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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2022 7:53:19 GMT -5
Per Observer Radio, Naomi's contract expires soon and they were negotiating before this all went down. Would not shock me if either WWE or her pull out of the deal. Although realistically I can't see Naomi doing well anywhere else. Or any company offering her the same amount of money (or more than this current deal). She definetly would not be getting whatever pay day she is getting now anywhere else but I can see her doing well in Impact with an occasional stop over in AEW. |
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Post by mistery on May 19, 2022 7:53:23 GMT -5
Yeah, Dave mentioned on WOR that Sasha and Naomi were basically meant to be holdover challengers until the stadium shows. As WWE wanted to hold off on Becky/Bianca until the stadium shows pick back up, because "that would have the most fan interest" which I kinda doubt because we've seen them feuding off and on for almost a year at this point and there's literally nowhere else they can go at this point with that feud. It doesn't help that audiences are mostly flat to both women interacting now.
They also were apparently considering Asuka/Bianca as an option at MITB, but now have to push it forward because of Sasha and Naomi walking out, so Asuka gets fed to her on a B-Tier PPV, which WWE had absolutely wanted to avoid for the time being. Dave has also mentioned there has been rumblings of them doing Rhea/Bianca either at one of the future stadium shows, or soon after the stadium shows wrap up. And to be honest? If The Judgement Day continues its current trajectory, I don't want to see any of them in the title picture or holding gold since their promos are really, really, really not good and the stable overall isn't very good either.
So basically Sasha/Naomi walking out has had a pretty negative effect on the division, and is going to harm a lot more women. It also murders Asuka's return momentum, because no one thinks she is winning the title at HiaC, and she's gonna end up falling back down the card afterwards, despite being one of the hottest acts in the division right now.
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Post by government mule on May 19, 2022 7:57:35 GMT -5
I think Jimmy Uso should get a public transport commuter gimmick, coming down to the ring in a rail replacement double decker bus 5 mins after the match has started. Even better, he wants to get his matches done as soon as possible because the Uber is waiting outside and he's being charged by the minute for how long they wait for him. Or if they're in a location with suitable transport, he wants to make sure he gets on before the crowds. His new tag team partner is some old Cockney bloke whose promos are all blatent lies and and begin with "'Ere, you'll never guess who I had on the back of my cab" |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 19, 2022 7:58:51 GMT -5
Even better, he wants to get his matches done as soon as possible because the Uber is waiting outside and he's being charged by the minute for how long they wait for him. Or if they're in a location with suitable transport, he wants to make sure he gets on before the crowds. His new tag team partner is some old Cockney bloke whose promos are all blatent lies and and begin with "'Ere, you'll never guess who I had on the back of my cab" That has to be Sha Samuels or this entire thing collapses on itself. I'm just picturing Jimmy and Jay cutting a promo, Sha comes into shot and goes "Hey mate, how long are you going to be? My notifications are going crazy tonight" which makes Jimmy panic and rush the promo and dashes to the ring. |
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Post by government mule on May 19, 2022 8:02:41 GMT -5
His new tag team partner is some old Cockney bloke whose promos are all blatent lies and and begin with "'Ere, you'll never guess who I had on the back of my cab" That has to be Sha Samuels or this entire thing collapses on itself. I'm just picturing Jimmy and Jay cutting a promo, Sha comes into shot and goes "Hey mate, how long are you going to be? My notifications are going crazy tonight" which makes Jimmy panic and rush the promo and dashes to the ring. You see, if we were in charge of creative, Naomi and Sasha would never had walked, which is how Jimmy Uso may have to get to the next show |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 19, 2022 8:06:08 GMT -5
That has to be Sha Samuels or this entire thing collapses on itself. I'm just picturing Jimmy and Jay cutting a promo, Sha comes into shot and goes "Hey mate, how long are you going to be? My notifications are going crazy tonight" which makes Jimmy panic and rush the promo and dashes to the ring. You see, if we were in charge of creative, Naomi and Sasha would never had walked, which is how Jimmy Uso may have to get to the next show If I were on creative, I would have been fired for constantly being salty about how Malcom Bivens would be perfect for this angle but "Noooooo, who wants a manager besides all the talent?!" and getting dragged out repeatedly. |
