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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 14, 2022 17:17:01 GMT -5
They haven't booked as well as they should've after her return but she's definitely not a jobber. A jobber is someone who just gets squashed and has no direction. If she was losing to the likes of say Nikki and Doudrop then yes you could probably say she's a jobber. She has lost competitive matches to the current champion and the top heel whom she's also currently in a feud with. Also if she loses next week then who gets the fourth spot on Raw? At least if Becky loses she can complain about it and weasel her way somehow stemming from that. Asuka you can't do that since that wouldn't be a face thing to do. I'm guessing Asuka wins maybe wins after Dana helps her and then Becky finds some other way in. It wouldn't shock me if Dana got the last spot Now that you mention it I could see that happening as they've been giving her some focus lately. Also it seems like they usually give Dana a spot in MITB most years. Don't know who she would beat to get in though as after next week I don't think there's going to be any other women left on Raw that haven't had qualifying matches or are in the title match. I would've said Sonya but unless I've missed something she's been MIA for the last month for some reason.
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Post by Instant Classic on Jun 14, 2022 23:53:21 GMT -5
I wanted Liv to win, but Iβd like Becky to win to get her to Smackdown to feud with Ronda. Itβs the biggest match for the women they can do.
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Post by Rise on Jun 15, 2022 14:25:53 GMT -5
I wanted Liv to win, but Iβd like Becky to win to get her to Smackdown to feud with Ronda. Itβs the biggest match for the women they can do. Surely they can just do that via a promo or a run in. Becky doesn't need MitB to call Ronda out and the case can be used to build someone
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Post by canceled4truth on Jun 15, 2022 14:45:38 GMT -5
The best option is Bayley returns and wins it a la Brock in 2019
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Post by clifford on Jun 16, 2022 5:11:06 GMT -5
The best option is Bayley returns and wins it a la Brock in 2019 That's fine as long as the rest of the field doesn't do what they did in 2019 and just freeze and stare at Bayley and each other for the time it takes her to hit the ring.
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Post by mistery on Jun 16, 2022 9:59:12 GMT -5
I feel regardless of who wins the case, they are failing their cash in. Both for the men and the women. Ronda isn't losing that title until Wrestlemania next year. And I don't think they are taking the title off of Bianca until they give her what she wants (which is an extended feud with Charlotte).
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Post by CeilingFan on Jun 16, 2022 10:04:38 GMT -5
I feel regardless of who wins the case, they are failing their cash in. Both for the men and the women. Ronda isn't losing that title until Wrestlemania next year. And I don't think they are taking the title off of Bianca until they give her what she wants (which is an extended feud with Charlotte). I have a strong feeling that at WM it will be Bianca vs Rousey in a Unification Match!
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Post by mistery on Jun 16, 2022 10:09:01 GMT -5
I feel regardless of who wins the case, they are failing their cash in. Both for the men and the women. Ronda isn't losing that title until Wrestlemania next year. And I don't think they are taking the title off of Bianca until they give her what she wants (which is an extended feud with Charlotte). I have a strong feeling that at WM it will be Bianca vs Rousey in a Unification Match! Nah, Bryan Alvarez was talking about it a week or two ago on WOL apparently, but from what he understands, they want to do Becky vs Ronda for both titles at WM (and to be honest I wouldn't be shocked if they put the title back on Becky at Clash, regardless of what Bianca wants). Although I don't think there will be any sort of unification match at all unless they introduce more titles for the women. Because at least the men have the US and IC titles to feud over still. Where the women have nothing outside of their big titles. It's why I'm not against the idea of them dropping the women's tag titles and giving RAW and Smackdown each a singles midcard title for the women.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 18, 2022 11:40:17 GMT -5
Does Seth really have a chance of winning here? Saw some people mention it in the Smackdown live thread.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 18, 2022 12:10:53 GMT -5
Does Seth really have a chance of winning here? Saw some people mention it in the Smackdown live thread. Heβs as much a shot as anyone. Depends on if Theory and Lashley end up in the ladder match or in their own US title match, because Theory has been my guess for months.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 18, 2022 14:37:48 GMT -5
Does Seth really have a chance of winning here? Saw some people mention it in the Smackdown live thread. I would say he has a pretty good shot as he has a lot of momentum right now from the Cody thing. Only problem is you then have the conundrum of them never having Roman Reigns lose a match so I don't know how they would be able to tie Seth into that. Unless I guess Cody beats Reigns and Seth cashes in on him. Which would be the absolute wrong thing to do as with how ridiculously long Reigns reign has been it needs to be a super cool feel good moment. Knowing them I wouldn't put it past them though.
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Post by canceled4truth on Jun 18, 2022 20:19:31 GMT -5
Tfw Seth wins MITB and they recreate the WrestleMania 31 ending at SummerSlam
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 19, 2022 15:18:01 GMT -5
I guess the women's match isn't as intriguing? With Bianca and Ronda as champions, either attempt at that would seem to look like a failure.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 19, 2022 18:34:50 GMT -5
I guess the women's match isn't as intriguing? With Bianca and Ronda as champions, either attempt at that would seem to look like a failure. Rhea not being in it I think hurts as she's the one person who could both believably beat either of them and it also feel fresh at the same time. Therefore it's either going to be someone who tries to cash in quick and fails or a usual suspect like Charlotte or Becky who will hold onto it a bit and then successfully cash in. It's highly likely the four women in the title matches at Mania next year are going to be the same as they were this year just with the opponents switched around so I could see MITB being a tool to build to one of those matches. More likely Charlotte cashing in on Belair. I'm thinking Becky will probably win the Rumble to set up the rumored Ronda match.
