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Post by chrom on Jun 3, 2022 16:07:33 GMT -5
You’d think Brit was still champ. In Khan's eyes she probably still is.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 3, 2022 16:08:25 GMT -5
She was set to appear in a backstage segment, that is booking the champion in a segment Sure but there's really no reason (past the illness but that isn't really relevant in this case) that you couldn't at least get her in front of the crowd in some way. Let her do the promo on the ramp or something, give her a match on Rampage, hell give her a match on Dark if you have to. I do definitely think there is something to the idea that of the champions in the company Rosa is pretty far and away the one they least care about. You never see this kind of uncertainty as to whether Scorpio or Jade's going to show up week to week but with Rosa it's a total coinflip. Rosa has gotten live promos backstage segments, and a title match in the main event of a show, though, it's not the same thing that happened to Shida where she disappeared for literal weeks at a time I'm not saying they shouldn't use her more, but I am saying they have used her as she's worked through injuries, and it sucks she's sick and can't do anything this week, I hope she gets something good lined up for next. Usually when a story comes out about a wrestlers frustration, AEW tries to buckle down a bit more in terms of a direction and hopefully she gets a worthwhile next challenger. I'd even run Deeb back again if it were a viable choice.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 3, 2022 16:08:56 GMT -5
You’d think Brit was still champ. In Khan's eyes she probably still is. Can we stop doing this EVERY women's thread? F***s sake I know Britt is a feature of the division but her time featured isn't any greater or lesser than a lot of women lately. Especially for the fact she's been in multiple tag matches.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 3, 2022 16:21:13 GMT -5
Doing barely the bare min with your champion is not a key to success
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 3, 2022 16:23:36 GMT -5
Doing barely the bare min with your champion is not a key to success She won the belt in March and has had two good title defenses and multiple live and backstage promos with it since I would say it's a bit above bare minimum. I'm hoping when she's healthy they step it up a bit but they're clearly TRYING with Rosa or have been trying more than they did in earlier days with the belt.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 3, 2022 16:27:35 GMT -5
Doing barely the bare min with your champion is not a key to success She won the belt in March and has had two good title defenses and multiple live and backstage promos with it since I would say it's a bit above bare minimum. I'm hoping when she's healthy they step it up a bit but they're clearly TRYING with Rosa or have been trying more than they did in earlier days with the belt. You can spin it how you want. Damn trying, they should be doing more. This is the bare minimum. Getting interrupted on your first promo, not getting mentioned after a successful title defense (her being sick should not be a factor in recapping her win) She has a legit gripe on not being featured more as champion. She’s the 3rd most important woman behind Britt and Jade despite being champion.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Jun 3, 2022 16:34:23 GMT -5
It's been ONE episode since her last defense on PPV a few days ago
If she was originally scheduled to have a segment Wednesday and that had to be cancelled due to medical reasons there's not much you can do about that.
I would have had whoever her next challenger is going to be do a short segment calling out Rosa
until this thread I didn't realize they didn't mention her or Deeb at all on Dynamite
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Post by asuka007 on Jun 3, 2022 16:36:55 GMT -5
Yeah them not even mentioning her vs. Deeb, Deeb wasn’t on the show either BTW, when it was one of the better matches on the PPV, was baffling.
She’s been champion for like two months now and barely had 20 minutes of TV time total.
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Post by chrom on Jun 3, 2022 16:38:19 GMT -5
Doing barely the bare min with your champion is not a key to success She won the belt in March and has had two good title defenses and multiple live and backstage promos with it since I would say it's a bit above bare minimum. I'm hoping when she's healthy they step it up a bit but they're clearly TRYING with Rosa or have been trying more than they did in earlier days with the belt. They aren't trying, they are barely putting in a token effort for her. Her reign is comparable with Shida's where they both disappeared
Bully Ray said that if the bookers can't find time for the champ, you get rid of the bookers.
