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Post by Dub H on Apr 22, 2022 23:23:57 GMT -5
If you serious think Ambrose is an A+ talent, then we'll never agree. Yeah we won't lol. It's all good. I said he's A+ because he was that great with his booking so if you give him good booking (and see what he's done outside of WWE) then yeah, it makes sense. Either way if you don't agree then hey we got nothing else to talk about.
Not just you but any others who I've seen over the past few years, I don't see how anyone can say he wasn't misused. That Nosnorb post with his record is insane. The argument in WWE of "well he won X title" really means almost nothing in the end and that tell you a lot in WWE. And to be fair his SD!Live 2016 Run was very well booked, untilw ell,they decided everything that worked wonderfully on SD! Live that was seeing RISING RATINGS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A DECADE AND A HALF should stop Yes i'm still completely confused
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2022 23:50:17 GMT -5
Yeah we won't lol. It's all good. I said he's A+ because he was that great with his booking so if you give him good booking (and see what he's done outside of WWE) then yeah, it makes sense. Either way if you don't agree then hey we got nothing else to talk about.
Not just you but any others who I've seen over the past few years, I don't see how anyone can say he wasn't misused. That Nosnorb post with his record is insane. The argument in WWE of "well he won X title" really means almost nothing in the end and that tell you a lot in WWE. And to be fair his SD!Live 2016 Run was very well booked, untilw ell,they decided everything that worked wonderfully on SD! Live that was seeing RISING RATINGS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A DECADE AND A HALF should stop Yes i'm still completely confused Yeah, I mean he went on to face Corbin of all people at WM on the Kickoff which was a few months from being WWE Champion. That was his only singles WM victory. Just, man what a weird career in the WWE for him.
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Post by Jayson Tatum Paxley on Apr 22, 2022 23:52:44 GMT -5
The argument in WWE of "well he won X title" really means almost nothing in the end and that tell you a lot in WWE. And to be fair his SD!Live 2016 Run was very well booked, untilw ell,they decided everything that worked wonderfully on SD! Live that was seeing RISING RATINGS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A DECADE AND A HALF should stop Yes i'm still completely confused Yeah, I mean he went on to face Corbin of all people at WM on the Kickoff which was a few months from being WWE Champion. That was his only singles WM victory. Just, man what a weird career in the WWE for him. I remember both of them looked so pissed off to be on the preshow too
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2022 0:11:41 GMT -5
Yeah, I mean he went on to face Corbin of all people at WM on the Kickoff which was a few months from being WWE Champion. That was his only singles WM victory. Just, man what a weird career in the WWE for him. I remember both of them looked so pissed off to be on the preshow too They made them do that street fight match on SD just a few days later. Like that was gonna make up for WM lol.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 23, 2022 11:47:04 GMT -5
Goddamn am I sick of this narrative that Ambrose was misused. The dude was a WWE World Champion. He won the Shield 3 way. He f***ing PINNED CENA CLEAN! So? He held the WWE Title for the same amount of days as Del Rio did. He pinned Cena clean on a random SD rather than a big ppv event like when Reign and Rollins beat him. Yeah, Ambrose got some things but that wasn't near to the level he should have. Say he was WWE Champion for 6 months, say he had a huge heel run, say he beat Cena at a Royal Rumble. Say he bleeds against Lesnar and he gets Brock's respect. Ambrose was an A- level talent for the years he was here but with great booking he could have been A+. They fumbled the ball. Just because he did some cool stuff doesn't mean that's the max that they could have done with him. He as a talent just turned the crap they gave him into gold because he's great like that. This. Ambrose had a very good run but there was *so much* meat left on the bone in terms of him as a main event player
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2022 12:05:44 GMT -5
So? He held the WWE Title for the same amount of days as Del Rio did. He pinned Cena clean on a random SD rather than a big ppv event like when Reign and Rollins beat him. Yeah, Ambrose got some things but that wasn't near to the level he should have. Say he was WWE Champion for 6 months, say he had a huge heel run, say he beat Cena at a Royal Rumble. Say he bleeds against Lesnar and he gets Brock's respect. Ambrose was an A- level talent for the years he was here but with great booking he could have been A+. They fumbled the ball. Just because he did some cool stuff doesn't mean that's the max that they could have done with him. He as a talent just turned the crap they gave him into gold because he's great like that. This. Ambrose had a very good run but there was *so much* meat left on the bone in terms of him as a main event player It's so interesting to see how he is in AEW, NJPW and other companies and then see how he was in WWE. Stuff like that one interview from him on Talk is Jericho. Post-WWE Jon Moxley is exactly what he wanted to be in WWE. He even tried to be this character once he returned from injury but they then turned him into "wild Dean Ambrose" again.
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Post by 67 more on Apr 23, 2022 12:23:25 GMT -5
I will never understand why a blade was way too extreme that night but legit splitting a man's head open with shoot elbows causing a concussion was fine and dandy.
Seriously, if you're going to OK blood hardway in such a disgusting manner, just let someone gig themselves open and save the brain trauma.
It sucked for Mox but at least he didn't lose any time. Orton was put out for two months with that stupid shit.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 23, 2022 15:26:27 GMT -5
This. Ambrose had a very good run but there was *so much* meat left on the bone in terms of him as a main event player It's so interesting to see how he is in AEW, NJPW and other companies and then see how he was in WWE. Stuff like that one interview from him on Talk is Jericho. Post-WWE Jon Moxley is exactly what he wanted to be in WWE. He even tried to be this character once he returned from injury but they then turned him into "wild Dean Ambrose" again. Two Things: Yeh Ambrose was a big hit out of the gate but he didnt "deserve" to get a shot at being a main player? And yeh this is something people have theoriezed happened many times If something is successfull, Vince hass to "make sure" he add his touch so it has to be..successfull. I'm sure he sees it as "working the kinks out" but all he does at best is dilute the character or product or at worst..Bearcat Lee
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