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Post by AwamoriRock on Jul 1, 2022 20:00:08 GMT -5
If she left, and she actually went back to Stardom, it’d be interesting because she would probably be able to do something more consistent than KAIRI’s deal. Rossy would obviously push her as a monster but she could put over quite a few stars there. Selfishly I’d prefer big time freelancer in Japan though lol
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Post by HMARK Center on Jul 1, 2022 20:48:32 GMT -5
Io back in a revamped Stardom is something to potentially get really excited about.
With AEW, their women's division overall talent level has taken a noticeable step up in recent times (speaking in comparison to having to rely heavily on younger/less experienced wrestlers for awhile), and Io plus Sasha would likely put it over the top. Who knows if Io would be looking to sign full time with them, but I fully imagine they'd be willing to make a deal where she comes in for stretches of time and works Japan otherwise, like what Shida's been doing.
Stuff like this really does suck for someone like Bianca or eventually Rhea, though; Bianca's getting the champ push now, Rhea seems lined up for that, but their available pool of challengers has just gotten well beyond decimated in recent times, and it doesn't appear that trend's going to be reversing any time soon. They have some more numbers in NXT right now, and there's some quality there (seriously, they have Rok-C, they cannot @#$% that up...yes, I know, that's very naive of me), but the main roster pickings aren't exactly brimming right now.
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Post by mistery on Jul 1, 2022 21:05:28 GMT -5
I'm amazed at people claiming she's done everything she can possibly do in WWE, which is just outright wrong. She hasn't had a main roster run, hasn't held an actual major title that WWE wants people to care about, won a Rumble or anything like that.
Also she trended tonight during Smackdown, at #5.
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Post by schma on Jul 2, 2022 17:31:40 GMT -5
I'm amazed at people claiming she's done everything she can possibly do in WWE, which is just outright wrong. She hasn't had a main roster run, hasn't held an actual major title that WWE wants people to care about, won a Rumble or anything like that. Also she trended tonight during Smackdown, at #5. Comments like that are likely aimed more at current management than Io. She could be huge but the people in charge don't want it and won't allow her the opportunity. So in a way, I can see what they're saying. They won't let her move up from NXT and there's little left for her there.
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Post by mistery on Jul 2, 2022 21:37:23 GMT -5
I think tonight's women's MITB pretty much showed that if Io even has the slightest inclination of wanting to sign a new deal, WWE better be backing up the money truck. It was bowling shoe ugly with Shotzi and Raquel looking greener than freshly grown grass, and Asuka probably being injured again with all of the really nasty spots she took tonight.
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Post by J is Justice on Jul 2, 2022 22:58:40 GMT -5
Man, Io would've been amazing to watch in that match.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2022 23:18:01 GMT -5
Man, Io would've been amazing to watch in that match. It would have possibly propeled this MITB match to being the best womens MITB match if not an all time classic in general. It was the vital thing this match was lacking a super athletic female that could just light up with highlight moments and again Io is the one woman that can do those that no other woman in the division can. Spring boarding onto the ladder , taken ladder bumps that would leave jaws on the floor similar to when she took the ladder bump that had everyone legit thinking she had died.
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Post by mistery on Jul 3, 2022 6:03:34 GMT -5
Man, Io would've been amazing to watch in that match. It would have possibly propeled this MITB match to being the best womens MITB match if not an all time classic in general. It was the vital thing this match was lacking a super athletic female that could just light up with highlight moments and again Io is the one woman that can do those that no other woman in the division can. Spring boarding onto the ladder , taken ladder bumps that would leave jaws on the floor similar to when she took the ladder bump that had everyone legit thinking she had died. Yeah. After how not great Raquel looked tonight I kinda hope WWE has buyers remorse trying to make her a pillar of the division over Io.
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Post by The Trashman on Jul 3, 2022 12:34:37 GMT -5
Maybe, but if Io goes to AEW, someone else will get bumped out. Tony's booking is quickly turning in to TNA booking - namely he'll push the new flavour of the month until he gets bored, then revert to his favourite. So she may end up just as frustrated there. But we'll see. If she does go to AEW, at least I'd still be able to see her, so that'd be good for me. As soon as they find TV for ROH that will help a ton. If anybody wanted ROH they would already be on TV. Also with AEW letting so many contracts expire it doesn't seem like they are trying to stockpile for a 2nd promotion.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Jul 3, 2022 13:06:30 GMT -5
As soon as they find TV for ROH that will help a ton. If anybody wanted ROH they would already be on TV. Also with AEW letting so many contracts expire it doesn't seem like they are trying to stockpile for a 2nd promotion. Let’s be honest though, the contracts they’re letting expire are of guys that don’t matter.
