2022-2023 NFL Thread: Perk Patty & Chiefs 2X SB Champs

[Mecca]

Jan 26, 2023 12:32:01 GMT -5 Dr. T is an alien said:

Jan 26, 2023 11:45:35 GMT -5 Mecca said:

They're going after Rodgers is the only thing that makes sense with that move...and Rodgers is Wilsons hero so they think that could help him for the future.

How is Rodgers Wilson’s hero? Rodgers tends to bang women younger than him, not old enough to be his mother.

Oh wait. Wilson is a QB. I forgot that was supposed to be the case after watching him play.

It really is the truth, Rodgers is Wilsons Idol.

[Dr. T is an alien]

Carolina has hired Frank Reich to be their HC.

Reich's interim replacement is still in the running to be the full time HC, which has prompted a couple of thousand Colts fans to start a petition begging Irsay to not hire him full time.

[XIII]

Jan 26, 2023 14:09:25 GMT -5 Dr. T is an alien said:

Carolina has hired Frank Reich to be their HC.

Reich's interim replacement is still in the running to be the full time HC, which has prompted a couple of thousand Colts fans to start a petition begging Irsay to not hire him full time.

Serious question: Is Frank Reich a good head coach? I know he was saddled with some has beens like Wentz and Ryan but other than that was he at least good enough to immediately get another HC gig after getting fired?

[The Captain]

Ashy Hackett sucked big time as a head coach but he seemed pretty well regarded as an assistant in Green Bay and Jacksonville.

[Dr. T is an alien]

Jan 26, 2023 15:06:49 GMT -5 XIII said:

Jan 26, 2023 14:09:25 GMT -5 Dr. T is an alien said:

Carolina has hired Frank Reich to be their HC.

Reich's interim replacement is still in the running to be the full time HC, which has prompted a couple of thousand Colts fans to start a petition begging Irsay to not hire him full time.

Serious question: Is Frank Reich a good head coach? I know he was saddled with some has beens like Wentz and Ryan but other than that was he at least good enough to immediately get another HC gig after getting fired?

Honestly? I don't know.

His first season was the Andrew Luck comeback tour and he looked like a rock star. Luck was always good but Reich made him better....and then he retired.

The next year was the second go around of the Jacoby Brissett Experience and he got a whole lot more out of him than Miami or Cleveland could. He even looked like a real starter for much of the season until he hit a wall.

After that, he polished off the corpse of Phillip Rivers and made a playoff run. I am not sure that's not more on Ballard and Rivers than Reich.

The Wentz Experiment got off to an incredibly rough start when Wentz got predictably hurt and then rubbed Irsay way the wrong way with his vaccine stance when Irsay was trying to get the Colts to be the first 100% vaccinated crowd for competitive reasons.

This season? Well, this season highlighted some issues he has always had. The team gets a slow start each game and has not gelled as much as every other team when the season starts. That's a coaching issue. It's not coincidental that Reich had more issues when both his OC and DC took head coaching positions. Other coaches figure out how to properly delegate and deal with those losses. He did not.

Players love him though. That just was not enough this year.

[Confused Mark Wahlberg]

Jan 26, 2023 15:18:03 GMT -5 The Captain said:

Ashy Hackett sucked big time as a head coach but he seemed pretty well regarded as an assistant in Green Bay and Jacksonville.

And I don't even know how much of the failure was on him or if Wilson is completely washed.

Probably some of both, but I guess we'll see with Russ in a new system.

[XIII]

Jan 26, 2023 15:53:08 GMT -5 Confused Mark Wahlberg said:

Jan 26, 2023 15:18:03 GMT -5 The Captain said:

Ashy Hackett sucked big time as a head coach but he seemed pretty well regarded as an assistant in Green Bay and Jacksonville.

And I don't even know how much of the failure was on him or if Wilson is completely washed.

Probably some of both, but I guess we'll see with Russ in a new system.

I think that Russ is washed but I also think that he was probably “bullying” Hackett a bit because he was a star QB and Hackett was a new coach.  If Russ starts the season off sucking next year his teammates going to beat his ass and take his parking spots and office. lol

[Mecca]

Jan 26, 2023 15:58:36 GMT -5 XIII said:

Jan 26, 2023 15:53:08 GMT -5 Confused Mark Wahlberg said:

And I don't even know how much of the failure was on him or if Wilson is completely washed.

Probably some of both, but I guess we'll see with Russ in a new system.

I think that Russ is washed but I also think that he was probably “bullying” Hackett a bit because he was a star QB and Hackett was a new coach.  If Russ starts the season off sucking next year his teammates going to beat his ass and take his parking spots and office. lol

The Broncos are gonna get some no name coach thar can't get another job...no one wants that job.

[Dr. T is an alien]

Jan 26, 2023 17:44:12 GMT -5 Mecca said:

Jan 26, 2023 15:58:36 GMT -5 XIII said:

I think that Russ is washed but I also think that he was probably “bullying” Hackett a bit because he was a star QB and Hackett was a new coach.  If Russ starts the season off sucking next year his teammates going to beat his ass and take his parking spots and office. lol

The Broncos are gonna get some no name coach thar can't get another job...no one wants that job.

Honestly, it may be the worst opening this cycle.

Panthers: QB situation is very murky. Wilkes did too well to be in a good position to draft a QB, leaving them to either resign Darnold or some other retread. Hey, Wentz will be available, I’m sure!