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Post by HMARK Center on May 19, 2022 8:12:17 GMT -5
Feel like there’s a lot of people believing that this walkout was just over this single creative decision. None of us know for sure, but I’d put the odds of it being about that near zero. Again, Sasha was one of the people pushing for womens tag titles in the first place; creatively, this is her baby. Said odds I mentioned are much higher that she’s been dealing with trying to have them taken seriously and then feeling like she and all her work and efforts are being ignored by the promotion for a very long time now, and this was just the last straw for her. I could be wrong, of course, i don’t have a window into her thought process at all, but something like this really has the feel of a worker just hitting their limit with their bosses. It happens. Well I don’t think people think that this one incident caused the walkout because well very little in life happens on the spot. There is normally many things that happen knowingly or not prior to the “big” event. I think what some are saying is that this issue doesn’t seem like the big issue for it to come to a head like it has, it’s another more notable event but not the hill they’d die on. And I can fully understand why Sasha in particular feels very strongly and emotionally about the woman's tag team titles because as you say she was a big driver in getting them introduced as any of us who’ve had something that we had a big part in. That’s a natural human feeling. The thing is though that because the tag titles as whole and many others have been booked like dogshit recently, this one idea that had wasn’t going to bring the titles back to prominence like they wanted. That's the thing, though: I don't think this single situation is "the hill to die on", I think this is more likely the result of a prolonged difference in priorities and Sasha, at least, feeling like she's simply had enough of fighting for her priorities and feeling like she's getting nowhere...again, just a guess on my part, but attempting to read between the lines, here. You can liken it to someone leaving a long-term relationship after a seemingly innocuous disagreement, or someone storming out of a retail job after the bossy manager makes one annoying request too many, even if said request doesn't seem all that outputting on the surface. It's not that individual moment that does it, the last straw doesn't need to be the biggest or worst thing that's happened; it can easily be that after enough issues someone's already primed to be done with something and someone else happens to grind their gears just the wrong way, and that's when they say "@#$% this, I'm out". On the other issue brought up, I also don't think Asuka being moved forward to challenge Bianca earlier is going to do anything to derail her momentum; she's unlikely to win the title anyway, and if she loses momentum after losing a PPV title match that's much more on the booking for not giving her a story beyond "she's challenging for the title and is likely to lose." WWE's routine is to book matches that have no bearing on someone's character or motivations, they just kind of happen, end, and then they might as well have not happened, so where the match goes down likely doesn't matter, either, given the outcome isn't particularly in doubt and outcomes are about all that matter in most WWE style matches. If they want to keep her going strong they'll keep her going strong, even after a title loss. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2022 8:30:58 GMT -5
Yeah, Dave mentioned on WOR that Sasha and Naomi were basically meant to be holdover challengers until the stadium shows. As WWE wanted to hold off on Becky/Bianca until the stadium shows pick back up, because "that would have the most fan interest" which I kinda doubt because we've seen them feuding off and on for almost a year at this point and there's literally nowhere else they can go at this point with that feud. It doesn't help that audiences are mostly flat to both women interacting now. They also were apparently considering Asuka/Bianca as an option at MITB, but now have to push it forward because of Sasha and Naomi walking out, so Asuka gets fed to her on a B-Tier PPV, which WWE had absolutely wanted to avoid for the time being. Dave has also mentioned there has been rumblings of them doing Rhea/Bianca either at one of the future stadium shows, or soon after the stadium shows wrap up. And to be honest? If The Judgement Day continues its current trajectory, I don't want to see any of them in the title picture or holding gold since their promos are really, really, really not good and the stable overall isn't very good either. So basically Sasha/Naomi walking out has had a pretty negative effect on the division, and is going to harm a lot more women. It also murders Asuka's return momentum, because no one thinks she is winning the title at HiaC, and she's gonna end up falling back down the card afterwards, despite being one of the hottest acts in the division right now. Nah, if Sasha and Naomi leaving severely hurts the division then the division is being held together by toilet paper and toothpicks. 