No Cena appearance for Summerslam apparently

[The Heartbreak TWERK]

Just remember, at the peak of their storytelling, WWE had a man in the creative chair who would storyboard out what he wanted to go down.

And they made fun of him for doing that.

[fw91]

Jul 1, 2022 17:51:50 GMT -5 jhbboy198917 said:

I'd prefer to have Cena vs GUNTHER with Cena going after the one title he hasn't won

eh... too much of a contrast in the personality department for this to work imo.

[A damn road sign]

Jul 1, 2022 18:43:39 GMT -5 fw91 said:

Jul 1, 2022 17:51:50 GMT -5 jhbboy198917 said:

I'd prefer to have Cena vs GUNTHER with Cena going after the one title he hasn't won

eh... too much of a contrast in the personality department for this to work imo.

Being that Cena has a personality and Gunther doesn’t?

[fw91]

Jul 1, 2022 20:18:49 GMT -5 A damn road sign said:

Jul 1, 2022 18:43:39 GMT -5 fw91 said:

eh... too much of a contrast in the personality department for this to work imo.

Being that Cena has a personality and Gunther doesn’t?

imo, yes.

[Feargus McReddit]

Jul 1, 2022 17:10:08 GMT -5 Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story said:

Jul 1, 2022 16:54:45 GMT -5 Feargus McReddit said:

Weirdly, I think that’s it. They’re not used to having a part timer willing to come back as much as Cena has and can’t really find a role that makes sense to capitalize on it. The trouble is, their solution seems to be “give him unnecessary losses or not have him do much besides cut promos”.

EDIT: And even the one loss that made sense, the one to The Fiend, they can’t really do much because they f***ing fired the guy.

What losses were unnecessary? He should have lost to Roman last year, it's understandable why they used him to get Shinsuke, AJ, Ambrose and Owens more legit. I think it could be argued if anything, that he was doing the right thing by trying to show a little ass to get the next generation over.

I had the same thought you did, but I just looked at his win/loss record and it gave me pause. He's still winning a ton. I guess you could take away the Taker loss, but it feels like he kinda did the right thing with most losses.

The issue might be less that Cena lost and more than WWE didn't actually pull the trigger on some of these guys - e.g. they didn't give Shinsuke the belt after he beat Cena.

I was more talking about that window from about Survivor Series 2017 to the first Roman loss in which, like, yeah, on paper the losses were fine but the way they happened were just there. The way he was just thrown into the Survivor Series team with no real build and the exit just happening was really dumb, the Taker feud and loss were utter jokes and the first Roman feud was basically “You’re not a draw Roman” “Oh yeah, I’ll beat you in a match” which he did decisively to the point where the intrigue of the second match at SummerSlam was How long was Cena going to last this time around which was “slightly longer than the first time”. Oh, and then when they did bring him back, they had him cut a promo on the start of the anniversary Raw and…just walk to the back when the Usos came out. Like…what?

I wasn’t expecting him to win or have any defining feuds at the time or anything but, like, the way they used him just felt like a waste of everyone’s time.

[Fade]

[Jonathan Coachman]

Man I hope this isn’t the case if it is that sucks. like Imagine waiting for one year to see John Cena wrestle and then he just loses i will rather him not wrestle at all

[El Cokehead del Knife Fight]

Jul 1, 2022 18:18:40 GMT -5 The Heartbreak TWERK said:

Just remember, at the peak of their storytelling, WWE had a man in the creative chair who would storyboard out what he wanted to go down.

And they made fun of him for doing that.

Is that the same guy who created a show bible to keep track of storyline elements and such & got bullied out of there?

[Bo Rida]

He probably noticed the amount of injuries throughout wrestling, realised that he'd probably dislocate his shoulder throwing his hat into the crowd and thought he'd give it a miss this year.

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

is he working on a movie soon? might be he was told not to wrestle so as to not mess up the shooting like what happened that one time with The Rock.

[Final Countdown Jones]

Jul 2, 2022 4:02:34 GMT -5 El Cokehead del Knife Fight said:

Jul 1, 2022 18:18:40 GMT -5 The Heartbreak TWERK said:

Just remember, at the peak of their storytelling, WWE had a man in the creative chair who would storyboard out what he wanted to go down.

And they made fun of him for doing that.

Is that the same guy who created a show bible to keep track of storyline elements and such & got bullied out of there?

Same guy. He did storyboarding, had a show bible, tried to arrange relationship charts to keep track of all the characters in relation to one another, and all the wrestling people he was a giant dork-ass even though that's the sort of stuff actual television shows do. You can still hear Prichard, years later, trying to underplay him and what he brought to the writers room even though the drop-off in wrtiting quality from their best year is really blatant in hindsight.

