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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jul 31, 2022 17:07:34 GMT -5
Is there a 50/50 that has ever been done right, though? And without limiting the stories you can tell with people and stables and such? Because I really, genuinely don’t think there is. You’d just be giving people wins to do it at that point: I think the whole point of 50/50 booking done right is that you just don't notice it. The term came about when the WWE would give each person wins, like, literally on back-to-back weeks. But it makes more sense if you pull back and look over the course of years and have the orientation that each person or faction wins about as many feuds as they lose. I'm not sure that zero-sum booking even in the long term really pans out well, largely because logistically that's a nightmare. Roster turnover happens for so many reasons, changing placement on the card can happen organically in defiance of well-laid plans or in times of emergency. I can't think of any promotion that has pulled off anything like that, or even really attempted it.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jul 31, 2022 17:46:01 GMT -5
I think the whole point of 50/50 booking done right is that you just don't notice it. The term came about when the WWE would give each person wins, like, literally on back-to-back weeks. But it makes more sense if you pull back and look over the course of years and have the orientation that each person or faction wins about as many feuds as they lose. I'm not sure that zero-sum booking even in the long term really pans out well, largely because logistically that's a nightmare. Roster turnover happens for so many reasons, changing placement on the card can happen organically in defiance of well-laid plans or in times of emergency. I can't think of any promotion that has pulled off anything like that, or even really attempted it. I mean this is because we're using the frame of "50/50 booking done well," and I really should have remembered that half the point of a phrase like "50/50 booking" is to frame the lack of rigid tiers in a roster as impossible or pointless. You just book with an orientation that everyone on the roster is about of equal competence. That doesn't mean no one can win feuds. It doesn't mean someone can't be on a hot or cold streak, or that a champion can't really be in their groove so they hold a title for a while.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 31, 2022 21:40:28 GMT -5
Yes and no. I think the heel jobbers are treated with enough respect that while people know they're losing they're able to do something that makes them credible enough to get their opponents over. I do think there's an issue with face jobbers though where really you only have Shawn Dean and MAYBE Serpentico for hoss's where you can rely on them to help get a heel over.
You run into situations where young talent you clearly want to get tv time are being used as jobbers and those matches just don't end up well.
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