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Post by sungod2020 on Jul 1, 2022 18:58:09 GMT -5
Generally I hate no selling but the exceptions are: Samoan/Maki Itoh hard head, just one of those things that makes wrestling wrestling.Sting. The old guy no selling for upcoming stars? I should hate it, I would if someone like Goldberg did the same but somehow it's great when Sting does it. Was also cool in his younger days but it just works better now for some reason. Undertaker. Kane and Big show to a lesser extent. Chair to the back, no sell, heel f***ed up moment. Stupid but I love it and it's no coincidence Sting does that to. Hogan hulking up at wm18, for one night it won me over. Ok that whole nostalgia run. Has it ever been explained, in kayfabe why wrestlers of Pacific Island ancestry have hard foreheads while everyone else dosen't?
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Post by THE FVNKER on Jul 1, 2022 19:01:59 GMT -5
Generally I hate no selling but the exceptions are: Samoan/Maki Itoh hard head, just one of those things that makes wrestling wrestling. Sting. The old guy no selling for upcoming stars? I should hate it, I would if someone like Goldberg did the same but somehow it's great when Sting does it. Was also cool in his younger days but it just works better now for some reason. Undertaker. Kane and Big show to a lesser extent. Chair to the back, no sell, heel f***ed up moment. Stupid but I love it and it's no coincidence Sting does that to. Hogan hulking up at wm18, for one night it won me over. Ok that whole nostalgia run. He's got his detractors when it comes to him still being semi-active but I think Sting gets a pass here because everyone is legit just glad that he's basically erased all the stupid bull shit WWE did to him just by being treated right, and well, in AEW.
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Post by buckethead on Jul 1, 2022 19:04:50 GMT -5
Only no selling I really liked was when The Road Warriors or the Russians would do it... especially against jobbers.
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Post by havokshofc on Jul 1, 2022 19:15:52 GMT -5
I have zero need for believability in my wrestling, but I always mark out for the babyface finally hulking up and no-selling. Hogan and Warrior did that well, but I think Sting might have been the best at it. Sting no selling Jarrett's guitar shot looked so incredibly badass. Underrated in my opinion but even better is his no selling of Angle accidentally hitting Sting with the bat.
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Post by Bad Moon on Jul 2, 2022 0:36:54 GMT -5
Generally I hate no selling but the exceptions are: Samoan/Maki Itoh hard head, just one of those things that makes wrestling wrestling.Sting. The old guy no selling for upcoming stars? I should hate it, I would if someone like Goldberg did the same but somehow it's great when Sting does it. Was also cool in his younger days but it just works better now for some reason. Undertaker. Kane and Big show to a lesser extent. Chair to the back, no sell, heel f***ed up moment. Stupid but I love it and it's no coincidence Sting does that to. Hogan hulking up at wm18, for one night it won me over. Ok that whole nostalgia run. Has it ever been explained, in kayfabe why wrestlers of Pacific Island ancestry have hard foreheads while everyone else dosen't? Apparently that's based on a real thing. Polynesians have a distinct skull shape that's thicker at the front.
the paper is from 1981 so take it with a grain of salt
Supposedly that's why guys of Pacific Island descent like Ray Sefo and Mark Hunt were so notoriously hard to KO.
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Post by 67 more on Jul 3, 2022 5:12:04 GMT -5
Sometimes what people call "no-selling" is not no-selling. Goldberg, imo, was very good at selling. He sold in a way that was appropriate for his character, i.e. he could be momentarily dazed but he would quickly recover like Jason Vorhees. Early Taker is the same way. A different type of selling, but not no-selling. Examples of no-selling to me would be guys who just sucked at it. Roddy Piper couldn't sell worth shit. Lou Albano didn't even try. Kevin Sullivan seemed like sometimes he would just get caught up in the action and forget that selling was something he should do. As for believable no-selling that was legitimately no-selling, the Road Warriors are the only example I can think of. Jobber matches aside, I think it worked for their characters when they would pop up after taking a slam or a piledriver. It contributed to the borderline superhuman nature of their characters, but they didn't do it so often that they were corny or Silliest Hawk no-sell I've ever seen is he had 1997 Kane do a normal piledriver (which I don't think he ever did again) so that he could pop back up. He then proceeded to take the chokeslam like shit and finally stay down for the Tombstone.
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Post by hentery on Jul 3, 2022 7:35:31 GMT -5
No selling works great depending on the wrestler and the intent. When it comes off as they don’t know how to sell not so much. Great no-sellers that it fit them were like undertaker, road warriors, Andre, big show and a bunch more that escape me at this time.
No selling doesn’t work when it’s unbelievable takes you out of the match or bc the wrestler is green. inoki vs the great Antonio is a good example of the green no sell. The young bucks no selling is on the non believable side, as is Hawk from LOD getting right up after a chokeslam and 5 star frog splash. Takes you out of it? Big show off the roof of the arena in Detroit, cena through a working spotlight (back the next night like nothing happened) and a lot of death match bs.
I’m ya gotta fit the character and the setting for the match.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Jul 3, 2022 7:45:46 GMT -5
Generally I hate no selling but the exceptions are: Samoan/Maki Itoh hard head, just one of those things that makes wrestling wrestling. Sting. The old guy no selling for upcoming stars? I should hate it, I would if someone like Goldberg did the same but somehow it's great when Sting does it. Was also cool in his younger days but it just works better now for some reason. Undertaker. Kane and Big show to a lesser extent. Chair to the back, no sell, heel f***ed up moment. Stupid but I love it and it's no coincidence Sting does that to. Hogan hulking up at wm18, for one night it won me over. Ok that whole nostalgia run. I think the reason it works so well with Sting is that he really picks his spots with when he no sells most of the time, and does it at just the right moment to get the crowd at fever pitch, and when he does sell (which is most of the time) he makes the offense look great. Goldberg's no selling just feels so old hat because it's a constant thing that he does and even when he does sell it's very minimalistic.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jul 3, 2022 8:19:00 GMT -5
One of my biggest pet peeves in the world is when people call things "No selling" when they aren't I have seen people post a clip of Shibata "no selling" the rainmaker a thousand times where he gets hit with it, is visibly affected and forces himself through sheer force of will to stay up. It's the exact opposite of a no sell. People still call it that all the time. There’s a good number of people out there who don’t really get the difference between selling and bumping.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 8:35:11 GMT -5
One of my biggest pet peeves in the world is when people call things "No selling" when they aren't I have seen people post a clip of Shibata "no selling" the rainmaker a thousand times where he gets hit with it, is visibly affected and forces himself through sheer force of will to stay up. It's the exact opposite of a no sell. People still call it that all the time. Shibata was a phenomenal seller and his march with Okada is a beautiful depiction of that.
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Post by Renslayer on Jul 3, 2022 9:40:28 GMT -5
Undertaker sitting up after Michaels hits him with Sweet Chin Music is when the first Hell in a Cell match really escalates into the classic it's known for. This is the one for me. God that match kicks so much ass
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