[bob]

Theory vs Cena would be great....

but Theory, besides badly needing his first name back, would need a mega push to be presented as being a serious threat to him IMO

[Feargus McReddit]

Jul 2, 2022 9:45:19 GMT -5 bob said:

Theory vs Cena would be great....

but Theory, besides badly needing his first name back, would need a mega push to be presented as being a serious threat to him IMO

I mean, this is literally the company that took a couple of weeks to make Jinder Mahal from career jobber to WWE Champion so they absolutely clearly do not need to do that.

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Jul 2, 2022 10:48:21 GMT -5 Feargus McReddit said:

Jul 2, 2022 9:45:19 GMT -5 bob said:

Theory vs Cena would be great....

but Theory, besides badly needing his first name back, would need a mega push to be presented as being a serious threat to him IMO

I mean, this is literally the company that took a couple of weeks to make Jinder Mahal from career jobber to WWE Champion so they absolutely clearly do not need to do that.

The fact that Theory isn’t already the world champion shows remarkable restraint in comparison to Mahal.

[Feargus McReddit]

Jul 2, 2022 11:07:38 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

Jul 2, 2022 10:48:21 GMT -5 Feargus McReddit said:

I mean, this is literally the company that took a couple of weeks to make Jinder Mahal from career jobber to WWE Champion so they absolutely clearly do not need to do that.

I mean, the fact that Theory isn’t already the world champion shows remarkable restraint in comparison to Mahal.

This is fair.

[KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!!]

Cena is gonna be a bummer this summer?

[bob]

Jul 2, 2022 11:07:38 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

Jul 2, 2022 10:48:21 GMT -5 Feargus McReddit said:

I mean, this is literally the company that took a couple of weeks to make Jinder Mahal from career jobber to WWE Champion so they absolutely clearly do not need to do that.

The fact that Theory isn’t already the world champion shows remarkable restraint in comparison to Mahal.

that's not really saying much, but you're right

[nisidhe]

I don't think Cena's coming back in any in-ring capacity anytime soon.

For starters, he's the star of a growing DC franchise series on a major streaming service; even in his downtime, he is bound by a contract with the production company and that network not to put himself in harm's way outside of production time.

Second, there's nobody left on the roster who could benefit from the rub that beating him should bring. Theory should probably be eyeing Roman if WWE really thinks he can be the Face of the Company. They're not going to do that, so Cena's talents and prestige would be wasted on him.

Third, and perhaps most pressing, Cena needs to limit his involvement with WWE right now lest he be swept up in the furore surrounding Vince McMahon. Cena has not had the cleanest reputation away from the ring in the past and to be linked publicly, even in passing, with the allegations against WWE executives will deeply hurt his career in Hollywood. Dwayne Johnson is this week seeing his father's name in the press over siblings Dwayne never knew he had; I can imagine what he must be thinking and feeling about a former employer who might well be guilty of far worse. Cena would absolutely do well to steer clear of WWE until all this is resolved once and for all - and, depending on that outcome, he may want to walk away from WWE for good.

[ChitownKnight]

Jul 2, 2022 14:25:05 GMT -5 nisidhe said:

I don't think Cena's coming back in any in-ring capacity anytime soon.

For starters, he's the star of a growing DC franchise series on a major streaming service; even in his downtime, he is bound by a contract with the production company and that network not to put himself in harm's way outside of production time.

Second, there's nobody left on the roster who could benefit from the rub that beating him should bring. Theory should probably be eyeing Roman if WWE really thinks he can be the Face of the Company. They're not going to do that, so Cena's talents and prestige would be wasted on him.

Third, and perhaps most pressing, Cena needs to limit his involvement with WWE right now lest he be swept up in the furore surrounding Vince McMahon. Cena has not had the cleanest reputation away from the ring in the past and to be linked publicly, even in passing, with the allegations against WWE executives will deeply hurt his career in Hollywood. Dwayne Johnson is this week seeing his father's name in the press over siblings Dwayne never knew he had; I can imagine what he must be thinking and feeling about a former employer who might well be guilty of far worse. Cena would absolutely do well to steer clear of WWE until all this is resolved once and for all - and, depending on that outcome, he may want to walk away from WWE for good.

Honestly I’d be happy with him going out against Roman. It’s a fitting last match (not gonna count the dark matches the mysterios)

[Kay Faban]

Jul 1, 2022 13:34:36 GMT -5 Magic knows Black Lives Matter said:

Another thought is, and just hear me out, don’t waste one of the few matches Cena has left on Austin Buns??? I know WWE is dead set on getting as little as possible outta this megastar so par for the course.

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