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Post by Legion on Apr 22, 2022 18:15:09 GMT -5
Listen to the offer, weight up it up, go with what's best for you at the time.
They don't owe anyone anything, they need to do whatever works best for them at the time
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Post by koreycaskets on Apr 22, 2022 18:18:01 GMT -5
The whole "aren't ever going back" thing when it comes to professional wrestling isn't really a thing. Everyone eventually does come back to WWE. It'll be 5 years plus but, FTR will be back one day. Hopefully HHH is running things then.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Apr 22, 2022 18:18:16 GMT -5
It's easy to see why WWE is interested in them now though. Before they left, WWE was largely unwilling to do anything with them since they were just serious no-frill wrestlers who put on great matches. It just wasn't the right fit. But after a few years away, they've completely transformed themselves to...wait...
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Post by Bo Rida on Apr 22, 2022 18:22:45 GMT -5
Tbf WWE always wanted them, what they think they're worth is possibly what's changed, both in terms of their contracts and importance on screen.
Purely on money it would be interesting to see what's better, WWE's offer or aew with a new TV deal and the freedom to make money elsewhere. I assume they get more if a.ppv does well too where's WWE is a flat fee but don't know for sure.
I can understand big money for Cody but can't see that for ftr.
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 22, 2022 19:39:08 GMT -5
It's easy to see why WWE is interested in them now though. Before they left, WWE was largely unwilling to do anything with them since they were just serious no-frill wrestlers who put on great matches. It just wasn't the right fit. But after a few years away, they've completely transformed themselves to...wait... They didn’t get cut, though. WWE always showed interest in keeping them, even if their ideas for them and how they would use them wasn’t what FTR wanted. Heck, they supposedly offered them 800K per year each. |
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Apr 22, 2022 19:42:49 GMT -5
It's easy to see why WWE is interested in them now though. Before they left, WWE was largely unwilling to do anything with them since they were just serious no-frill wrestlers who put on great matches. It just wasn't the right fit. But after a few years away, they've completely transformed themselves to...wait... They didn’t get cut, though. WWE always showed interest in keeping them, even if their ideas for them and how they would use them wasn’t what FTR wanted. Heck, they supposedly offered them 800K per year each. But they weren't doing anything significant with them. And that was an era when they were paying guys up and down the card money to stay despite having no significant plans. The Good Brothers got similar deals before getting cut. My point is that nothing has really changed between the Spring of 2020 and now. They're the same guys doing the same thing. If they were interested in using them the way FTR wanted, they would've done so earlier. Cody at least reinvented himself. FTR are still FTR. |
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 22, 2022 20:07:19 GMT -5
They didn’t get cut, though. WWE always showed interest in keeping them, even if their ideas for them and how they would use them wasn’t what FTR wanted. Heck, they supposedly offered them 800K per year each. But they weren't doing anything significant with them. And that was an era when they were paying guys up and down the card money to stay despite having no significant plans. The Good Brothers got similar deals before getting cut. My point is that nothing has really changed between the Spring of 2020 and now. They're the same guys doing the same thing. If they were interested in using them the way FTR wanted, they would've done so earlier. Cody at least reinvented himself. FTR are still FTR. I understand why FTR wouldn’t want to go back, but I thought your point was that WWE didn’t show interest. They pretty much always used The Revival when both were healthy, but didn’t emphasize the tag division the way they wanted, and also had some bad creative ideas going by those pictures that were released. Their contracts did expire around the same time WWE started making “budget cuts” again, though so I’m not sure they were in hoarding mode at the time. |
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Apr 22, 2022 20:09:11 GMT -5
But they weren't doing anything significant with them. And that was an era when they were paying guys up and down the card money to stay despite having no significant plans. The Good Brothers got similar deals before getting cut. My point is that nothing has really changed between the Spring of 2020 and now. They're the same guys doing the same thing. If they were interested in using them the way FTR wanted, they would've done so earlier. Cody at least reinvented himself. FTR are still FTR. I understand why FTR wouldn’t want to go back, but I thought your point was that WWE didn’t show interest. They pretty much always used The Revival when both were healthy, but didn’t emphasize the tag division the way they wanted, and also had some bad creative ideas going by those pictures that were released. Their contracts did expire around the same time WWE started making “budget cuts” again, though so I’m not sure they were in hoarding mode at the time. Yeah, it's a fine line between wanting them under your umbrella and actually wanting to use you in a meaningful way. They may want the former but not the latter. And I think FTR know that but at least they can use this to get more money so good for them. |
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 22, 2022 20:18:29 GMT -5
I understand why FTR wouldn’t want to go back, but I thought your point was that WWE didn’t show interest. They pretty much always used The Revival when both were healthy, but didn’t emphasize the tag division the way they wanted, and also had some bad creative ideas going by those pictures that were released. Their contracts did expire around the same time WWE started making “budget cuts” again, though so I’m not sure they were in hoarding mode at the time. Yeah, it's a fine line between wanting them under your umbrella and actually wanting to use you in a meaningful way. They may want the former but not the latter. And I think FTR know that but at least they can use this to get more money so good for them. I never got the sense that WWE didn’t want to use Revival in meaningful ways. They always seemed to be in the thick of things either for the titles, the short team up with Orton, etc. They had some goofy angles too but I don’t remember them being healthy and sitting on the sidelines. They had the injury bug cutting off their momentum a lot too. I think the Revival just really wanted the whole division presented differently than what WWE was willing to do. |
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Apr 22, 2022 20:27:37 GMT -5
Saw the title and immediately thought "the WWE has already forgotten that they had FTR before?"
