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Post by Dub H on Jul 16, 2022 19:00:53 GMT -5
thats 5 minutes a talent loses and its not gonna be the onest that get half of the show Yeah, but it's also 5 minutes. I think people want to hear and see what they want to. It's Vince. People can dislike it, but it's still Vince. You wont be drawing over that when Vince is the one in the news. People want to know if he'll address anything, and that is gonna pop a rating more than Aliyah vs Raquel will. 5 minutes of a women getting the only tv time she will get that week in the middle of a scandal of sexual abuse against women. It's not nothing
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jul 16, 2022 19:03:38 GMT -5
From PW Insider:
There are more Vince McMahon stories being worked on by a number of mainstream media outlets, PWInsider.com can confirm.
PWInsider.com has learned from someone who was contacted for a potential interview that HBO's Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel has been prepping a potential story on the McMahon allegations. They have been attempting to reach out to former female employees of the company.
We can also confirm that reporters for the Wall Street Journal are working on another potential story on McMahon that they expect to drop in the coming weeks and that they've been working to connect with former WWE women's wrestlers in recent days.
Variety, meanwhile, ran a piece on the McMahon allegations and the potential they have on WWE President Nick Khan's push to expand the financial goals of the company, especially as major media deals with FOX, NBC and Hulu, among others will be coming due over the next few years and as the company starts to plot a course with relationships with Netflix and Disney, among others.
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Post by Legion on Jul 16, 2022 19:04:53 GMT -5
Yeah, but it's also 5 minutes. I think people want to hear and see what they want to. It's Vince. People can dislike it, but it's still Vince. You wont be drawing over that when Vince is the one in the news. People want to know if he'll address anything, and that is gonna pop a rating more than Aliyah vs Raquel will. 5 minutes of a women getting the only tv time she will get that week in the middle of a scandal of sexual abuse against women. It's not nothing It's still Vince.
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Post by Legion on Jul 16, 2022 19:07:11 GMT -5
From PW Insider: There are more Vince McMahon stories being worked on by a number of mainstream media outlets, PWInsider.com can confirm. PWInsider.com has learned from someone who was contacted for a potential interview that HBO's Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel has been prepping a potential story on the McMahon allegations. They have been attempting to reach out to former female employees of the company. We can also confirm that reporters for the Wall Street Journal are working on another potential story on McMahon that they expect to drop in the coming weeks and that they've been working to connect with former WWE women's wrestlers in recent days. Variety, meanwhile, ran a piece on the McMahon allegations and the potential they have on WWE President Nick Khan's push to expand the financial goals of the company, especially as major media deals with FOX, NBC and Hulu, among others will be coming due over the next few years and as the company starts to plot a course with relationships with Netflix and Disney, among others. This is what will bring him down. Doesn't matter if true, doesn't matter if possible - what matters is how many accusations come forward.
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 16, 2022 19:07:32 GMT -5
5 minutes of a women getting the only tv time she will get that week in the middle of a scandal of sexual abuse against women. It's not nothing It's still Vince. And he shouldn't be on the f***ing tv right now fishing for validation when he's a disgusting f***ing sex offender.
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Post by Legion on Jul 16, 2022 19:17:32 GMT -5
And he shouldn't be on the f***ing tv right now fishing for validation when he's a disgusting f***ing sex offender. Oh, I dont disagree, but to suggest anything is a bigger draw than him potentially addressing the issues is bogus. Vince is what people want to see and hear from right now
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Post by gl83 on Jul 16, 2022 19:36:02 GMT -5
Yeah, but it's also 5 minutes. I think people want to hear and see what they want to. It's Vince. People can dislike it, but it's still Vince. You wont be drawing over that when Vince is the one in the news. People want to know if he'll address anything, and that is gonna pop a rating more than Aliyah vs Raquel will. 5 minutes of a women getting the only tv time she will get that week in the middle of a scandal of sexual abuse against women. It's not nothing 5 minutes is usually how much time the women on Smackdown get, period....which is another can of worms.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Jul 16, 2022 19:40:20 GMT -5
And he shouldn't be on the f***ing tv right now fishing for validation when he's a disgusting f***ing sex offender. Oh, I dont disagree, but to suggest anything is a bigger draw than him potentially addressing the issues is bogus. Vince is what people want to see and hear from right now And we’re not gonna get anything of substance, much less an apology from him, if the last few times he doddered onto TV are any indication.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jul 16, 2022 19:46:03 GMT -5
Hearing the women getting upset about Vince taking their TV time reminds me of the Norm Macdonald joke where he says someone mentioned that the worst part of the Bill Cosby situation was the hypocrisy. When of course the worst part is the raping. Like you're more than right to think Vince is taking your time and all that. But I feel like you should be more upset that your boss is potentially a serial predator who fired a wrestler who refused to keep sleeping with him.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jul 16, 2022 19:58:24 GMT -5
Yeah, if Vince had brought in a high-priced call girl and then paid her for sex after the agreement of an NDA, that would be a bit weird and skeezy out of a 70 something year old man who's married, but it wouldn't be as insidious as "I used my influence as the boss to make an employee think that they must provide sexual favors for me" That's the big key here. "Billionaire paying for sex" is not exactly headline material, but it is within the context of it being a subordinate employee. I don't know how anyone could see differently. I initially read this as "high-priced catgirl" and am split on if that is a thing Vince would absolutely do or if it's something he would have absolutely zero concept of. ... Hang on a second I gotta reopen my Tryst account
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Post by Perd on Jul 16, 2022 20:30:00 GMT -5
Yeah, the most heavily featured woman on SD is Angela.