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Post by asuka007 on Jun 3, 2022 16:39:26 GMT -5
I heard SRS had backed up the claim about Rosa being unhappy during a stream he did. Anyways would not be surprised if she was because compared to Jade she has been given didly squat as far as screentime goes. You’d be forgiven for thinking that Jade is the top champion with how she’s presented vs. Rosa.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 3, 2022 16:45:03 GMT -5
I heard SRS had backed up the claim about Rosa being unhappy during a stream he did. Anyways would not be surprised if she was because compared to Jade she has been given didly squat as far as screentime goes. You’d be forgiven for thinking that Jade is the top champion with how she’s presented vs. Rosa. The irony being that I think Jade since Rosa became champion has only had two title defenses just like Rosa. Double checking, yes, she's only had three matches since Rosa became champion, and one was a quick Trios squash, the other was against Shafir, and her match vs Anna on PPV. She's gotten segments, but in comparison to Rosa Jade actually hasn't gotten a whole shit ton over her.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 3, 2022 16:45:39 GMT -5
Honestly it's not like they give Jade a gigantic amount of focus either. Usually she gets like two minutes worth of a promo at most and the best they could do for her for her PPV match was pretty much just, "That Rampage match was good, right? Wanna see that again?"
Really I think both reigns are suffering from the same root problem, they've spent so long having Britt, Jade, and to a lesser extent Rosa be the big three of the division who beat everyone that now there really aren't any fresh challengers for either title that are actually credible, especially on the heel side.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 3, 2022 16:47:54 GMT -5
She won the belt in March and has had two good title defenses and multiple live and backstage promos with it since I would say it's a bit above bare minimum. I'm hoping when she's healthy they step it up a bit but they're clearly TRYING with Rosa or have been trying more than they did in earlier days with the belt. You can spin it how you want. Damn trying, they should be doing more. This is the bare minimum. Getting interrupted on your first promo, not getting mentioned after a successful title defense (her being sick should not be a factor in recapping her win) She has a legit gripe on not being featured more as champion. She’s the 3rd most important woman behind Britt and Jade despite being champion. I assume they were waiting to see how she'd feel for Rampage, I'd give her a recap tonight if anything if she's not going to be on the show. I still think she's been featured fine, I'm hoping she is featured more since it looks like her injuries are behind her. Also the promo interruption was bad and AEW knew it was bad, so much so they gave her a long uninterrupted live promo the next week, so it's not like they aren't recognizing the problems. At least Rosa seems to be adamant about them so hopefully they continue giving her better direction
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 3, 2022 16:49:33 GMT -5
Honestly it's not like they give Jade a gigantic amount of focus either. Usually she gets like two minutes worth of a promo at most and the best they could do for her for her PPV match was pretty much just, "That Rampage match was good, right? Wanna see that again?" Really I think both reigns are suffering from the same root problem, they've spent so long having Britt, Jade, and to a lesser extent Rosa be the big three of the division who beat everyone that now there really aren't any fresh challengers for either title that are actually credible, especially on the heel side. The Jade match was because Statlander had to fill in for Shida, which is unfortunate because it seemed set up for a great DoN match, but her storyline with The Baddies vs Athena/Statlander/Anna gives a lot of women a lot of time and potential focus, so that's going well I still think Rosa/Deeb 2 has legs to it, and I'd love to see them run it back.
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Post by chrom on Jun 3, 2022 16:50:36 GMT -5
Honestly it's not like they give Jade a gigantic amount of focus either. Usually she gets like two minutes worth of a promo at most and the best they could do for her for her PPV match was pretty much just, "That Rampage match was good, right? Wanna see that again?" Really I think both reigns are suffering from the same root problem, they've spent so long having Britt, Jade, and to a lesser extent Rosa be the big three of the division who beat everyone that now there really aren't any fresh challengers for either title that are actually credible, especially on the heel side. You don't need to have a heel to be a challenger for Rosa.