Houston has bare cupboards, but also have a lot of draft capital and cap space.

Arizona at least has a QB that trends towards having a solid future.

The Colts only real drawback is that Irsay changed his MO. He normally lets his football people do their jobs. He consulted, but never overruled them. He did this season. Outside of that, they’ll likely draft a QB to develop, and a roster without a lot of holes (QB, RG, CB, and depth), and cap space.

The Broncos are stuck with Wilson, traded away a lot to get him, and are likely to start bleeding talent soon.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

They did Wilks super dirty with the Reich hire

[bob]

Jan 26, 2023 10:57:32 GMT -5 Mecca said:

The Jets are hiring Nathaniel Hackett.

[Heart of fools gold]

After digesting the Hackett news I'll say this I still like it more than when they announced Gase and this will either be a complete success or an unmitigated disaster that results in the whole coaching and front office being nuked away. So bring it on 2023 let's get Jetsy!

[Heart of fools gold]

Also the thread name should be changed to Ashy in the big city

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Hackett was a really bad head coach... but he was a damn good OC. If he's just the OC, I think they're gonna be fine. Saleh isn't a pushover and he still runs the ship so... essentially, they want Hackett to bounce back in the role he's proven to be good in.

It's really gonna matter who the Jets get at Quarterback though, ideally, you'd try and coax Rodgers there, but that didn't work the last time a team hired Hackett. Carr and Jimmy G seem like the best best options, pending poking San Fran about Trey Lance or Brock Purdy, which might become a serious discussion for the Niners and other teams in the offseason looking for a Quarterback.

[Dr. T is an alien]

Jan 27, 2023 7:14:45 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Hackett was a really bad head coach... but he was a damn good OC. If he's just the OC, I think they're gonna be fine. Saleh isn't a pushover and he still runs the ship so... essentially, they want Hackett to bounce back in the role he's proven to be good in.

It's really gonna matter who the Jets get at Quarterback though, ideally, you'd try and coax Rodgers there, but that didn't work the last time a team hired Hackett. Carr and Jimmy G seem like the best best options, pending poking San Fran about Trey Lance or Brock Purdy, which might become a serious discussion for the Niners and other teams in the offseason looking for a Quarterback.

Honestly, I don't know that you can get either Lance or Purdy out of the 49ers right now. I'm not certain what Purdy's ceiling is, how much higher Lance's ceiling is, or how Lance recovers from this latest injury. If I am the 49ers, I keep both and have a legit competition during camp to see who emerges as the starter. Unless, of course, someone offers you a stupid deal for either one of them.

[XIII]

Purdy is a tough one, he would likely have huge trade value after how well he has stepped in but you can't really trade him either because he may actually be their legit QB going forward. So you have to keep him and run the risk of him coming back to earth and getting zero in return but since he's still on a rookie contract you just keep him and see what happens.

I think that you probably trade Trey while he still has some value and ride the Purdy train and see where it takes you if you're the 49ers. At worst you're in the NFC championship this season and looking for a QB again in a season or two. Glad I'm not a GM. lol

[sfvega]

Jan 27, 2023 10:14:07 GMT -5 XIII said:

Purdy is a tough one, he would likely have huge trade value after how well he has stepped in but you can't really trade him either because he may actually be their legit QB going forward. So you have to keep him and run the risk of him coming back to earth and getting zero in return but since he's still on a rookie contract you just keep him and see what happens.

I think that you probably trade Trey while he still has some value and ride the Purdy train and see where it takes you if you're the 49ers. At worst you're in the NFC championship this season and looking for a QB again in a season or two. Glad I'm not a GM. lol

Nah, can't sell low on Lance. He still has high upside, just happened to get injured once he got the keys. The return wouldn't be great, and the risk is that you deal a young, potential starting QB.

Keep both. If Purdy comes back to earth, you need Lance. If Lance doesn't develop, you need Purdy.

[Mecca]

If Rodgers goes to the Jets and Brady goes to the Dolphins that would be highly interesting.

[Confused Mark Wahlberg]

The Ash-ster with the Jets means they might be all-in on trading for A-aron.

Which would be funny as this is exactly how Favre got out of GB as well.

[hashtagdaley/JudasDay]

Jan 27, 2023 10:06:23 GMT -5 Dr. T is an alien said:

Jan 27, 2023 7:14:45 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Hackett was a really bad head coach... but he was a damn good OC. If he's just the OC, I think they're gonna be fine. Saleh isn't a pushover and he still runs the ship so... essentially, they want Hackett to bounce back in the role he's proven to be good in.

It's really gonna matter who the Jets get at Quarterback though, ideally, you'd try and coax Rodgers there, but that didn't work the last time a team hired Hackett. Carr and Jimmy G seem like the best best options, pending poking San Fran about Trey Lance or Brock Purdy, which might become a serious discussion for the Niners and other teams in the offseason looking for a Quarterback.

Honestly, I don't know that you can get either Lance or Purdy out of the 49ers right now. I'm not certain what Purdy's ceiling is, how much higher Lance's ceiling is, or how Lance recovers from this latest injury. If I am the 49ers, I keep both and have a legit competition during camp to see who emerges as the starter. Unless, of course, someone offers you a stupid deal for either one of them.

Lance isn’t going anywhere this next season. The cap hit doubles if he’s traded, and no one’s going to blow the doors down with an offer to make it worth the hit. Purdy starter, Lance QB2, then a journeyman.