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Post by ChitownKnight on Jul 15, 2022 16:31:28 GMT -5
Who is it? From wwe debut to first world title win. And yes we can count people that temporarily left. I think the actual winner is Bobby Lashley
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jul 15, 2022 16:38:37 GMT -5
HBK and Bret Hart both went 8 straight years after their debut to get their first WWF Title.
Andre made his first WWWF appearance in 1973, won the title in 1988.
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Post by government mule on Jul 15, 2022 16:45:03 GMT -5
Mark Henry or Christian
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Post by chronocross on Jul 15, 2022 16:54:14 GMT -5
I think it's Mark Henry, he made his debut in 1996 and won the World Title in 2011.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 15, 2022 17:25:08 GMT -5
Who is it? From wwe debut to first world title win. And yes we can count people that temporarily left. I think the actual winner is Bobby Lashley Bobby is debateable. When he won the ECW title it was a world title. Remember when Taker won the Rumble and was given hire his choice of champions to challenge he faced down Cena, Batista, and Lashley. It was only after the Benoit murders that the ECW title was devalued. If you dont count ECW then Bobby has 16 years, maybe the record. If you do count ECW then Henry or Andre both at 15.
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Post by 67 more on Jul 16, 2022 0:41:25 GMT -5
Who is it? From wwe debut to first world title win. And yes we can count people that temporarily left. I think the actual winner is Bobby Lashley Bobby is debateable. When he won the ECW title it was a world title. Remember when Taker won the Rumble and was given hire his choice of champions to challenge he faced down Cena, Batista, and Lashley. It was only after the Benoit murders that the ECW title was devalued. If you dont count ECW then Bobby has 16 years, maybe the record. If you do count ECW then Henry or Andre both at 15. If you're counting ECW, that would put Henry at 12. While they dropped world from the name, the ECW title would still get included in polls and stuff like "Who is most dominant world champion?" around that time.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 16, 2022 1:04:02 GMT -5
Bobby is debateable. When he won the ECW title it was a world title. Remember when Taker won the Rumble and was given hire his choice of champions to challenge he faced down Cena, Batista, and Lashley. It was only after the Benoit murders that the ECW title was devalued. If you dont count ECW then Bobby has 16 years, maybe the record. If you do count ECW then Henry or Andre both at 15. If you're counting ECW, that would put Henry at 12. While they dropped world from the name, the ECW title would still get included in polls and stuff like "Who is most dominant world champion?" around that time. But they also had the ECW champion entering the Rumble in 2008 which was the first clear sign that it was no longer on the level of the others. All a matter of opinion I guess since there can be no clear rules with this company.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jul 16, 2022 1:05:48 GMT -5
my first guess was Jeff Hardy.
he debuted in 92. getting conflicting reports most site list 94 as his first WWF match...
didn't get a title until 2008.
using the 94 date he was at 14.5 years.
and unlike Bobby he spent the majority of the time IN the company.
