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Post by ssdrivin on Jul 19, 2022 0:16:41 GMT -5
"We never talk about religion or politics" - Vince had a feud and match with "God" - HHH f***ed Katie Vick's corpse in a Church which I'd say is pretty religious - The Ministry hanging people from Crosses - Brother D-Von Dudley - Mordecai - "Eddie's down there, IN HELL" - The Forgotten Sons - Barak Obama Impersonator - The first week or so of Retribution - Trump vs Rosie - The Vince "dream" where he woke up from a coma, heard Linda was running for a political seat, and he could be President, with his opponents sticker taped to his ass Like I know they treat everyone who watches like dumb pieces of shit all the time, but a statement like that is so hollow, especially given your past is very easily accessible... - Brother Love - Jack Swagger/Zeb Colter - (Early) New Day - Daivari/Hussan - Bill Clinton impersonator - Sgt. Slaughter - Rusev (big militant "Russian" - might as well throw Kozlov in there too) - "Stand Up For WWE" - Right to Censor (not strictly political, but an example of WWE making their opinions known) - "Make Darren Young Great Again" - Papa Shango - Deacon Batista (goes with Rev. D-Von, but worth mentioning anyway) - Bray Wyatt (as a supernatural cult leader) If you include identity politics, you can throw in a dozen or so ethnic gangs too. Also Joe Gacy, apparently.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jul 19, 2022 0:18:39 GMT -5
"We never talk about religion or politics" - Vince had a feud and match with "God" - HHH f***ed Katie Vick's corpse in a Church which I'd say is pretty religious - The Ministry hanging people from Crosses - Brother D-Von Dudley - Mordecai - "Eddie's down there, IN HELL" - The Forgotten Sons - Barak Obama Impersonator - The first week or so of Retribution - Trump vs Rosie - The Vince "dream" where he woke up from a coma, heard Linda was running for a political seat, and he could be President, with his opponents sticker taped to his ass Like I know they treat everyone who watches like dumb pieces of shit all the time, but a statement like that is so hollow, especially given your past is very easily accessible... Wait, wasn't the story was they filmed Katie Vick and in the next room an actual funeral was going on? And they told them to keep it down? I believe that’s accurate. Can’t remember what DVD or Network show it was on, but Hunter talked about hating the segment and being so f***ing awkward about it because there was an actual funeral going on while it was being filmed
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Post by Starshine on Jul 19, 2022 0:23:42 GMT -5
- "Make Darren Young Great Again" Don't forget "Believe in Bo" which was happening at the same time.
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ssdrivin
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Post by ssdrivin on Jul 19, 2022 0:29:10 GMT -5
- "Make Darren Young Great Again" Don't forget "Believe in Bo" which was happening at the same time. I'll be honest, I keep forgetting he even existed at this point...
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 19, 2022 0:34:03 GMT -5
To be fair, Brother Love was a man of love, not god.
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Post by Perd on Jul 19, 2022 1:13:32 GMT -5
No politics? You’re not fooling me, WWE. I know the entire Brock/Roman saga is an allegory for the ever simmering hatred between LBJ and Robert F. Kennedy.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 19, 2022 1:21:02 GMT -5
Watching that opening made me further realize this company doesn’t deserve Titus O’Neal. It just doesn’t.
Also, The F***?!
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Post by Helen of Jasper Troy on Jul 19, 2022 1:31:00 GMT -5
I LITERALLY LEARNED WHAT CANADA'S INITIAL FEELINGS ABOUT THE WAR IN IRAQ WERE BY WATCHING 2002 WWE AND SEEING CHRISTIAN YEARN TO BURN THE FLAG
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 19, 2022 1:33:34 GMT -5
I LITERALLY LEARNED WHAT CANADA'S INITIAL FEELINGS ABOUT THE WAR IN IRAQ WERE BY WATCHING 2002 WWE AND SEEING CHRISTIAN YEARN TO BURN THE FLAG Hey hey hey hey! Test was the one who was going to burn the flag. Storm and Christian were bystanders. I was at the MSG show where they almost did it so I should know!
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jul 19, 2022 1:35:33 GMT -5
So... They send Titus O'Neil out there to do some promo about "Oh, WWE is a safe space free from religion and politics". Two things... 1. That's our gimmick 2. Pre-emptive strike? They sent out one of the nicest guys in the entire industry to do propaganda, it's absolutely pre-emptive.
