Becky gets paranoid that Bianca is making a move on Seth Rollins. Meanwhile, Montez Ford continues wrestling Alpha Academy and RK-Bro and acts like he doesn't know what's going on.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 26, 2022 17:33:01 GMT -5
Also Bivens starts managing Raquel Gonzalez and teams her up with Rhea with the two collectively being known as the Towers of Power. Bianca then starts teaming with Becky out of respect to form the the Ultra Powers. Unfortunately the Ultra Powers split up when Becky gets paranoid that Bianca is making a move on Seth Rollins. Bianca carries Seth to the back after Becky gets thrown out of the ring and knocks Seth out cold. Becky attacks Bianca but Naomi briefly interrupts her before officials can get in. Bianca then goes screaming through the halls looking for Becky and attacks Nikki A.S.H., Dana Brooke, Aliyah, and Natalya while asking them where Becky went. Also Bianca forgetting they are on air and asking for "tiz-ime" and a countdown before crying and acting like Seth's on his dead bed while pleading to him "that Becky didn't mean it". Also Naomi at first walks in with a shirt on before deciding to leave and come back seconds later with no shirt to ask Becky what she's doing before getting punched in face.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 26, 2022 18:05:24 GMT -5
Honestly? Ronda or Charlotte. Watch one of them win MITB and cash in on her and get the belt. Sadly that'll probably happen. In reality she hasn't feuded with Asuka, Rhea, Liv, I mean there's women for her to face. She hasn't faced Tamina aka the big bad6 they always throw at a babyface. She has at least a good amount she can feud with and that isn't counting Bayley. Oh, also Shayna, Nikki ASH. There's women out there. I don't wanna hear about how she has no opponents when I've named 6 women she can face. But she will be beaten by Ronda or Charlotte because I see no one else getting that briefcase. Rhea would be best though. They're money together. All those you mentioned are women she's already beat handily and/or don't have any credibility. People bring up Bayley but always forget that they feuded last year with Bianca dominating her and beating her on two PPV's and if not for Bayley getting hurt would've beat her in a third that had no business happening and only was taking place because they had literally no one else that had been built up enough to be a title challenger. Also is seriously any one going to buy Nikki ASH as any kind of threat to Bianca at this point? Really the only women on the roster she hasn't beat that have credibility are Ronda, Charlotte, Asuka, and Raquel Gonzalez and three of those four are on the other brand at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2022 18:39:24 GMT -5
Honestly? Ronda or Charlotte. Watch one of them win MITB and cash in on her and get the belt. Sadly that'll probably happen. In reality she hasn't feuded with Asuka, Rhea, Liv, I mean there's women for her to face. She hasn't faced Tamina aka the big bad6 they always throw at a babyface. She has at least a good amount she can feud with and that isn't counting Bayley. Oh, also Shayna, Nikki ASH. There's women out there. I don't wanna hear about how she has no opponents when I've named 6 women she can face. But she will be beaten by Ronda or Charlotte because I see no one else getting that briefcase. Rhea would be best though. They're money together. All those you mentioned are women she's already beat handily and/or don't have any credibility. People bring up Bayley but always forget that they feuded last year with Bianca dominating her and beating her on two PPV's and if not for Bayley getting hurt would've beat her in a third that had no business happening and only was taking place because they had literally no one else that had been built up enough to be a title challenger. Also is seriously any one going to buy Nikki ASH as any kind of threat to Bianca at this point? Really the only women on the roster she hasn't beat that have credibility are Ronda, Charlotte, Asuka, and Raquel Gonzalez and three of those four are on the other brand at the moment. Nah, you can't excuse some people just because they've had one-off matches let alone people who are returning from injury. In Bayley's case, anyone who returns from injury is automatically fresh so it doesn't matter if they've feuded in the past as it's a new Bayley. As for the others, we can go down the list.
Rhea = She beat face Rhea in a gauntlet match after Rhea had already beaten 3 women and Bianca came in fresh. We haven't seen a heel Rhea face Bianca so it would be a good dynamic. This is an easy feud.
Liv = She faced her once in a Tribute to the Troops match last year where Bianca won but this was before Liv's push and even in that match Bianca was having trouble with her. This also happened before that 5-Way they had where Liv won and Bianca was part of it. Liv's gotten a bigger push since their match and they still haven't had a full feud.
Tamina = Bianca beat her once but that was in the middle of a Doudrop and Nattie feud. It's easy to do a "hey Tamina wants to go for the belt one last time before she's out" feud.
Bayley = A returning from injury Bayley is a great opponent to feud with. Anyone who returns from injury's automatically fresh in fans' eyes.
Shayna = She was doing the whole Nia/Reggie thing and that Shayna's different from the singles competitor that destroyed Nia and was biting Becky.
Nikki ASH = She lost clean on Raw a few months ago. Out of this list the best ones are Rhea, Liv, a returning Bayley, Shayna and then the others like Asuka or Charlotte or Ronda who can win the title. Tamina and Nikki are harder feuds to sell but if they wanted to, they could do it since they haven't fully feuded.
For decades we've seen people go from nothing's to being able to feud with someone in 1 month so we can't use that excuse to say they can't face Bianca. The only ones who can't face her are those who have feuded with her recently enough to where it wouldn't make sense and that's been Becky and that's been Sasha. All the others are fair game.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 27, 2022 4:27:24 GMT -5
Personally, I think they should go all in and have a 2007 Cena type of push. WWE has not had a dominant, just takes all comers and overcomes the odds champion in a long time. It's what this company has always been about. So go all-in with her. Eh. Them having Bianca run over the women's division would do way more harm than good. Keep in mind her last Smackdown reign had fatigue set in fairly quickly because they had her completely decimate the division. And she looks to be on track to do the same on RAW. Eventually fans are going to turn on her, and it'll get real ugly then. It's why I think her reign shouldn't last beyond Summerslam at this point. And to move the spotlight onto other women, including some potential callups. The last thing I really need or want to see is yet another Bianca coronation at Wrestlemania next year. It's time to start building up other women to be big stars. Wrestlers don’t get coronated twice, that’s a myth. Same with Roman. He was coronated at WM32 and that was it. I say give Bianca the SuperBianca push. Faces who win are good for business.
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 27, 2022 7:52:04 GMT -5
It’s not just about “getting her an opponent” either. It’s trying to build even SOME tension. This is the same issue with Roman right now,
No offense to Shayna, Liv, Tamina, etc. this is not a slight on them. But NO ONE would buy that they have a prayer of beating Bianca if they faced off.
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