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Post by J is Justice on Jul 3, 2022 13:34:23 GMT -5
I enjoyed the MITB match but it was pretty rough in spots. I like her but Shotzi isn't great in the ring. Didn't watch Raquel in NXT but I haven't been impressed with her, either. And I just don't care about Lacey, sorry. Letting go of Io would be madness.
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Post by Mecca on Jul 3, 2022 13:56:46 GMT -5
As soon as they find TV for ROH that will help a ton. If anybody wanted ROH they would already be on TV. Also with AEW letting so many contracts expire it doesn't seem like they are trying to stockpile for a 2nd promotion. They have more than enough.. Cause they didn't keep Stu Grayson and Alan Angels doesn't mean ROH is dead.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 13:57:36 GMT -5
Insane to think you have a woman on your roster who can do THAT and keeping her in your gawd damn developmental.
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Post by Mecca on Jul 3, 2022 14:15:15 GMT -5
It would have possibly propeled this MITB match to being the best womens MITB match if not an all time classic in general. It was the vital thing this match was lacking a super athletic female that could just light up with highlight moments and again Io is the one woman that can do those that no other woman in the division can. Spring boarding onto the ladder , taken ladder bumps that would leave jaws on the floor similar to when she took the ladder bump that had everyone legit thinking she had died. Yeah. After how not great Raquel looked tonight I kinda hope WWE has buyers remorse trying to make her a pillar of the division over Io. They won't they are back to looks and bodies over talent.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jul 3, 2022 14:16:20 GMT -5
Insane to think you have a woman on your roster who can do THAT and keeping her in your gawd damn developmental. NXT only became developmental again less than a year ago to be fair so I don't think she's been wasted for the most part. She was wrestling on major PPVs/Takeovers in front of sold out crowds and one of the top stars on a national TV show. For most of her career she was regularly wrestling in front of tiny crowds in Stardom. NXT gave her a way bigger platform and she shined. Once NXT 2.0 became a thing though she should have been called up to the main roster. There was no reason to keep her there after the switch. Her, Ciampa, Strong and the like were out of place there with all the youngsters. She should have been tearing it up with Becky/Sasha/Charlotte/Asuka on Raw or Smackdown.
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Post by mistery on Jul 3, 2022 15:36:48 GMT -5
Insane to think you have a woman on your roster who can do THAT and keeping her in your gawd damn developmental. NXT only became developmental again less than a year ago to be fair so I don't think she's been wasted for the most part. She was wrestling on major PPVs/Takeovers in front of sold out crowds and one of the top stars on a national TV show. For most of her career she was regularly wrestling in front of tiny crowds in Stardom. NXT gave her a way bigger platform and she shined. Once NXT 2.0 became a thing though she should have been called up to the main roster. There was no reason to keep her there after the switch. Her, Ciampa, Strong and the like were out of place there with all the youngsters. She should have been tearing it up with Becky/Sasha/Charlotte/Asuka on Raw or Smackdown. Nah. I think its safe to say she's mostly been wasted. She's been saying for roughly 95% of her time in NXT that she wanted to be called up and work on a larger stage and face new challenges. Keep in mind that she originally left STARDOM because she wanted to go to WWE and face more/new challenges. And she has done everything she could do in NXT. So it's not hard to believe she might be sick of working in WWE if they aren't going to call her up and give her more to work towards. But instead of listening to Io and calling her up in what should have been a couple of years ago, they kept her down in NXT for...reasons unknown. And she's still down there. Hell, I wouldn't be shocked if the reason she isn't signing her new deal is because they want to continue keeping her down there (and less to do with seeing family as she mentioned during a Japanese interview before Stand and Deliver that during her most recent break before that point she was seeing family), and she's been very vocal about wanting to seek out new challenges. WWE clearly isn't going to offer her that. They want to keep her around so she doesn't go back to STARDOM or somewhere like AEW and provide them an actual serious credibility boost. It's also interesting that an interview with KUSHIDA came out recently where he implied that Japanese talents in NXT aren't prioritized as main roster callups, no matter how ready they might be. And the constant turnover + losing of talents like KOR and Danielson really didn't help their morale. Do remember that the only person who matters when it comes to calling you up is Vince. And it's painfully apparent now that Vince doesn't see any sort of real market value in Japanese stars at this point. Nick Khan has gone on record saying Japan is a market they want to break into, even stating they are looking for a good TV deal over there. But apparently it's not a Vince priority. The most baffling part is there are reports that Vince wanted to see Black and Gold talent not get complacent and want to work harder. To a point I made in a previous paragraph, Io is an actual draw for ratings as well. Wrestlenomics did a big writeup on NXT Black and Gold on their Patreon, and it basically boiled down to Io was one of the few stars on the show who way more often than not, drew in younger crowds, and at a decent number as well. I think she was also one of three NXT stars in general to break a million viewers during one of their matches, the other being Rhea and Shayna. And I think WWE knows this, which is why they are offering her a new deal (because they don't want her legitimizing the competition). But unless they cave and guarantee that she gets paid more on top of a guaranteed callup and featured spot on the show, I don't see her signing a new deal.