2 women don't have the power to crumble an entire division especially if you have Asuka returning and all the others they have. If anything this shows that they are terrible at booking because they can't think of a way around this. It's not hard. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 19, 2022 8:37:12 GMT -5
Nah, if Sasha and Naomi leaving severely hurts the division then the division is being held together by toilet paper and toothpicks. 2 women don't have the power to crumble an entire division especially if you have Asuka returning and all the others they have. If anything this shows that they are terrible at booking because they can't think of a way around this. It's not hard. And it also ignores the fact that almost everyone you could put in that slot has been fired or walked out in the last couple of years. Like, imagine if WWE still had people like Moon, Riott, Storm, Kai, James, Purrazzo, the Iiconics etc, none of this would be an issue right now. If losing Banks and Naomi breaks the division, as you said, it was because the division's been teflon since 2020 at the earliest. |
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on May 19, 2022 8:42:09 GMT -5
Nah, if Sasha and Naomi leaving severely hurts the division then the division is being held together by toilet paper and toothpicks. 2 women don't have the power to crumble an entire division especially if you have Asuka returning and all the others they have. If anything this shows that they are terrible at booking because they can't think of a way around this. It's not hard. And it also ignores the fact that almost everyone you could put in that slot has been fired or walked out in the last couple of years. Like, imagine if WWE still had people like Moon, Riott, Storm, Kai, James, Purrazzo, the Iiconics etc, none of this would be an issue right now. If losing Banks and Naomi breaks the division, as you said, it was because the division's been teflon since 2020 at the earliest.  |
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Post by oxbaker on May 19, 2022 8:42:55 GMT -5
In light of the discussion on this thread about cereal and milk before or after the actual cereal. Being a card carrying member of the milk second club for nearly 40 years, I decided to try milk first. 🤮🤮🥴 what the actual f*** people ? It hurt my brain just doing it. I… just why. You did this so we wouldn’t have to. Thank you for your sacrifice. |
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Post by oxbaker on May 19, 2022 8:57:12 GMT -5
Yeah, Dave mentioned on WOR that Sasha and Naomi were basically meant to be holdover challengers until the stadium shows. As WWE wanted to hold off on Becky/Bianca until the stadium shows pick back up, because "that would have the most fan interest" which I kinda doubt because we've seen them feuding off and on for almost a year at this point and there's literally nowhere else they can go at this point with that feud. It doesn't help that audiences are mostly flat to both women interacting now. They also were apparently considering Asuka/Bianca as an option at MITB, but now have to push it forward because of Sasha and Naomi walking out, so Asuka gets fed to her on a B-Tier PPV, which WWE had absolutely wanted to avoid for the time being. Dave has also mentioned there has been rumblings of them doing Rhea/Bianca either at one of the future stadium shows, or soon after the stadium shows wrap up. And to be honest? If The Judgement Day continues its current trajectory, I don't want to see any of them in the title picture or holding gold since their promos are really, really, really not good and the stable overall isn't very good either. So basically Sasha/Naomi walking out has had a pretty negative effect on the division, and is going to harm a lot more women. It also murders Asuka's return momentum, because no one thinks she is winning the title at HiaC, and she's gonna end up falling back down the card afterwards, despite being one of the hottest acts in the division right now. As to your point on fan interest, you’d be surprised. I took two sisters who had basically never watched WWE (or wrestling) before to a Smackdown before WM. They have Peacock with their cable deal and decided to watch WM. Now we’re going to Summerslam