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Post by 67 more on Jul 16, 2022 1:09:33 GMT -5
If you're counting ECW, that would put Henry at 12. While they dropped world from the name, the ECW title would still get included in polls and stuff like "Who is most dominant world champion?" around that time. But they also had the ECW champion entering the Rumble in 2008 which was the first clear sign that it was no longer on the level of the others. All a matter of opinion I guess since there can be no clear rules with this company. It doesn't help that the belt was on Chavo. If the belt was still on Punk, it wouldn't be as bad but the belt was so devalued being put on Chavo. But still, you could have at least Chavo say something like "why wouldn't I want to be a double world champion?" Nowadays though, you have Jinder winning THE title and the WWE Champion appearing in the Rumble.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jul 16, 2022 1:15:50 GMT -5
Bobby is debateable. When he won the ECW title it was a world title. Remember when Taker won the Rumble and was given hire his choice of champions to challenge he faced down Cena, Batista, and Lashley. It was only after the Benoit murders that the ECW title was devalued. If you dont count ECW then Bobby has 16 years, maybe the record. If you do count ECW then Henry or Andre both at 15. If you're counting ECW, that would put Henry at 12. While they dropped world from the name, the ECW title would still get included in polls and stuff like "Who is most dominant world champion?" around that time. Also not counting the ECW title Bobby is at 15 5/12 years... if we're going full technically correct >_>
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 16, 2022 1:20:08 GMT -5
If you're counting ECW, that would put Henry at 12. While they dropped world from the name, the ECW title would still get included in polls and stuff like "Who is most dominant world champion?" around that time. Also not counting the ECW title Bobby is at 15 5/12 years... if we're going full technically correct >_> You can count ECW up until a certain point going by how it was treated. Until mid 2007 it was treated as a legit title. After that it was not treated that way. So.it was a world title until it was not.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 16, 2022 1:49:12 GMT -5
But they also had the ECW champion entering the Rumble in 2008 which was the first clear sign that it was no longer on the level of the others. All a matter of opinion I guess since there can be no clear rules with this company. It doesn't help that the belt was on Chavo. If the belt was still on Punk, it wouldn't be as bad but the belt was so devalued being put on Chavo. But still, you could have at least Chavo say something like "why wouldn't I want to be a double world champion?" Nowadays though, you have Jinder winning THE title and the WWE Champion appearing in the Rumble. It's not even so much "They put the belt on Chavo" that it is putting the belt on Chavo was just a way to get Kane to start feuding with Edge.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Jul 16, 2022 5:16:01 GMT -5
Kofi went 11 years I think from ECW debut in 2008 to world champion in 2019. Doesn't trump the above options but still a long time.
I always bang on about this but the sheer number of roster members who have been active in WWE 10+ years is astonishing when you think back to Undertaker's "decade of destruction" being seen as a great achievement at the time. I do think it contributes to the stale product we see today.
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Post by greyfmdan on Jul 16, 2022 6:54:12 GMT -5
I get what some of you are saying about the ECW being a world title for a time. But did anyone really buy it being on the same level as the WWE & WH titles? Did anyone think there was any chance Taker was going to challenge Lashley for it? I thought including Lashley in that storyline was a decent way to hype WWECW, and I guess you can count it if you look at it that way. But for me personally, I never thought it passed the eye test as a top-tier title.
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Post by tirtefaa on Jul 16, 2022 7:27:19 GMT -5
It took Vince McMahon 28 years to win one, but I guess the company felt he was owed after all he'd done for them.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 16, 2022 8:16:08 GMT -5
I get what some of you are saying about the ECW being a world title for a time. But did anyone really buy it being on the same level as the WWE & WH titles? Did anyone think there was any chance Taker was going to challenge Lashley for it? I thought including Lashley in that storyline was a decent way to hype WWECW, and I guess you can count it if you look at it that way. But for me personally, I never thought it passed the eye test as a top-tier title. I think the second Lashley vacated it, it became no longer a world title so anyone who won it then or earlier counts and anyone afterwards doesn't
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jul 16, 2022 14:16:02 GMT -5
I get what some of you are saying about the ECW being a world title for a time. But did anyone really buy it being on the same level as the WWE & WH titles? Did anyone think there was any chance Taker was going to challenge Lashley for it? I thought including Lashley in that storyline was a decent way to hype WWECW, and I guess you can count it if you look at it that way. But for me personally, I never thought it passed the eye test as a top-tier title. I think the second Lashley vacated it, it became no longer a world title so anyone who won it then or earlier counts and anyone afterwards doesn't Yeah, they real life teased Taker challenging for the title as a possibility when he won the Rumble that year. After Lashley vacated it, the drop was obvious.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 16, 2022 14:22:58 GMT -5
I think the second Lashley vacated it, it became no longer a world title so anyone who won it then or earlier counts and anyone afterwards doesn't Yeah, they real life teased Taker challenging for the title as a possibility when he won the Rumble that year. After Lashley vacated it, the drop was obvious. If the Benoit situation had not happened and he won the belt I think would have stayed a world title for awhile longer. But once Johnny Nitro won it was over and done.
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