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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 2, 2022 2:43:26 GMT -5
Idk, but he does seem to have somewhat of an under appreciated career Couldn’t agree more. Even with four world titles, several other titles and an excellent run with Cesaro (in one of my favourite teams of the 21st century so far) you could say he’s had enough appreciation but I think he deserves more. He’s similar to Kane. He’s constantly been over and had good matches yet he was around in a period where there were four or five wrestlers who over-shone the rest of the talent. Edit : Just seen someone else comparing him to Kane. I guess they are similar in how they are used but as talents I don't really think they are that similar. I think Sheamus is a good bit more talented then Kane especially from an in ring stand point. Kane was just kind of a real steady guy in that he was rarely hurt, could cut a good promo, and was solid and safe in the ring but at the same time not super impressive either. He was someone who got the job done but wasn't exactly great at doing it either. Like what really good matches Kane have in his career? Sheamus on the other hand is someone who has proven to have the ability to have very high quality matches if given the time and opportunity.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Jun 2, 2022 3:09:35 GMT -5
Couldn’t agree more. Even with four world titles, several other titles and an excellent run with Cesaro (in one of my favourite teams of the 21st century so far) you could say he’s had enough appreciation but I think he deserves more. He’s similar to Kane. He’s constantly been over and had good matches yet he was around in a period where there were four or five wrestlers who over-shone the rest of the talent. Edit : Just seen someone else comparing him to Kane. I guess they are similar in how they are used but as talents I don't really think they are that similar. I think Sheamus is a good bit more talented then Kane especially from an in ring stand point. Kane was just kind of a real steady guy in that he was rarely hurt, could cut a good promo, and was solid and safe in the ring but at the same time not super impressive either. He was someone who got the job done but wasn't exactly great at doing it either. Like what really good matches Kane have in his career? Sheamus on the other hand is someone who has proven to have the ability to have very high quality matches if given the time and opportunity. I was referring to their standing in the company rather than their ability. Sheamus is a better worker than Kane and it wouldn’t be fair to compare the two in that area. Not saying Kane was a poor worker, there are very few big men who were better but, yeah, it’s not really a contest. Both guys were more than capable of being World Champions for a run of a few months but were never going to be your top guy for an extended period as there were always about five or six other people ahead of them who were the potential “franchises”. HHH once referred to Kane as “the constant” and that’s how I see Sheamus.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Jun 2, 2022 4:47:50 GMT -5
Honestly, all he needs now is a reign as IC champion and he has pretty much had a complete career.
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Post by Nosnorb on Jun 2, 2022 7:59:02 GMT -5
He wasn't ready in 2009-10. By 11-12 he was but the Daniel Bryan 18 seconds thing put a damper on his title reign. He kinda salvaged it in the end with those surprisingly great matches with Big Show though. There was also that never ending feud with Del Rio, and then there was 2013. Man that was rough, dude was supposed to be the face in his feuds but came across as an absolute twat when going against Barrett, Henry and Sandow then blew out his shoulder.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jun 2, 2022 8:03:31 GMT -5
Oh, for sure.
Did he reach the level WWE clearly wanted him to? That’s a whole other argument, imo
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Post by Blade on Jun 2, 2022 12:21:24 GMT -5
Ironically, he is a B+ player.
Good enough to be A Guy, but not enough to be The Guy, and serious missteps by WWE in booking him (both going over Bryan and his subsequent reign) made a ton of people apathetic at best to him in some of his prime years.
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Post by 06vwgti on Jun 2, 2022 12:30:20 GMT -5
His current character these last few years has been great. Please no more Irish John Cena Sheamus.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Jun 2, 2022 14:39:54 GMT -5
Yes but I think WWE f***ed him pretty hard in the longrun with how they presented him in 2012/2013, even if he did mostly get cheered at the time. Sheamus trying to be John Cena was like proto Sammy Guevara.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Jun 3, 2022 3:20:04 GMT -5
Hell no. Sheamus has always been an instant fast forward on TV / piss break if I'm in the arena. Sheamus' career will always be best summed up like this to me. I was watching NOC 2012 with a friend. He stands up to walk out of my house as Sheamus comes out
Me: where you going?
Him: outside to smoke a cigarette. I don't do Sheamus matches.
Me: *shoulder shrug* understandable.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jun 3, 2022 4:01:42 GMT -5
I never bought him as a main eventer. It always seemed forced whenever he was in the title picture.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2022 5:43:00 GMT -5
The Kane comparison is very good; pushed massively from day one and an instant name, couldn't maintain the push but the sudden thrust of it made him a made man so he spent the rest of his career as a prominent midcarder who would be used as a "break in case of emergency" main eventer if they ever found themselves lacking in candidates.
Bah Gawd, imagine how massive Sheamus would have been in the 80s, only the lack of an American accent would have prevented him from knocking Hogan off his perch.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jun 3, 2022 8:44:27 GMT -5
He’s always been more than talented enough to be a main event er. But every time he has been he was booked miserably, either pushed too hard too fast, inserted awkwardly, or made to look like a chump. And baring in mind that main event she’s not automatically equate world champion; he would have been perfectly suited to play a menacing heel challenger to a fighting champion like Punk or Bryan, even if he didn’t end up winning the belt.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jun 3, 2022 10:23:12 GMT -5
Yes, but he was screwed over by being pushed to the world title too fast for the fans and never gained the traction as a main eventer he needed as a result. The ADR big deal fast push harms more than it helps, what do you do once you've blown through the career defining moments in the first two or three years of your run?
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Post by Blade on Jun 3, 2022 16:21:42 GMT -5
Yes, but he was screwed over by being pushed to the world title too fast for the fans and never gained the traction as a main eventer he needed as a result. The ADR big deal fast push harms more than it helps, what do you do once you've blown through the career defining moments in the first two or three years of your run? Of course, there's Brock. But Brock's the exception to a lot of rules (and of course, he ended up taking a long sabbatical at his height anyway, which made him fresh again by the time he came back).
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jun 3, 2022 17:09:37 GMT -5
He could have been had he been handled better and not pushed so hard out the gate without a long term plan. But he’s certainly a future HOFer.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jun 3, 2022 17:13:48 GMT -5
His main event push started on the last episode of Raw that I remember really enjoying, so I’ll give the big fella his due.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jun 3, 2022 19:33:23 GMT -5
For like two years in 2012-2013. Other than that he's an upper midcarder that can be slotted into the main event but isn't good enough to be the guy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2022 20:12:22 GMT -5
Sheamus is a class act. I met him back in 2011 and he couldn't have been cooler.
I can see why the higher ups liked him. He's a hard worker, good in the ring, has a unique look and isn't an ego maniac like most of the top guys.
Is he a main event talent? I would say he's a safe hand. If you need a main eventer, he can be that guy. If you need someone put over, he can also do that. Sheamus is a lot like Kane. He can do whatever you need him to.
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