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Post by darbus alan on Jul 19, 2022 1:54:30 GMT -5
I LITERALLY LEARNED WHAT CANADA'S INITIAL FEELINGS ABOUT THE WAR IN IRAQ WERE BY WATCHING 2002 WWE AND SEEING CHRISTIAN YEARN TO BURN THE FLAG Remember that debate about the Iraq War between Christopher Nowitzki and Scott Steiner?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 19, 2022 1:57:46 GMT -5
I LITERALLY LEARNED WHAT CANADA'S INITIAL FEELINGS ABOUT THE WAR IN IRAQ WERE BY WATCHING 2002 WWE AND SEEING CHRISTIAN YEARN TO BURN THE FLAG Remember that debate about the Iraq War between Christopher Nowitzki and Scott Steiner? Remember the debate between Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler against Muhammad Hassan and Daivari? I like to remind people this was the first Raw that Sky Sports showed live in their long relationship. I stayed up for that.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Jul 19, 2022 2:05:30 GMT -5
We gotta get to the root of Phil Mushnick's hatred of wrestling, when he was a kid did Buddy Rogers tell him to "Get the hell outta here kid!" then slam the door in li'l Phil's face while he banged Mama Mushnick?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 19, 2022 2:08:29 GMT -5
We gotta get to the root of Phil Mushnick's hatred of wrestling, when he was a kid did Buddy Rogers tell him to "Get the hell outta here kid!" then slam the door in li'l Phil's face while he banged Mama Mushnick? That sounds too justifiable. It should be something like he messaged Bruno about how to get bigger and the Protein power he recommended gave him an allergic reaction.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2022 2:45:33 GMT -5
La Resistance were political too, put on tv at a time when France/US relations were poor due to differences over Iraq. Despite later gimmicks emphasizing their real life Quebec background they were initially pushed as French nationalists.
Also had JBL and the cabinet at the same time.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jul 19, 2022 2:46:43 GMT -5
"We never talk about religion or politics" - Vince had a feud and match with "God" - HHH f***ed Katie Vick's corpse in a Church which I'd say is pretty religious - The Ministry hanging people from Crosses - Brother D-Von Dudley - Mordecai - "Eddie's down there, IN HELL" - The Forgotten Sons - Barak Obama Impersonator - The first week or so of Retribution - Trump vs Rosie - The Vince "dream" where he woke up from a coma, heard Linda was running for a political seat, and he could be President, with his opponents sticker taped to his ass Like I know they treat everyone who watches like dumb pieces of shit all the time, but a statement like that is so hollow, especially given your past is very easily accessible... - Brother Love - Jack Swagger/Zeb Colter - (Early) New Day - Daivari/Hussan - Bill Clinton impersonator - Sgt. Slaughter - Rusev (big militant "Russian" - might as well throw Kozlov in there too) - "Stand Up For WWE" - Right to Censor (not strictly political, but an example of WWE making their opinions known) - "Make Darren Young Great Again" - Papa Shango - Deacon Batista (goes with Rev. D-Von, but worth mentioning anyway) - Bray Wyatt (as a supernatural cult leader) If you include identity politics, you can throw in a dozen or so ethnic gangs too. Also Joe Gacy, apparently. John Cena announcing the death of Osama Bin Laden... albeit in the most Vince-speak way possible so people may have been confused.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 19, 2022 3:28:58 GMT -5
Also even something as simple as having Hulk Hogan as your top guy and cutting his promos, that's political. It's not as much as other things on people's list but it's still political. Having Cena on top, Austin, Rock, Roman, all political in some ways. Defining what is considered a "face" and "heel" from their behavior is also political.
Like, I can keep going into it but being political isn't a switch you can turn on and off depending on the circumstances. It all gives a message in different ways, regardless of what people think.
EDIT: Also, sending a black man to make this statement? Political AF.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jul 19, 2022 3:40:56 GMT -5
Also even something as simple as having Hulk Hogan as your top guy and cutting his promos, that's political. It's not as much as other things on people's list but it's still political. Having Cena on top, Austin, Rock, Roman, all political in some ways. Defining what is considered a "face" and "heel" from their behavior is also political. Like, I can keep going into it but being political isn't a switch you can turn on and off depending on the circumstances. It all gives a message in different ways, regardless of what people think. It’s a bit of a paradox in simplicity. Like, most fans don’t really think of Wrestler X being pushed as the top star as some kind of political statement (conventional politics, not wrestling politics), but at the same time, not being political isn’t as simple as not going on about how “those clowns in Congress have done it again”. Like, why even say anything? It wasn’t really a subject matter drawing any attention.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jul 19, 2022 3:41:00 GMT -5
So... They send Titus O'Neil out there to do some promo about "Oh, WWE is a safe space free from religion and politics". Two things... 1. That's our gimmick 2. Pre-emptive strike? Titus is now the designated human shield, isn't he? First trotted out to try and counter justifiably negative reactions to Hulk Hogan, now this.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 19, 2022 3:44:34 GMT -5
Like, why even say anything? It wasn’t really a subject matter drawing any attention. Basically because it might not draw attention now but as the investigation goes out and the WSJ has more to report on the investigation, it's going to get much worse before it gets better so in their minds, putting out the message before more comes out is the most logical approach. Say you're family friendly and wouldn't be capable of such things so the fanbase can "Stand Up for WWE" when more news comes out.
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