No Longer a Produceman
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Jun 7, 2022 3:45:08 GMT -5
*farts*
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jun 7, 2022 3:49:53 GMT -5
She's stale as hell, she hasn't really evolved as a wrestler or a character since the UpperCats back in 2014/5 at the most. So she's competent and safe but also not interesting at all.
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Mozenrath
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 7, 2022 4:06:49 GMT -5
Familiarity breeds contempt.
I like Natalya, and she can sometimes knock it out of the park, but she's been on WWE TV for a very long time, and it's pretty easy to take her for granted. I think that whenever she hangs up her boots, she's absolutely going to be a hall of famer, and there's not really any arguing otherwise, but for now, she's 40 and has been a near-constant fixture, so it's easy to not really appreciate her.
Golden Grahams are fine, and they've stuck around for a reason, but they're not going to turn heads like new gimmicks do in the cereal aisle.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 7, 2022 5:33:30 GMT -5
Familiarity breeds contempt. I like Natalya, and she can sometimes knock it out of the park, but she's been on WWE TV for a very long time, and it's pretty easy to take her for granted. I think that whenever she hangs up her boots, she's absolutely going to be a hall of famer, and there's not really any arguing otherwise, but for now, she's 40 and has been a near-constant fixture, so it's easy to not really appreciate her. Golden Grahams are fine, and they've stuck around for a reason, but they're not going to turn heads like new gimmicks do in the cereal aisle. It also doesn't help, through no fault of her own, many other fresher options have been not treated great and disposed of in the last couple of years. Like, you could easily slot in a Dakota Kai right now if not for the fact they axed her along with most of Raw, Smackdown and NXT's women's divisions.
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Post by auph10imitated on Jun 7, 2022 5:59:48 GMT -5
I feel like she is this generation's Molly Holly, but I feel like she gets a bit of an unfair wrap and its probably because she's been around much longer than Molly. Molly was there 5 years so you can appreciate her more in hindsight, Natalya is just hitting year 14! That's a long long run, so its much easier to bash her.
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Ben Wyatt
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 7, 2022 6:01:46 GMT -5
She's rarely ever made me feel something emotionally as a character. This is kinda my thing with her and has been for a while. She's never been convincing as a heel outside of her and Beth doing the Divas of Doom stuff and her only really decent face run as after Anvil died and that got old really fast. The rest of the time she's just....there. Someone called her the female Ziggler and that's pretty apt
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 7, 2022 6:10:15 GMT -5
She's rarely ever made me feel something emotionally as a character. This is kinda my thing with her and has been for a while. She's never been convincing as a heel outside of her and Beth doing the Divas of Doom stuff and her only really decent face run as after Anvil died and that got old really fast. The rest of the time she's just....there. Someone called her the female Ziggler and that's pretty apt The Anvil stuff they never really gave time to, either. She had these glasses, they got destroyed that same segment and there was no reaction because they only just introduced them so of course nobody cared. Like, if it were a few weeks, yeah, sure, the crowd would know how much these meant and we've seen them on TV so then the emotional investment can come but all it did was make people go "She's crying over glasses? Weird".
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Ben Wyatt
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Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 7, 2022 6:13:55 GMT -5
This is kinda my thing with her and has been for a while. She's never been convincing as a heel outside of her and Beth doing the Divas of Doom stuff and her only really decent face run as after Anvil died and that got old really fast. The rest of the time she's just....there. Someone called her the female Ziggler and that's pretty apt The Anvil stuff they never really gave time to, either. She had these glasses, they got destroyed that same segment and there was no reaction because they only just introduced them so of course nobody cared. Like, if it were a few weeks, yeah, sure, the crowd would know how much these meant and we've seen them on TV so then the emotional investment can come but all it did was make people go "She's crying over glasses? Weird". There was also her tables match with....(Ruby?) where they had a picture of him on one of the tables. Christ, that was stupid. I concede that you have a point.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 7, 2022 6:16:17 GMT -5
The Anvil stuff they never really gave time to, either. She had these glasses, they got destroyed that same segment and there was no reaction because they only just introduced them so of course nobody cared. Like, if it were a few weeks, yeah, sure, the crowd would know how much these meant and we've seen them on TV so then the emotional investment can come but all it did was make people go "She's crying over glasses? Weird". There was also her tables match with....(Ruby?) where they had a picture of him on one of the tables. Christ, that was stupid. I concede that you have a point. Yeah, she was feuding with the Riott Sqaud at the time so they had that tables match. Completely forgot that until now. Just...so weird.
