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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on May 18, 2022 20:01:46 GMT -5
Sasha isnt so special the WWE needs to keep her around. If Naomi never showed up again it'd probably take a couple months for people to notice.
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Post by Dan Royal on May 18, 2022 20:04:13 GMT -5
I mean if the WWE wanted Sasha to have a bra and panties match with Eva Marie where she jobs and has her titties whipped out on national TV, then yeah, tell Vince to F-off and leave.
But she was mad she was going to have a title match with a former UFC champion and one of the most recognizable stars in the company? Kind of a dumb hill to die on.
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Post by Starshine on May 18, 2022 20:07:26 GMT -5
Sasha isnt so special the WWE needs to keep her around. If Naomi never showed up again it'd probably take a couple months for people to notice. Sasha moves significant ratings, they're gonna want to keep her around. |
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on May 18, 2022 20:09:03 GMT -5
Sasha isnt so special the WWE needs to keep her around. If Naomi never showed up again it'd probably take a couple months for people to notice. Sasha moves significant ratings, they're gonna want to keep her around. I'm not sure where in the last half decade WWE has done anything to make you think they care about ratings. |
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Post by Starshine on May 18, 2022 20:10:33 GMT -5
Sasha moves significant ratings, they're gonna want to keep her around. I'm not sure where in the last half decade WWE has done anything to make you think they care about ratings. They definitely care when it comes to keeping the networks happy. They're the ones paying the bills. |
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Post by Texas Tornado on May 18, 2022 20:17:47 GMT -5
Sasha comes across as a massive mark in all this. Someone needs to tell this woman that this is all a performance and not an actual sport. There's no "winners and losers"... You win when you put on a good performance and do what you were supposed to do. Imagine being an actor and refusing to get killed off in a TV show. Even if the script and the storyline called for it. That's what this essentially is. As someone who's been behind the scenes in a wrestling environment, the general consensus is "If you see these titles as actual achievements and not props to further storyline and ultimately make us all more money, you're a mark." She was trying to use her prop to get two other women more money and a PPV match. I don’t think the “killed off” analogy works here, considering she was willing to sacrifice focus and promotion for her character in order to give some spotlight to Nikki and Doudrop. We can’t both call it a dumb hill to die on and completely misrepresent the hill she’s choosing to die on. |
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Post by nisidhe on May 18, 2022 20:20:21 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 20:43:56 GMT -5
Preheat skillet medium heat, butter, chilled veggies, cook 30 seconds. Remove from heat, crack in the egg mix quickly for 30 seconds, add cheese, salsa verde and mix. Warm your tortilla. Build: tortilla, Cholula, egg mix, roll it up.... and off you go! BOOM your new favourite breakfast has arrived. I am staking my claim as FANS god of chefs! I've discovered recently the joy of a drop of sesame oil in a skillet. I like to roll up a Japanese-style omelette on occasion. If I wasn't risking cholesterol poisoning, eggs would be a far more regular part of my morning routine. Also, cornbread. 1.5 cups cornmeal. 1/2 cup all purpose flour. 2 tablespoons sugar. 1.5 teaspoons baking powder. 1 teaspoon salt. 1.5 cups milk. 2 eggs, beaten. 1/3 cup maple or pancake syrup. BOOM Enjoy this maple cornbread.....unfortunately you will need to use eggs here but hopefully that aint a detriment. God of chefs at it again! |
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Post by knightboat on May 18, 2022 21:06:53 GMT -5
I'm shocked there are this many people on the WWEs side. You really think Sasha and Naomi were mad they were going to be in world title feuds? They were mad that they were going to be tag team champions in name only. They weren't going to defend those belts for weeks/months making them even more worthless than they already are. They also expressed their concerns and were told the match was changed. Then it wasn't. They wanted the WWE to take women's and tag team wrestling seriously. What horrible people.
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Post by papagiorgio on May 18, 2022 21:29:09 GMT -5
I'm shocked there are this many people on the WWEs side. You really think Sasha and Naomi were mad they were going to be in world title feuds? They were mad that they were going to be tag team champions in name only. They weren't going to defend those belts for weeks/months making them even more worthless than they already are. They also expressed their concerns and were told the match was changed. Then it wasn't. They wanted the WWE to take women's and tag team wrestling seriously. What horrible people. At no point have the women's tag titles meant much of anything, though. It is a notch above the 24/7 title. Vince doesn't care about tag teams. They still could have defended them on tv. If Nattie & Bayzler couldn't get a PPV title match at Backlash (Smackdown instead), Doudrop & Cross whom already lost to Sasha & Naomi weren't going to. |
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Post by polarbearpete on May 18, 2022 21:32:53 GMT -5
I'm shocked there are this many people on the WWEs side. You really think Sasha and Naomi were mad they were going to be in world title feuds? They were mad that they were going to be tag team champions in name only. They weren't going to defend those belts for weeks/months making them even more worthless than they already are. They also expressed their concerns and were told the match was changed. Then it wasn't. They wanted the WWE to take women's and tag team wrestling seriously. What horrible people. Hot take: the team would have looked better after having (and losing) marquee world title matches at the PPV than they would rolling over Doudrop and Nikki. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 18, 2022 21:34:28 GMT -5
I'm shocked there are this many people on the WWEs side. You really think Sasha and Naomi were mad they were going to be in world title feuds? They were mad that they were going to be tag team champions in name only. They weren't going to defend those belts for weeks/months making them even more worthless than they already are. They also expressed their concerns and were told the match was changed. Then it wasn't. They wanted the WWE to take women's and tag team wrestling seriously. What horrible people. At no point have the women's tag titles meant much of anything, though. It is a notch above the 24/7 title. Vince doesn't care about tag teams. They still could have defended them on tv. If Nattie & Bayzler couldn't get a PPV title match at Backlash (Smackdown instead), Doudrop & Cross whom already lost to Sasha & Naomi weren't going to. So there was no point for them to try that? Because this point only makes sense if there wasn’t an attempt from them to try and rebuild credibility in it from the talent themselves to do that. If we’re blaming them for trying to care, even if the result isn’t agreeable to everyone affected, then we might as well not have belts. |
