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Post by James Fabiano on Apr 15, 2022 10:30:12 GMT -5
You might say they save this beef for anyone from NXT.
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Post by sportatorium on Apr 15, 2022 13:27:23 GMT -5
I think his view of Cody is that he's still one of his homegrown talents. Regardless of where he went and what he did. I'm sure Cody knows how to work it and appear "grateful" to be back.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Apr 15, 2022 13:33:10 GMT -5
AJ has been treated well, Cody seems to be getting treated well. I guess it’s because wwe has real competition now, but has this ever really even been that much of an issue? Booker T and Goldberg were also treated well back in the 2000s Hell…Goldberg has been treated better lately than he did in that first run. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2022 13:37:42 GMT -5
Cody is a WWE made guy. It's not like he's DDP or Sting here.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 15, 2022 14:47:45 GMT -5
I don't know if Jerry and Jeff Jarrett ever commented on it one way or another, but I know that it's been suggested that part of why they even founded TNA was not to give Jeff somewhere to be the main attraction, even if that was part of it. Rather, it was supposedly to try to get it going for a few years and present it to WWE to buy out. The guy they put in charge of PPVs grossly misled Jeff about the revenue stream, leading to racking up debts and needing to sell to Dixie instead, rather than being able to bargain from a strong position with WWE. I have zero idea if that's more than speculation from people, though. Still, had that happened, there is definitely a time period where I could have seen Jeff getting some last run with WWE, and while I don't really picture them putting a world title on him for it, it'd have been quite the alternate history. So I'm listening to a TNA history podcast (You've Got to Be Kidding Me, going through TNA history one month at a time, highly recommended) and it really doesn't seem to be like that. The guy put in charge of PPVs was also doing WWE's PPVs at the same time, hence the lying about revenue streams and the tonne of cost-cutting before the Panda purchase. That's not to say it was fully a Jeff Jarrett vehicle as much as I guess a company trying to fill the vacuum of the Monday Night Wars ending the saw way the WWA, the XWF etc tried and failed to do. I’m totally gonna check out that podcast, nearly had a stroke when I saw I was 3 years behind but I guess most of that was a different podcast that changed its name, and I’m only like 30 episodes behind. As a big, big, big TNA/Impact fan from 2002-2012ish I’m very excited to dive in to this |
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Post by eJm on Apr 15, 2022 14:52:03 GMT -5
So I'm listening to a TNA history podcast (You've Got to Be Kidding Me, going through TNA history one month at a time, highly recommended) and it really doesn't seem to be like that. The guy put in charge of PPVs was also doing WWE's PPVs at the same time, hence the lying about revenue streams and the tonne of cost-cutting before the Panda purchase. That's not to say it was fully a Jeff Jarrett vehicle as much as I guess a company trying to fill the vacuum of the Monday Night Wars ending the saw way the WWA, the XWF etc tried and failed to do. I’m totally gonna check out that podcast, nearly had a stroke when I saw I was 3 years behind but I guess most of that was a different podcast that changed its name, and I’m only like 30 episodes behind. As a big, big, big TNA/Impact fan from 2002-2012ish I’m very excited to dive in to this It’s a lot of fun. The whiplash in terms of what the company was when Russo started and left to where it is in the latest episode might give you a bit of neck pain listening to them back to back, though. |
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Post by Citizen Snips on Apr 15, 2022 16:07:05 GMT -5
Booker T had some extremely rough booking, and of course there was that feud with Triple H. The one year run of Goldberg was no great shakes either. With Cody, my guess is that Vince and/or his goons see a lot more in Cody than they did with AJ and know they have to push him as a big star. And at this stage, Cody has been booked a lot stronger than AJ was and has been made to look like a much bigger star. AJ lost to Jericho in his first WM match and has also lost on Free TV, Cody won his against Seth and has yet to lose on Free TV. Biggest difference is that now WWE is no longer the only game in town, and they have to push Cody as a star to show AEW talent that they will be pushed in WWE. WWE didn't have as much incentive to push Styles because the likes of Eric Young and Bobby Roode would still have signed.
Let's also keep in mind AJ started to get a monster push to main events and headline matches after he took Roman to the limit. Cody getting a harder push than Styles would actually bode well for him quite a bit. Yeah, after the questionable loss to Jericho at Mania, they strapped a rocket to AJ. Culminating in him beating Cena clean at Summerslam and then beating Ambrose for the title the next month. |
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Apr 15, 2022 16:28:29 GMT -5
Cody coming in was the perfect situation for them considering how thin they actually are for top stars. He was guy who came in, already a star that had a ton of buzz coming in, even if the buzz was polarizing.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 15, 2022 17:01:36 GMT -5
I think Vince always treated better "jumping ships" than "you have no options".
As long you are WILLING and not because you had no other options
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 15, 2022 19:22:56 GMT -5
There is no way Vince is over this level of pettiness, Vince isn't even the worst example of it in wrestling history, just the one who stayed in business longest and had the biggest shot and so left the most money on the table. AJ has been treated well, Cody seems to be getting treated well. I guess it’s because wwe has real competition now, but has this ever really even been that much of an issue? Booker T and Goldberg were also treated well back in the 2000s Hell…Goldberg has been treated better lately than he did in that first run. Because they definitely need him more than he needs them. |
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