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Post by ChitownKnight on Jul 1, 2022 13:29:03 GMT -5
According to Meltz he might not appear at Summerslam and the Theory match may be delayed to mania 39. If so this will be the first time Cena hasn’t had a single match in the whole calendar year since 2001
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jul 1, 2022 13:34:36 GMT -5
Another thought is, and just hear me out, don’t waste one of the few matches Cena has left on Austin Buns??? I know WWE is dead set on getting as little as possible outta this megastar so par for the course.
How do you fumble John Cena at his most universally accepted position in decades? HOW!?!?
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Post by thehottag on Jul 1, 2022 13:39:54 GMT -5
There's a part of me that hopes he wins MITB on Sunday.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 1, 2022 13:41:34 GMT -5
How do you fumble John Cena at his most universally accepted position in decades? HOW!?!? Yeah, isn't this the second time they had Cena cut a promo without doing much of note on an episode of Raw? Like, this one feels less egregious because it was Cena's anniversary so you can not do as much with it but it's still like...it's John Cena. You can't at least have the guy hit a 5 Knuckle Shuffle and an AA by sending a Miz or someone out there? Otherwise...yeah, I've vented about this for almost years, the treatment of Cena since becoming part-time is ridiculously weird to me.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jul 1, 2022 13:48:54 GMT -5
Roman Reigns vs. John Cena vs. Cody Rhodes for both titles at Wrestlemania 39.
This is the way.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jul 1, 2022 13:56:00 GMT -5
I mean if that’s what they want to do, holding it until Mania instead of rushing it makes sense. I still don’t know that I trust Meltzer here, his rationale was that Cena wasn’t being advertised for the show and all you need is Theory calling him out and Cena getting added to show advertising.
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Post by Germansuplex on Jul 1, 2022 15:09:58 GMT -5
Wouldn't want to distract people from the excitement of Brock/Roman, part 7.384.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jul 1, 2022 15:11:16 GMT -5
I mean if you had a match for him at Summerslam, you book an angle on his 20th anniversary show. He is a draw and you'll get a bump. So if you have a match, use that to build interest to it. Now him going "well, see you sometime guys" makes somewhat more sense.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jul 1, 2022 15:45:16 GMT -5
How do you fumble John Cena at his most universally accepted position in decades? HOW!?!? Yeah, isn't this the second time they had Cena cut a promo without doing much of note on an episode of Raw? Like, this one feels less egregious because it was Cena's anniversary so you can not do as much with it but it's still like...it's John Cena. You can't at least have the guy hit a 5 Knuckle Shuffle and an AA by sending a Miz or someone out there? Otherwise...yeah, I've vented about this for almost years, the treatment of Cena since becoming part-time is ridiculously weird to me. I just think this is the first time WWE has one of their megastars that is mobile and still willing to play ball with them on their terms, and they don’t have a clue what do now. The only other comparison is Rock, who was the same level of star in 2004 at the time and actually tried to play ball with WWE for a time but for some reason they just weren’t interested?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 1, 2022 15:53:16 GMT -5
I'd rather they get this dumb Theory match out of the way if they really want to do it, pushing it to Mania is a disaster.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 1, 2022 16:54:45 GMT -5
I just think this is the first time WWE has one of their megastars that is mobile and still willing to play ball with them on their terms, and they don’t have a clue what do now. The only other comparison is Rock, who was the same level of star in 2004 at the time and actually tried to play ball with WWE for a time but for some reason they just weren’t interested? Weirdly, I think that’s it. They’re not used to having a part timer willing to come back as much as Cena has and can’t really find a role that makes sense to capitalize on it. The trouble is, their solution seems to be “give him unnecessary losses or not have him do much besides cut promos”. EDIT: And even the one loss that made sense, the one to The Fiend, they can’t really do much because they f***ing fired the guy.
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Jul 1, 2022 17:08:05 GMT -5
What do you mean we can't see him at Summerslam?
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jul 1, 2022 17:10:08 GMT -5
I just think this is the first time WWE has one of their megastars that is mobile and still willing to play ball with them on their terms, and they don’t have a clue what do now. The only other comparison is Rock, who was the same level of star in 2004 at the time and actually tried to play ball with WWE for a time but for some reason they just weren’t interested? Weirdly, I think that’s it. They’re not used to having a part timer willing to come back as much as Cena has and can’t really find a role that makes sense to capitalize on it. The trouble is, their solution seems to be “give him unnecessary losses or not have him do much besides cut promos”. EDIT: And even the one loss that made sense, the one to The Fiend, they can’t really do much because they f***ing fired the guy. What losses were unnecessary? He should have lost to Roman last year, it's understandable why they used him to get Shinsuke, AJ, Ambrose and Owens more legit. I think it could be argued if anything, that he was doing the right thing by trying to show a little ass to get the next generation over. I had the same thought you did, but I just looked at his win/loss record and it gave me pause. He's still winning a ton. I guess you could take away the Taker loss, but it feels like he kinda did the right thing with most losses. The issue might be less that Cena lost and more than WWE didn't actually pull the trigger on some of these guys - e.g. they didn't give Shinsuke the belt after he beat Cena.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jul 1, 2022 17:14:48 GMT -5
I just think this is the first time WWE has one of their megastars that is mobile and still willing to play ball with them on their terms, and they don’t have a clue what do now. The only other comparison is Rock, who was the same level of star in 2004 at the time and actually tried to play ball with WWE for a time but for some reason they just weren’t interested? Weirdly, I think that’s it. They’re not used to having a part timer willing to come back as much as Cena has and can’t really find a role that makes sense to capitalize on it. The trouble is, their solution seems to be “give him unnecessary losses or not have him do much besides cut promos”. EDIT: And even the one loss that made sense, the one to The Fiend, they can’t really do much because they f***ing fired the guy. Yeah, Cena’s in a weird place in this part-timer run. It’s a bit of a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation really, because we have all this chat about how they’re not really treating him with much respect given what he did for that company over the years… Yet at the same time, giving him big wins comes with the same pitfalls that always plagues the part-timer thing. Giving all the attention to a guy who isn’t in the weekly grind anymore, the “looking good in defeat” fallacy that exists because WWE can’t follow up things worth a damn, that kind of thing.
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Post by Instant Classic on Jul 1, 2022 17:14:56 GMT -5
It would seem Theory is in the Orton pre Foley match.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jul 1, 2022 17:19:54 GMT -5
It would seem Theory is in the Orton pre Foley match. Theory's good. The current gimmick is a little cartoony, but he's good. It makes sense they'd want him to work Cena.
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Post by Legion on Jul 1, 2022 17:30:44 GMT -5
Theory really is the full WWE package.
It's a shame Cena isn't able to come give him a rub, but if it happens at some point, cool.
In the mean time, Theory needs something to push him higher. Lashley is a good start, but if they want an active Legend to give him something, Edge is free.
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Post by jhbboy198917 on Jul 1, 2022 17:51:50 GMT -5
I'd prefer to have Cena vs GUNTHER with Cena going after the one title he hasn't won
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jul 1, 2022 18:03:37 GMT -5
Theory really is the full WWE package. It's a shame Cena isn't able to come give him a rub, but if it happens at some point, cool. In the mean time, Theory needs something to push him higher. Lashley is a good start, but if they want an active Legend to give him something, Edge is free. Theory vs. Sheamus would be a blast.
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Post by Chiral on Jul 1, 2022 18:12:39 GMT -5
No Match John
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