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Post by Legion on Jul 3, 2022 16:01:50 GMT -5
Insane to think you have a woman on your roster who can do THAT and keeping her in your gawd damn developmental. NXT only became developmental again less than a year ago to be fair so I don't think she's been wasted for the most part. She was wrestling on major PPVs/Takeovers in front of sold out crowds and one of the top stars on a national TV show. For most of her career she was regularly wrestling in front of tiny crowds in Stardom. NXT gave her a way bigger platform and she shined. Once NXT 2.0 became a thing though she should have been called up to the main roster. There was no reason to keep her there after the switch. Her, Ciampa, Strong and the like were out of place there with all the youngsters. She should have been tearing it up with Becky/Sasha/Charlotte/Asuka on Raw or Smackdown. This. Said the same thing a few pages back. She wasnt at all wasted in NXT until fairly recently.
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Post by darbus alan on Jul 3, 2022 16:09:01 GMT -5
Developmental could always use experienced veterans who can fill in the role of a player-coach. But Io is in the prime of her career and should've been called up a long time ago.
Whether she goes back to Japan or goes to AEW or Impact, she'll hopefully be used better. Hell, she'd probably be able to do both if Riho and Shida are anything to go by.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 3, 2022 23:26:14 GMT -5
As soon as they find TV for ROH that will help a ton. If anybody wanted ROH they would already be on TV. Also with AEW letting so many contracts expire it doesn't seem like they are trying to stockpile for a 2nd promotion. It took AEW months before they were on TV in an official capacity and that was after officially getting on a Network. You don't just GET on TV automatically like that, not everyone is owned by AXIS like Impact is. You need to go through a ton of business stuff, development, the right network and time of the week, arena for tapings I'd assume. Khan said at the last scrum that there's an aggressive push to get ROH on TV by the end of this year... but acting like some people's contracts have expired is some indication that ROH isn't going to happen is just a tad of a reach. They can also always re-sign people for ROH if they really wanted to when they get the TV deal as well, I don't know why you're acting like the people who leave can simply never ever return.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jul 3, 2022 23:33:02 GMT -5
If anybody wanted ROH they would already be on TV. Also with AEW letting so many contracts expire it doesn't seem like they are trying to stockpile for a 2nd promotion. It took AEW months before they were on TV in an official capacity and that was after officially getting on a Network. You don't just GET on TV automatically like that, not everyone is owned by AXIS like Impact is. You need to go through a ton of business stuff, development, the right network and time of the week, arena for tapings I'd assume. Khan said at the last scrum that there's an aggressive push to get ROH on TV by the end of this year... but acting like some people's contracts have expired is some indication that ROH isn't going to happen is just a tad of a reach. They can also always re-sign people for ROH if they really wanted to when they get the TV deal as well, I don't know why you're acting like the people who leave can simply never ever return. Tony Khan has mentioned several times that he's negotiating with Discovery for ROH TV right now and I imagine if the ROH deal does happen, it's included in their next AEW deal (along with streaming rights) as one giant package deal.
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