together. (To them it’s ‘fun road trip, this should be interesting’ more than ‘OMG who is in the main event?’) They’ll probably catch the go-home shows on Raw and SD to get a feel for the big show, but mostly it’s just a neat spectacle to them. But the two people on the roster they were familiar with was Ronda and, strangely enough, Sasha Banks (because they knew she was the wrestler related to Snoop Dogg). They had no idea who Brock was because they don’t watch MMA. No idea who Roman was. Cody debut on WM didn’t connect with them because they had no idea who he was. (They knew the Jackass guys lol and that Paul was some sort of social media celebrity but couldn’t have told you his name.) EDIT: Also used to work with two guys who, if Brock was on a PPV they would order it or find a way to watch it. To them, that meant it was a big deal. These guys watched parts of Raw occasionally but that was the over/under — is Brock on it? This is at the same time non-casuals are ‘we’re sick of Brock, he’s a part-timer, it’s the same match.’ There are more people out there than you think who will pay money for these people we roll our eyes at. |
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Post by Legion on May 19, 2022 9:01:47 GMT -5
Yeah, Dave mentioned on WOR that Sasha and Naomi were basically meant to be holdover challengers until the stadium shows. As WWE wanted to hold off on Becky/Bianca until the stadium shows pick back up, because "that would have the most fan interest" which I kinda doubt because we've seen them feuding off and on for almost a year at this point and there's literally nowhere else they can go at this point with that feud. It doesn't help that audiences are mostly flat to both women interacting now. They also were apparently considering Asuka/Bianca as an option at MITB, but now have to push it forward because of Sasha and Naomi walking out, so Asuka gets fed to her on a B-Tier PPV, which WWE had absolutely wanted to avoid for the time being. Dave has also mentioned there has been rumblings of them doing Rhea/Bianca either at one of the future stadium shows, or soon after the stadium shows wrap up. And to be honest? If The Judgement Day continues its current trajectory, I don't want to see any of them in the title picture or holding gold since their promos are really, really, really not good and the stable overall isn't very good either. So basically Sasha/Naomi walking out has had a pretty negative effect on the division, and is going to harm a lot more women. It also murders Asuka's return momentum, because no one thinks she is winning the title at HiaC, and she's gonna end up falling back down the card afterwards, despite being one of the hottest acts in the division right now. You never know. When WWE has to scramble, something they completely change everything or randomly add people to stuff. Asuka could win, only to drop it quickly - or find herself drawn in to other matches as a third woman because they want to do something with her but cant do the plan they had. It's incredibly unlikely, but it's possible that this ends up benefiting Asuka and others in the long run. |
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Post by asuka007 on May 19, 2022 11:04:02 GMT -5
Yeah, Dave mentioned on WOR that Sasha and Naomi were basically meant to be holdover challengers until the stadium shows. As WWE wanted to hold off on Becky/Bianca until the stadium shows pick back up, because "that would have the most fan interest" which I kinda doubt because we've seen them feuding off and on for almost a year at this point and there's literally nowhere else they can go at this point with that feud. It doesn't help that audiences are mostly flat to both women interacting now. They also were apparently considering Asuka/Bianca as an option at MITB, but now have to push it forward because of Sasha and Naomi walking out, so Asuka gets fed to her on a B-Tier PPV, which WWE had absolutely wanted to avoid for the time being. Dave has also mentioned there has been rumblings of them doing Rhea/Bianca either at one of the future stadium shows, or soon after the stadium shows wrap up. And to be honest? If The Judgement Day continues its current trajectory, I don't want to see any of them in the title picture or holding gold since their promos are really, really, really not good and the stable overall isn't very good either. So basically Sasha/Naomi walking out has had a pretty negative effect on the division, and is going to harm a lot more women. It also murders Asuka's return momentum, because no one thinks she is winning the title at HiaC, and she's gonna end up falling back down the card afterwards, despite being one of the hottest acts in the division right now. The fact that the tag champions, Sasha Banks and Naomi of all people, were only going to be used as filler opponents at a B-level show, kind of does not help WWE’s case. Also Sasha already put Ronda over during the latter’s first run. So even less reason to do this again. One thing that this whole mess has shown is how bad WWE’s booking philosophy is in general these days. |