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Post by knightboat on May 18, 2022 21:37:17 GMT -5
I'm shocked there are this many people on the WWEs side. You really think Sasha and Naomi were mad they were going to be in world title feuds? They were mad that they were going to be tag team champions in name only. They weren't going to defend those belts for weeks/months making them even more worthless than they already are. They also expressed their concerns and were told the match was changed. Then it wasn't. They wanted the WWE to take women's and tag team wrestling seriously. What horrible people. Hot take: the team would have looked better after having (and losing) marquee world title matches at the PPV than they would rolling over Doudrop and Nikki. It definitely would have done more for the individual women, but they felt it made the belts a joke. They're trying to get the company to take the women's tag belts seriously. Really they stood up for the division. You pointed it out, it would have been better for both individual women to be in a world title feud, but they would have been completely ignoring the tag belts. |
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Post by papagiorgio on May 18, 2022 21:44:44 GMT -5
At no point have the women's tag titles meant much of anything, though. It is a notch above the 24/7 title. Vince doesn't care about tag teams. They still could have defended them on tv. If Nattie & Bayzler couldn't get a PPV title match at Backlash (Smackdown instead), Doudrop & Cross whom already lost to Sasha & Naomi weren't going to. So there was no point for them to try that? Because this point only makes sense if there wasn’t an attempt from them to try and rebuild credibility in it from the talent themselves to do that. If we’re blaming them for trying to care, even if the result isn’t agreeable to everyone affected, then we might as well not have belts. The women's tag titles aren't remotely worth walking out on, particularly if you are getting singles titles matches on PPVs. There are better hills to die on. |
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Post by mistery on May 18, 2022 21:49:45 GMT -5
I'm shocked there are this many people on the WWEs side. You really think Sasha and Naomi were mad they were going to be in world title feuds? They were mad that they were going to be tag team champions in name only. They weren't going to defend those belts for weeks/months making them even more worthless than they already are. They also expressed their concerns and were told the match was changed. Then it wasn't. They wanted the WWE to take women's and tag team wrestling seriously. What horrible people. Lets see how they have been booked since winning the titles: Defeated Rhea/Liv twice, once in a non-title match, another in a title match. Also had prominent singles matches with both Rhea and Liv. Had singles and tag matches against Shayna and Natalya multiple times and went over them. Beat Nikki ASH and Doudrop in a non-title match. Would have very likely had a handful of singles matches with them before beating them in a title match. Also keep in mind they were very regularly on both RAW and Smackdown. To say that their reign or that they have been bad or poorly booked is absolutely false. I think they could easily afford putting over Ronda and Bianca in title matches before getting back to the tag division. Especially since it was pretty clear all of the top women are/were tied up in other feuds right now on RAW. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 18, 2022 21:51:13 GMT -5
So there was no point for them to try that? Because this point only makes sense if there wasn’t an attempt from them to try and rebuild credibility in it from the talent themselves to do that. If we’re blaming them for trying to care, even if the result isn’t agreeable to everyone affected, then we might as well not have belts. The women's tag titles aren't remotely worth walking out on, particularly if you are getting singles titles matches on PPVs. There are better hills to die on. That wasn’t your point, though. You said that Vince doesn’t see them as credible. They clearly disagreed and wanted to build their standing rather than take the single PPV feuds. Shouldn’t that be somewhat respected by management? Potentially turning something that wasn’t credible into something you can make money from? Look, again, you can agree or disagree with them walking out but the idea of trying to get over something that’s seen as bad by the company? That might benefit the dozens of green women in NXT right now who would benefit from tag team action more than singles? |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 21:51:50 GMT -5
The way I see you fall on one of two sides here.
You either see Sasha and Naomi as right for trying to get those tag titles to be taken seriously instead of being one off meaningless fodder and their walk out being justified.
Or you think they are wrong and unprofessional because the womens tag titles are worthless and are not worth fighting to give them some level of cred let alone walking out of the company for.
Me I already said it I am with Sasha and Naomi on this one.
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Post by asuka007 on May 18, 2022 22:07:35 GMT -5
I'm shocked there are this many people on the WWEs side. You really think Sasha and Naomi were mad they were going to be in world title feuds? They were mad that they were going to be tag team champions in name only. They weren't going to defend those belts for weeks/months making them even more worthless than they already are. They also expressed their concerns and were told the match was changed. Then it wasn't. They wanted the WWE to take women's and tag team wrestling seriously. What horrible people. Hot take: the team would have looked better after having (and losing) marquee world title matches at the PPV than they would rolling over Doudrop and Nikki. No they wouldn’t. |
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on May 18, 2022 22:17:44 GMT -5
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 18, 2022 22:18:58 GMT -5
Hot take: the team would have looked better after having (and losing) marquee world title matches at the PPV than they would rolling over Doudrop and Nikki. No they wouldn’t. there's really nothing to be gained from beating Nikki and Doudrop... they've beaten the team a few times already... and like neither have like any wins... looking strong in defeat against two of the most protected members of the female roster doesn't make them look bad. |
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