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Post by xCompackx on Jul 17, 2022 17:31:58 GMT -5
Vince forcing himself into things when people don't want him tracks with what he's being accused of.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Jul 17, 2022 20:15:43 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but Vince was on TV for less for 5 minutes any time he has appeared. While I dont doubt some women are annoyed in general, to suggest they are especially annoyed by Vince appearing for 5 minutes is just telling people what they want to hear Yeah this is just ridiculous 😂
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Jul 17, 2022 20:42:05 GMT -5
Apparently Hardcore Holly has been secretly married to Linda McMahon since 2010 lol (as seen on his wikipedia page)
Hardcore Holly gets all of the best things. He has probably just as much accolades as Vacant
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Post by nisidhe on Jul 17, 2022 20:55:04 GMT -5
My FB feed this weekend has been flooded with ads for the film _She Said_ coming out in November. It's about the NYT investigation into Harvey Weinstein.
If Weinstein was able to be taken down to the point that he's in f***ing prison, what hope does Vince McMahon have? I'm convinced there are others, and I'm convinced that it goes back further than anyone would expect or accept. If Linda knew of any of this and says nothing, it'll make her more hated than Ghislaine Maxwell.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 8:05:28 GMT -5
My FB feed this weekend has been flooded with ads for the film _She Said_ coming out in November. It's about the NYT investigation into Harvey Weinstein. If Weinstein was able to be taken down to the point that he's in f***ing prison, what hope does Vince McMahon have? I'm convinced there are others, and I'm convinced that it goes back further than anyone would expect or accept. If Linda knew of any of this and says nothing, it'll make her more hated than Ghislaine Maxwell. underage kids vs grown adults, only vince was involved vs providing for many different people as a service. not the same thing. vince isn't trafficking kids to world leaders
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Post by Kalmia on Jul 18, 2022 8:16:51 GMT -5
My FB feed this weekend has been flooded with ads for the film _She Said_ coming out in November. It's about the NYT investigation into Harvey Weinstein. If Weinstein was able to be taken down to the point that he's in f***ing prison, what hope does Vince McMahon have? I'm convinced there are others, and I'm convinced that it goes back further than anyone would expect or accept. If Linda knew of any of this and says nothing, it'll make her more hated than Ghislaine Maxwell. Weinstein had several firm accusations of rape against him, Vince's accusations are more coercion and harassment at this point. Weinstein deserved everything he got, but his convictions also came from people no longer wanting to protect him or turn a blind eye. The film industry was more than happy to see Weinstein hung out to dry, but I don't know if the wrestling industry will be as happy to see Vince finished. If it isn't, it can stop people from coming forward and make convicting Vince a lot more difficult.
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Post by fw91 on Jul 18, 2022 8:19:20 GMT -5
Apparently Hardcore Holly has been secretly married to Linda McMahon since 2010 lol (as seen on his wikipedia page) Hardcore Holly gets all of the best things. He has probably just as much accolades as Vacant Our new great meme.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jul 18, 2022 8:29:08 GMT -5
Apparently Hardcore Holly has been secretly married to Linda McMahon since 2010 lol (as seen on his wikipedia page) Hardcore Holly gets all of the best things. He has probably just as much accolades as Vacant I hope he asks "how do you like me now?" during sex.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 18, 2022 8:33:55 GMT -5
My FB feed this weekend has been flooded with ads for the film _She Said_ coming out in November. It's about the NYT investigation into Harvey Weinstein. If Weinstein was able to be taken down to the point that he's in f***ing prison, what hope does Vince McMahon have? I'm convinced there are others, and I'm convinced that it goes back further than anyone would expect or accept. If Linda knew of any of this and says nothing, it'll make her more hated than Ghislaine Maxwell. Weinstein had several firm accusations of rape against him, Vince's accusations are more coercion and harassment at this point. Weinstein deserved everything he got, but his convictions also came from people no longer wanting to protect him or turn a blind eye. The film industry was more than happy to see Weinstein hung out to dry, but I don't know if the wrestling industry will be as happy to see Vince finished. If it isn't, it can stop people from coming forward and make convicting Vince a lot more difficult. And this is why it’s concerning about shareholders and investors basically thinking Vince is the only guy for the job. You not only make it difficult for him to actually be forced out of his position because of, potentially, blatant use of corporate money for this stuff but also make it harder when Vince does pass on and leaves a power vacuum. And even if those stories come out after his death and his legacy gets torn to pieces, it’s not the closure those people would be looking for. Like, I obviously don’t want to come off like I’m overriding everything else but, again, Wall Street loves Vince. They have for a very long time. If they and the board of directors basically turn a blind eye to stuff against their policies along with any potential deals that could end or anything that’ll affect their bottom line a bit, it sends a real message and not a good one.
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