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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 8, 2024 1:54:17 GMT -5
Oh you gotta be kidding me. So Hollywood Reporter, one of the many publications that did vile hit pieces against the director of The Marvels, is instead tweeting out “Hang in there, Todd Phillips”, while linking to a story of Francis Ford Coppola praising Phillips and this film. Now mind you, The Marvels did far better than Joker 2 both financially and critically. The Marvels did not deserve the beating it got. It was good and motherf***ing fun.
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Post by schma on Oct 8, 2024 2:09:22 GMT -5
Oh you gotta be kidding me. So Hollywood Reporter, one of the many publications that did vile hit pieces against the director of The Marvels, is instead tweeting out “Hang in there, Todd Phillips”, while linking to a story of Francis Ford Coppola praising Phillips and this film. Now mind you, The Marvels did far better than Joker 2 both financially and critically. The Marvels did not deserve the beating it got. It was good and motherf***ing fun. It was a good time. Definitely not one of their best, more middle of the pack. It really should have been more successful.
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Post by jm on Oct 8, 2024 2:49:17 GMT -5
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Oct 8, 2024 3:12:41 GMT -5
Not gonna lie, every word I read about how bad it is and how bad the reception to it is makes me want to see it more than I did back when I first heard about it
I mean not to the extent of paying to go see it. I’ll wait till it’s streaming. I’m a masochist, I’m not crazy
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 8, 2024 6:41:49 GMT -5
Overseas total was also overestimated, giving the movie an opening weekend gross of $114.8 million. Barely over half of what The Marvels did.
If this thing doesn't set a new all time second weekend drop for a movie that was #1 the previous week it's solely going to be because of the fact that Halloween Ends was also on Peacock.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Oct 8, 2024 6:58:51 GMT -5
I said it before, I'll say it again, WB needs to stop giving Batman movies to pretentious artiste's that are secretly ashamed they're making Batman movies.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Oct 8, 2024 7:32:32 GMT -5
Phillips biggest misfire imo was he went out of his way to rip off (poorly) Scorsese without ripping off his sense of humor…in a movie about Joker lol.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 8, 2024 7:35:56 GMT -5
I said it before, I'll say it again, WB needs to stop giving Batman movies to pretentious artiste's that are secretly ashamed they're making Batman movies. Honestly that's part of what's so refreshing about The Batman. While it is definitely taking a more serious and grounded approach like a lot of those do, it's also really obviously coming from a place of genuine love for the source material just given how many in-jokes and nods there are in it and how unlike the Nolan movies it's far more concerned about Batman than it is about Bruce Wayne.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Oct 8, 2024 7:39:12 GMT -5
The concept of a Broadway stage play is kind of interesting and probably would have wound closer to being profitable, at least. I can't recall a movie where the "sequel" would be a stage play starring the actor from the first movie.
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Post by FinalGwen on Oct 8, 2024 7:47:46 GMT -5
Kinda glad they didn't take up space on Broadway with a shitty jukebox written by a hack who disdains musicals as a format.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Oct 8, 2024 7:48:39 GMT -5
The Marvels did not deserve the beating it got. It was good and motherf***ing fun. It was a good time. Definitely not one of their best, more middle of the pack. It really should have been more successful. Both Marvels movies were affected by the state of Marvel Studios at the time. Captain Marvel got a boost from Infinity War (though not to the degree the incels claim) and Marvels got dragged down by actual crap like Secret Invasion.
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Post by XIII on Oct 8, 2024 7:51:39 GMT -5
People try to get too cute with the writing and humanize the Joker and give him a backstory when all that people really want to see is him rampaging around and giving out some dark one liners along the way. The only time that any Joker backstory ever really worked on screen was Batman 1989 and that was more because Jack Nicholson just crushed the role to the point that the backstory was pretty unnecessary. Even Ledger’s performance has a lot of dark humor to it. Joaquin’s is just a long joke with no punchline.
The musical part was never the problem, I guarantee that if it was Joker and Harley terrorizing Gotham while occasionally breaking out into a Broadway number with some dark humor and it would have been over, brother. As it is it’s a two hours of a depressing losers life with callbacks to other movies and media. Fittingly since the the first movie was essentially Taxi Driver, Joker 2 is the equivalent of Taxi Driver 2, if it existed, Travis Bickle in prison/mental institution and going on trial with fantasies in his head. Completely useless as a sequel.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Oct 8, 2024 7:56:20 GMT -5
I said it before, I'll say it again, WB needs to stop giving Batman movies to pretentious artiste's that are secretly ashamed they're making Batman movies. Honestly that's part of what's so refreshing about The Batman. While it is definitely taking a more serious and grounded approach like a lot of those do, it's also really obviously coming from a place of genuine love for the source material just given how many in-jokes and nods there are in it and how unlike the Nolan movies it's far more concerned about Batman than it is about Bruce Wayne. I disagree. I found The Batman to be long, boring and pretentious. Just because it's actually based on a comic book story doesn't stop it from feeling like it was made by someone who thinks Batman should be more The Sopranos then, y'know, Batman.
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Post by Fade on Oct 8, 2024 10:14:09 GMT -5
I’ll say this much: Whenever they do Joker again, they’ve gotta flip the script again. I would honestly say something more along the lines of Romero, Hamill or Nicholson.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Oct 8, 2024 10:28:08 GMT -5
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Post by thechase on Oct 8, 2024 10:31:02 GMT -5
Just imagine he's Carrottop.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Oct 8, 2024 11:35:23 GMT -5
Todd Phillips in 2019: "Joker is not a comic book movie." Todd Phillips in 2024: "Joker is not Joker." Todd Phillips in 2025: "Joaquin Phoenix is not Joaquin Phoenix. He actually died in 2014. We replaced him like they did The Ultimate Warrior."
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Oct 8, 2024 11:45:10 GMT -5
Todd Phillips in 2019: "Joker is not a comic book movie." Todd Phillips in 2024: "Joker is not Joker." Todd Phillips in 2025: "Joaquin Phoenix is not Joaquin Phoenix. He actually died in 2014. We replaced him like they did The Ultimate Warrior." Movie? I never made a movie!
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Post by Schizo on Oct 8, 2024 12:13:41 GMT -5
Todd Phillips in 2025: "Joaquin Phoenix is not Joaquin Phoenix. He actually died in 2014. We replaced him like they did The Ultimate Warrior." Movie? I never made a movie! Todd Philips: “Iam not Todd Phillips!, I created Todd Phillips, My name is Todd Phillips, but Iam not Todd Phillips
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 8, 2024 12:34:02 GMT -5
It was a good time. Definitely not one of their best, more middle of the pack. It really should have been more successful. Both Marvels movies were affected by the state of Marvel Studios at the time. Captain Marvel got a boost from Infinity War (though not to the degree the incels claim) and Marvels got dragged down by actual crap like Secret Invasion. I'm not sure on that because so did Antman and the Wasp and that didn't make nearly as much money as Captain Marvel, and that was clearly going to be closer connected to End Game due to Antman actually talking to the rest of the team. and the Marvels also came out in the middle of the Strike and so there was like no promotion because of it.
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