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Post by mistery on Jun 20, 2022 14:23:29 GMT -5
I guess the women's match isn't as intriguing? With Bianca and Ronda as champions, either attempt at that would seem to look like a failure. Rhea not being in it I think hurts as she's the one person who could both believably beat either of them and it also feel fresh at the same time. Therefore it's either going to be someone who tries to cash in quick and fails or a usual suspect like Charlotte or Becky who will hold onto it a bit and then successfully cash in. It's highly likely the four women in the title matches at Mania next year are going to be the same as they were this year just with the opponents switched around so I could see MITB being a tool to build to one of those matches. More likely Charlotte cashing in on Belair. I'm thinking Becky will probably win the Rumble to set up the rumored Ronda match. I dunno if Becky will win the Rumble, mainly because I think she'll be drafted over to Smackdown in the upcoming draft, especially if Sasha and Naomi really are gone. Especially with WWE refusing to call up any women from NXT at this point. And Charlotte will get drafted to RAW. I do agree with the idea that Charlotte or Becky is winning the MITB case though. And in the case of Becky, I think if she does win it, she'll fail her cash in on Bianca, to further her downward spiral and make her even more delusional. Plus we are about due for a failed cash in for the women. And it's better it happens to an actual established star like Becky over someone who isn't established like an NXT callup or something.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 20, 2022 15:00:07 GMT -5
Rhea not being in it I think hurts as she's the one person who could both believably beat either of them and it also feel fresh at the same time. Therefore it's either going to be someone who tries to cash in quick and fails or a usual suspect like Charlotte or Becky who will hold onto it a bit and then successfully cash in. It's highly likely the four women in the title matches at Mania next year are going to be the same as they were this year just with the opponents switched around so I could see MITB being a tool to build to one of those matches. More likely Charlotte cashing in on Belair. I'm thinking Becky will probably win the Rumble to set up the rumored Ronda match. I dunno if Becky will win the Rumble, mainly because I think she'll be drafted over to Smackdown in the upcoming draft, especially if Sasha and Naomi really are gone. Especially with WWE refusing to call up any women from NXT at this point. And Charlotte will get drafted to RAW. I do agree with the idea that Charlotte or Becky is winning the MITB case though. And in the case of Becky, I think if she does win it, she'll fail her cash in on Bianca, to further her downward spiral and make her even more delusional. Plus we are about due for a failed cash in for the women. And it's better it happens to an actual established star like Becky over someone who isn't established like an NXT callup or something. I could see both Becky as well as Charlotte staying put. Seems like they like Becky on Raw and Charlotte on Smackdown. That's where they both always end up it seems likely due to the respective executives of the networks of those shows wanting them. I'm guessing Bianca will be the big star who gets switched. However then that leaves a hole for a marquee face on Raw. Alexa and Asuka aren't really presented as main eventers or big deals anymore and both feel more midcard now and there really isn't anyone Smackdown could give them back in return as I think I heard that Ronda is another Fox really wants on their show. If Sasha returns that would be an option but that's still up in the air. It's another reason why them not caring about anyone outside Charlotte, Becky, Ronda, and Bianca is a problem. It leads to depth issues and people not being credible enough to fill big holes. Who do you think is winning the Rumble if not Becky? Charlotte or Bianca I assume? They are due for a repeat Rumble winner as all the winners of the five Women's Rumbles so far were different. Asuka, Becky, Charlotte, Bianca, Ronda. If they have someone fail the cash in Becky would be the best choice as with all she's accomplished she could easily take it and recover. Also it would play into her current story. Someone who isn't as established and hasn't gotten there yet like a Liv or a Lacey or a Raquel it would pretty much be a career killer.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2022 18:16:51 GMT -5
They need to play up how Natalya has absolutely zero chance of winning in this match as a selling point to somehow reverse psychology people into thinking that Natalya is somehow leaving as champion when in reality its definitely not going to happen.
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Post by mistery on Jun 20, 2022 20:59:14 GMT -5
They need to play up how Natalya has absolutely zero chance of winning in this match as a selling point to somehow reverse psychology people into thinking that Natalya is somehow leaving as champion when in reality its definitely not going to happen. Even that won't work lol
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 20, 2022 21:19:00 GMT -5
They need to play up how Natalya has absolutely zero chance of winning in this match as a selling point to somehow reverse psychology people into thinking that Natalya is somehow leaving as champion when in reality its definitely not going to happen. "Natalya is a 5000 to 1 underdog against Ronda" "These two fought each other four years ago and Ronda won convincingly" "Ronda might have an injured leg but even with one leg she could still easily beat Natalya without even trying that hard"
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 20, 2022 21:27:52 GMT -5
Carmella is always the boring alternative option isn't she? Last year Bayley gets injured leading up to MITB and they need someone to lose to BIanca so they choose her. This year Rhea gets injured and can't face Bianca so they dust Carmella off again.
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