Put Riho against her, fans always give her big reactions
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 3, 2022 16:51:02 GMT -5
She won the belt in March and has had two good title defenses and multiple live and backstage promos with it since I would say it's a bit above bare minimum. I'm hoping when she's healthy they step it up a bit but they're clearly TRYING with Rosa or have been trying more than they did in earlier days with the belt. They aren't trying, they are barely putting in a token effort for her. Her reign is comparable with Shida's where they both disappeared. It's not, I watched Shida's reign, she was absent from TV for weeks at a time as champion This is the first week where unless they recap Rosa/Deeb, she isn't getting a feature on TV as champion and it's because she's sick. I want to see more out of her, but it's not the same
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Post by champchumpchange on Jun 3, 2022 16:51:42 GMT -5
You’d be forgiven for thinking that Jade is the top champion with how she’s presented vs. Rosa. The irony being that I think Jade since Rosa became champion has only had two title defenses just like Rosa. Double checking, yes, she's only had three matches since Rosa became champion, and one was a quick Trios squash, the other was against Shafir, and her match vs Anna on PPV. She's gotten segments, but in comparison to Rosa Jade actually hasn't gotten a whole shit ton over her. She's been on TV every week. Has built a stable. Dude, come on now - you can't compare how much time they've gotten, and the presentation they've both been given.. but go on, justify why Tony's right, and Rosa's own reported frustrations (which you dismissed early on) are overblown, or flat out wrong.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 3, 2022 16:53:35 GMT -5
Honestly it's not like they give Jade a gigantic amount of focus either. Usually she gets like two minutes worth of a promo at most and the best they could do for her for her PPV match was pretty much just, "That Rampage match was good, right? Wanna see that again?" Really I think both reigns are suffering from the same root problem, they've spent so long having Britt, Jade, and to a lesser extent Rosa be the big three of the division who beat everyone that now there really aren't any fresh challengers for either title that are actually credible, especially on the heel side. And the rest of the Division has added on names but still suffered. Statlander comes back and takes an L. Ruby has lost 3 big matchups. Athena is new but time will tell how she received. Conti has been stuck in mess with Sammy. Anna Jay just lost to Jade. Toni just came in. The hope is someone ascends up to match them. Time will tell on Toni and Athena since they in theory should be there. Tho feels like they are waiting for a Charlotte or Sasha Banks to drop in their lap
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 3, 2022 16:56:51 GMT -5
The irony being that I think Jade since Rosa became champion has only had two title defenses just like Rosa. Double checking, yes, she's only had three matches since Rosa became champion, and one was a quick Trios squash, the other was against Shafir, and her match vs Anna on PPV. She's gotten segments, but in comparison to Rosa Jade actually hasn't gotten a whole shit ton over her. She's been on TV every week. Has built a stable. Dude, come on now - you can't compare how much time they've gotten, and the presentation they've both been given.. but go on, justify why Tony's right, and Rosa's own reported frustrations (which you dismissed early on) are overblown, or flat out wrong. I dismissed it early on because I don't trust WhatCulture, and PWI and SRS later said her frustrations also stem from other things, so fair enough I'm not justifying Tony Khan "Being right", yeah they gave Jade a stable but Rosa's gotten long, live promos multiple weeks since she's been champion and they gave her feud with Deeb a lot of time to try and build it up. Rosa has also been on TV every week until this one in some form or fashion, she's sick this week, so idk if they'll show a recap or something, but that's not in AEW's control I'm not saying it's perfect, I'm actively saying I want Rosa to be presented more, but I also don't think her presentation has been total dogshit like some are saying here, and the prodding and poking for a response with the "come on, justify it" you're doing here doesn't really help matters either. As I said, I hope Rosa gets better and she goes into her next feud well, whatever it may be as soon as this Wednesday.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2022 17:03:06 GMT -5
Honestly it's not like they give Jade a gigantic amount of focus either. Usually she gets like two minutes worth of a promo at most and the best they could do for her for her PPV match was pretty much just, "That Rampage match was good, right? Wanna see that again?" Really I think both reigns are suffering from the same root problem, they've spent so long having Britt, Jade, and to a lesser extent Rosa be the big three of the division who beat everyone that now there really aren't any fresh challengers for either title that are actually credible, especially on the heel side. And the rest of the Division has added on names but still suffered. Statlander comes back and takes an L. Ruby has lost 3 big matchups. Athena is new but time will tell how she received. Conti has been stuck in mess with Sammy. Anna Jay just lost to Jade. Toni just came in. The hope is someone ascends up to match them. Time will tell on Toni and Athena since they in theory should be there. Tho feels like they are waiting for a Charlotte or Sasha Banks to drop in their lap Oh if they already have been clued in that Sasha is willing to jump ship to them and it would only be a few months wait then it would explain why things feel like a holding pattern. The only question would be which champion to push Sasha towards because whichever it is she is winning the title...the obvious would be Jade but I find the Rosa Vs Sasha match up far more intriguiging.
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