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Post by academicmaroon on Jul 2, 2022 12:16:18 GMT -5
So the Tombstone is my favorite wrestling move. Always thought the it was the ultimate "game over" type move and the visual of the receiver getting planted like a Tombstone, hence the name, looks devastating. But I'm curious what the community thinks of the move and how it's used today.
Bonus food for thought, pick one woman and one man in wrestling who don't use the Tombstone who you'd like to see add it to their repertoire.
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Jul 2, 2022 12:20:28 GMT -5
I think a version of the tombstone could be okay, but not the traditional way Taker delivered it. Leave the iconic finishers to the icons. I don't care for Owens using the stunner exactly as Stone Cold did, and yes I know he got his permission, but still.
As for who could have a version of it now, Rhea Ripley for sure.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Jul 2, 2022 12:22:37 GMT -5
The tombstone, or the 69 Driver, could be retired if it saves people's knees.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Jul 2, 2022 12:25:37 GMT -5
The tombstone, or the 69 Driver, could be retired if it saves people's knees. Yea, there’s not a good way to do it and not punish your knees. Knee pads may help short term but that impact still takes its toll. |
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jul 2, 2022 12:27:33 GMT -5
Two major drawbacks to the move being a finisher IRL (not including the potential for injury if there’s a botch)
1. Ask Taker how his knees are doing.
2. Foley wrote in his book that when he started in 1996, he was the first guy Taker could use his finisher on in years after feuding with so many super heavyweights. Your finisher should be able to be hit on anyone.
Also, much like the DDT and powerbomb it’s lost its match-ending impact when guys are hitting it as a transitional move.
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Post by academicmaroon on Jul 2, 2022 12:31:36 GMT -5
Impact absorbing knee pads perhaps? They are out there, just haven't seen them used in wrestling yet
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Post by academicmaroon on Jul 2, 2022 12:32:08 GMT -5
I think a version of the tombstone could be okay, but not the traditional way Taker delivered it. Leave the iconic finishers to the icons. I don't care for Owens using the stunner exactly as Stone Cold did, and yes I know he got his permission, but still. As for who could have a version of it now, Rhea Ripley for sure. Interesting, why Rhea and what variation would she use? |
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Post by academicmaroon on Jul 2, 2022 12:32:52 GMT -5
Two major drawbacks to the move being a finisher IRL (not including the potential for injury if there’s a botch) 1. Ask Taker how his knees are doing. 2. Foley wrote in his book that when he started in 1996, he was the first guy Taker could use his finisher on in years after feuding with so many super heavyweights. Your finisher should be able to be hit on anyone. Also, much like the DDT and powerbomb it’s lost its match-ending impact when guys are hitting it as a transitional move. Both true but there are more lighter and shorter people in Wrestling nowadays more than ever |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2022 13:07:23 GMT -5
It's better than The Overdrive.
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Post by 06vwgti on Jul 2, 2022 13:17:15 GMT -5
I love how it's been cheapened as a regular move. Never been a fan of taker out of the ring
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Post by Legion on Jul 2, 2022 13:27:17 GMT -5
Nah, leave it as Undertaker's move for at least 10 years.
Eventually it can come back if someone else can do it safely, but much like the stunner took a long time before anyone else was allowed to do it, The Tombstone should be the same now.
Obviously AEW guys are doing it already about 5 times a night, but that's ok, different company, different rules.
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Post by MrElijah on Jul 2, 2022 13:42:13 GMT -5
Two major drawbacks to the move being a finisher IRL (not including the potential for injury if there’s a botch) 1. Ask Taker how his knees are doing. 2. Foley wrote in his book that when he started in 1996, he was the first guy Taker could use his finisher on in years after feuding with so many super heavyweights. Your finisher should be able to be hit on anyone. Also, much like the DDT and powerbomb it’s lost its match-ending impact when guys are hitting it as a transitional move. Funny enough, I think only 3 people besides Taker, I've seen in my time watching wrestling used a Tombstone as a finish. That's Fit Finlay, Mongo and Justin Credible. Who invented the Tombstone anyway, Dynamite Kid? |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jul 2, 2022 15:03:58 GMT -5
Two major drawbacks to the move being a finisher IRL (not including the potential for injury if there’s a botch) 1. Ask Taker how his knees are doing. 2. Foley wrote in his book that when he started in 1996, he was the first guy Taker could use his finisher on in years after feuding with so many super heavyweights. Your finisher should be able to be hit on anyone. Also, much like the DDT and powerbomb it’s lost its match-ending impact when guys are hitting it as a transitional move. Foley also said, even though he trusted Taker completely, he was terrified every single time he went up for the move. |
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Post by Kalmia on Jul 2, 2022 15:06:33 GMT -5
I think it's cool when it's done on someone with long hair because you really can't see how close/far away their head is from the mat. With shorter-haired wrestlers though, if the camera angle isn't right it can look weak because of the (necessary) gap between the head and the mat.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jul 2, 2022 15:54:08 GMT -5
It will always be jarring to me if it's not used as a finisher. Especially if it's some enhanced version that still doesn't get a three count.
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Post by cassonova on Jul 2, 2022 16:54:24 GMT -5
Two major drawbacks to the move being a finisher IRL (not including the potential for injury if there’s a botch) 1. Ask Taker how his knees are doing. 2. Foley wrote in his book that when he started in 1996, he was the first guy Taker could use his finisher on in years after feuding with so many super heavyweights. Your finisher should be able to be hit on anyone. Also, much like the DDT and powerbomb it’s lost its match-ending impact when guys are hitting it as a transitional move. Funny enough, I think only 3 people besides Taker, I've seen in my time watching wrestling used a Tombstone as a finish. That's Fit Finlay, Mongo and Justin Credible. Who invented the Tombstone anyway, Dynamite Kid? Not sure who gets credit for inventing it, but Don Muraco is the earliest I recall using it as a finish. |
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Post by hentery on Jul 2, 2022 17:22:54 GMT -5
The tombstone, or the 69 Driver, could be retired if it saves people's knees. Yea, there’s not a good way to do it and not punish your knees. Knee pads may help short term but that impact still takes its toll. From the top of a cage through some AEW branded crash pads and foam possibly? |
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jul 2, 2022 17:33:22 GMT -5
As a kid, I thought it looked devastating.
As an adult, I think it looks a lot like something else. Always gets a "tee hee!" from me.
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Post by cornettesracket on Jul 2, 2022 18:07:34 GMT -5
Like the DDT or figure four, what was an actual finisher it’s been shat on and it a transition move now.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Jul 2, 2022 18:28:00 GMT -5
Like the DDT or figure four, what was an actual finisher it’s been shat on and it a transition move now. Tbf what hasn't been used as a transition move now? 😅 Could probably count the moves on one hand especially if you count alt. versions which in theory would have the same effect e.g. a million different ways to hit a lariat. |
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