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 22, 2022 23:01:01 GMT -5
For me: "If the circumstances are right" = not now, but let's see who runs the WWE in 5 years time. Its as impossible to say what the WWE will be like after the almighty power struggle that will kick off in the near future, as to predict when it will happen. For all I know, the Papa H "We're Really Sorry about Johnny Ace and Nick Khan, it was all their fault, honest" world tour turns out a massive PR success. I'm sure if Triple H gets control of the company it would be a massively different conversation for FTR. They would trust him and he'd be making hard moves to get back his boys and probably a fair few WWE washouts he pushed hard in the black and gold days. I just don't know how realistic that looks in the current climate. Yeah, NXT went from let's show that HHH can carry the company in the future when Vince retires too... Vince is never retiring... so let's take all of HHH's power away... so I don't see HHH taking over any time soon unless something seriously happens to Vince... |
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Post by Glitch on Apr 24, 2022 22:05:22 GMT -5
The whole "aren't ever going back" thing when it comes to professional wrestling isn't really a thing. Everyone eventually does come back to WWE. It'll be 5 years plus but, FTR will be back one day. Hopefully HHH is running things then. That would be true if Vince still had a monopoly on pro-wrestling. It was easy to get anybody to return when there was very little chance of making money or a legacy elsewhere. But since things have changed, the notion of wwe being inevitable is gone. |
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Post by chazraps on Apr 25, 2022 0:14:06 GMT -5
Just to add to the discussion, I think FTR genuinely have reinvented, or at the very least redefined, themselves.
Their entire WWE/NXT run, there was this southern-bent to them in aesthetic, which we saw a bit of in their initial AEW run.
Then at somepoint in AEW instead of "The Revival" being a revival of southern wrestling, they became this revival of overall 80s-style wrestling instead and it's helped with every single aspect of their presentation and made them more compelling in and out of the ring. There's a subtlety at play here that goes a long way. Sure they draw from a lot of southern influences, but there's also now a lot of clearer 80s midwest and Canadian style in their work as well.
Given Vince's own feelings toward a lot of southern culture, I think it's possible this tweaked presentation could have him and his right hand men seeing FTR as more than just "two tough southern boys."
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Post by Feyrhausen on Apr 25, 2022 2:52:55 GMT -5
Just to add to the discussion, I think FTR genuinely have reinvented, or at the very least redefined, themselves. Their entire WWE/NXT run, there was this southern-bent to them in aesthetic, which we saw a bit of in their initial AEW run. Then at somepoint in AEW instead of "The Revival" being a revival of southern wrestling, they became this revival of overall 80s-style wrestling instead and it's helped with every single aspect of their presentation and made them more compelling in and out of the ring. There's a subtlety at play here that goes a long way. Sure they draw from a lot of southern influences, but there's also now a lot of clearer 80s midwest and Canadian style in their work as well. Given Vince's own feelings toward a lot of southern culture, I think it's possible this tweaked presentation could have him and his right hand men seeing FTR as more than just "two tough southern boys." I doubt Vince has seen anything of FTR in AEW. |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 25, 2022 3:47:58 GMT -5
Just to add to the discussion, I think FTR genuinely have reinvented, or at the very least redefined, themselves. Their entire WWE/NXT run, there was this southern-bent to them in aesthetic, which we saw a bit of in their initial AEW run. Then at somepoint in AEW instead of "The Revival" being a revival of southern wrestling, they became this revival of overall 80s-style wrestling instead and it's helped with every single aspect of their presentation and made them more compelling in and out of the ring. There's a subtlety at play here that goes a long way. Sure they draw from a lot of southern influences, but there's also now a lot of clearer 80s midwest and Canadian style in their work as well. Given Vince's own feelings toward a lot of southern culture, I think it's possible this tweaked presentation could have him and his right hand men seeing FTR as more than just "two tough southern boys." On the other hand, there's the Luke Harper example, and he remembers how they were, so they won't be southern enough for what he wants. |
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Post by Chainsaw on Apr 25, 2022 3:55:23 GMT -5
They can stay interested.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 25, 2022 3:57:45 GMT -5
If they come back for the money, more power to them, but they know what they’d be getting into. And I don’t think most people would be all that sympathetic should they have a run go arse-up again.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 25, 2022 5:42:52 GMT -5
If they come back for the money, more power to them, but they know what they’d be getting into. And I don’t think most people would be all that sympathetic should they have a run go arse-up again. They'd be the tag team Gail Kim. |
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Apr 26, 2022 10:52:55 GMT -5
Sure, Revival backck in WWE. What's the worst that could happ...  Ooooo...yeah...right. |
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Post by Instant Classic on Apr 26, 2022 10:57:02 GMT -5
Wouldn’t mind them back in WWE, but I hope they win the NWA tag belt before they come back.
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