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Ben Wyatt
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Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 7, 2022 6:18:02 GMT -5
There was also her tables match with....(Ruby?) where they had a picture of him on one of the tables. Christ, that was stupid. I concede that you have a point. Yeah, she was feuding with the Riott Sqaud at the time so they had that tables match. Completely forgot that until now. Just...so weird. I really wish they had committed to Ruby. Now I'm sad and angry
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Post by theironyuppie on Jun 7, 2022 6:23:30 GMT -5
They've never really tapped into it on WWE programming (with the exception of her brief 'Coach Nattie' run in 2016 where she annoyed SD's faces and heels alike by unintentionally quoting old pop songs), but Natalya's social media has a fun and offbeat humour to it, including a series of self-feuds with her assistants:
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 7, 2022 6:35:22 GMT -5
She's rarely ever made me feel something emotionally as a character. This is kinda my thing with her and has been for a while. She's never been convincing as a heel outside of her and Beth doing the Divas of Doom stuff and her only really decent face run as after Anvil died and that got old really fast. The rest of the time she's just....there. Someone called her the female Ziggler and that's pretty apt I remember her having a decent feud with Nikki Bella at one point, but I may be rating it highly just since they had a Falls Count Anywhere match that was genuinely probably one of Nikki's best matches. (It was the one where Maryse jumped her and it led up to the Cena/Nikki vs Miz/Maryse match, and had Nattie win this particular feud to segue into it, sort of a rarity for Nattie.)
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 7, 2022 6:38:56 GMT -5
They've never really tapped into it on WWE programming (with the exception of her brief 'Coach Nattie' run in 2016 where she annoyed SD's faces and heels alike by unintentionally quoting old pop songs), but Natalya's social media has a fun and offbeat humour to it, including a series of self-feuds with her assistants:
The reason I still follow Natalya on Twitter is because of these bits. She seems to have a lot of fun with them.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Jun 7, 2022 6:40:21 GMT -5
She's bread. Perfectly fine, great to have, and a solid ingredient to a lot of dishes but wouldn't be the convincing factor for me to try something. My doctor told me to avoid bread as much as possible
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Post by saneiac on Jun 7, 2022 7:51:46 GMT -5
Yeah, she was feuding with the Riott Sqaud at the time so they had that tables match. Completely forgot that until now. Just...so weird. Unrelated, but that feud was the starting point for people getting behind Liv Morgan. Liv was a crazy bumping machine during that feud.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 7, 2022 8:44:08 GMT -5
She's rarely ever made me feel something emotionally as a character. This is kinda my thing with her and has been for a while. She's never been convincing as a heel outside of her and Beth doing the Divas of Doom stuff and her only really decent face run as after Anvil died and that got old really fast. The rest of the time she's just....there. Someone called her the female Ziggler and that's pretty apt Her run in NXT 2.0 wasn't bad. That's what she should be doing more of, working with the rookies and helping to get them ready, also it allows her to get some momentum and step out of the comfort zone.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2022 9:04:48 GMT -5
This is kinda my thing with her and has been for a while. She's never been convincing as a heel outside of her and Beth doing the Divas of Doom stuff and her only really decent face run as after Anvil died and that got old really fast. The rest of the time she's just....there. Someone called her the female Ziggler and that's pretty apt Her run in NXT 2.0 wasn't bad. That's what she should be doing more of, working with the rookies and helping to get them ready, also it allows her to get some momentum and step out of the comfort zone. She genuinely seemed to be enjoying her time in NXT and working with the younger women like Cora. I'm sure being pretty over for the first time in a long time also made her feel good.
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Ben Wyatt
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Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 7, 2022 9:22:08 GMT -5
This is kinda my thing with her and has been for a while. She's never been convincing as a heel outside of her and Beth doing the Divas of Doom stuff and her only really decent face run as after Anvil died and that got old really fast. The rest of the time she's just....there. Someone called her the female Ziggler and that's pretty apt Her run in NXT 2.0 wasn't bad. That's what she should be doing more of, working with the rookies and helping to get them ready, also it allows her to get some momentum and step out of the comfort zone. No doubt. I liked it too. But it's an outlier in terms of her being even a little interesting over the last 3-4 years.
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Post by Squirrel Master on Jun 7, 2022 10:29:29 GMT -5
My wife’s name is Natalya so she can do no wrong by me. She makes her opponents look good, so she knows her role, and I like the pink and black attire, it never gets old.
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Post by fw91 on Jun 7, 2022 10:32:59 GMT -5
I don’t mind her, she’s just the mother hen of the ladies locker room, and really isn’t featured all that much to critique.
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