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Post by Square on May 19, 2022 11:07:39 GMT -5
So my perfect full English breakfast would compromise of the following; - 2-3 rashers of bacon (smoked back bacon, not streaky bacon you North American philistines) - 2 Sausages (Lincolnshire preferably, but not too fussy on this selection) - 2 fried/poached eggs (runny yolk, not scrambled) - Mushrooms (I f***ing love mushrooms with any meal and they are perfect for fry-ups) - 1 Black Pudding (yeah I know what it is, so what, big whoop, wanna fight about it?) - Half a grilled tomato or one peeled plum tomato - 1 slice of buttered white toast - Ketchup/black pepper available on the table. Brown sauce is unacceptable in any society. - English breakfast tea. Milk, but strong, no sugar. - Orange juice if available Baked beans are optional - I don't mind a few but I wouldn't choose them preferably, they take up too much space on the plate and are too boring to eat. No fried toast? That sickens me |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2022 11:16:34 GMT -5
Oh we talking breakfast now 2 cups water big pinch Kosher salt 1/2 cup quick cooking grits 2 tablespoons butter 1/4 cup milk 1/2 cup shredded cheese (I like Monterey Jack, but use whatever you like or have) 6 ounces pork sausage 2 eggs 2 greens onions, finely chopped Boil water and add salt & grits - stir well and turn down to low Cook about 5 minutes, stirring occasionally until thickened Add butter, milk and cheese, stir until creamy & well combined - cover and keep warm Cook sausage in a non-stick pan until just no longer pink and keep warm Cook eggs however you like - over easy, sunny, poached it’s up to you Put 1/2 the grits into each of 2 bowls and add some sausage, green onions and top with the egg FANS Chef god does it again...thank me as you breakfast like a god (not me though I am above your pay grade  ) |
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on May 19, 2022 11:18:58 GMT -5
Wrestlers are trying to take these belts and divisions seriously? That’s cool with me. Sasha and Naomi are old school.
Also as much as I enjoyed All At Once I’m more on Team English Muffin over Team Bagel. Using a muffin as part of a makeshift sandwich with eggs and bacon and hash browns is insanely good.
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Post by Square on May 19, 2022 11:19:01 GMT -5
Oh we talking breakfast now 2 cups water big pinch Kosher salt 1/2 cup quick cooking grits 2 tablespoons butter 1/4 cup milk 1/2 cup shredded cheese (I like Monterey Jack, but use whatever you like or have) 6 ounces pork sausage 2 eggs 2 greens onions, finely chopped Boil water and add salt & grits - stir well and turn down to low Cook about 5 minutes, stirring occasionally until thickened Add butter, milk and cheese, stir until creamy & well combined - cover and keep warm Cook sausage in a non-stick pan until just no longer pink and keep warm Cook eggs however you like - over easy, sunny, poached it’s up to you Put 1/2 the grits into each of 2 bowls and add some sausage, green onions and top with the egg FANS Chef god does it again...thank me as you breakfast like a god (not me though I am above your pay grade ) The hell are grits? I always assumed like salted porridge |
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Post by Push R Truth on May 19, 2022 11:21:26 GMT -5
Best breakfast I ever had was splitting a pound block of horseradish farmer cheese and a 6 pack of Spotted Cow while fishing with my father in law in the morning fog.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2022 11:24:55 GMT -5
Oh we talking breakfast now 2 cups water big pinch Kosher salt 1/2 cup quick cooking grits 2 tablespoons butter 1/4 cup milk 1/2 cup shredded cheese (I like Monterey Jack, but use whatever you like or have) 6 ounces pork sausage 2 eggs 2 greens onions, finely chopped Boil water and add salt & grits - stir well and turn down to low Cook about 5 minutes, stirring occasionally until thickened Add butter, milk and cheese, stir until creamy & well combined - cover and keep warm Cook sausage in a non-stick pan until just no longer pink and keep warm Cook eggs however you like - over easy, sunny, poached it’s up to you Put 1/2 the grits into each of 2 bowls and add some sausage, green onions and top with the egg FANS Chef god does it again...thank me as you breakfast like a god (not me though I am above your pay grade ) The hell are grits? I always assumed like salted porridge Grits in short is just cornmeal or polenta the only difference is the color Polenta is yellow where as Grits are white. |
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