thehottag
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We're here for one reason only: fame, fortune, & the World Wrestling Federation Tag Team Champions!
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Post by thehottag on Jul 23, 2022 6:46:36 GMT -5
The corporate side of WWE would not put out a press release and update their website for a work. A publicly traded company is not going to work investors about who the CEO is. I can’t believe this still needs to be said. To some people, everything is a work in wrestling. I dunno, maybe they're scared of looking a fool ("I never believed it!", etc.) For years afterwards, I had people who were convinced Eddie Guerrero's death was a work.
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Lardlad
El Dandy
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Post by Lardlad on Jul 23, 2022 6:46:51 GMT -5
LMAO OH f*** SMACKDOWN IS TONIGHT WHY DOES THIS SHIT ALWAYS HAPPEN WHEN LIVE SMACKDOWN LOOMS IN THE DISTANCE? LMFAO Because news like this always comes out on Friday afternoons, pal.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 23, 2022 6:51:26 GMT -5
My feelings after sleeping on it:
Vince did incredible things for this business, but waaaaaaay overstayed his welcome, and he's a scumbag, so...
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jul 23, 2022 7:08:59 GMT -5
My feelings after sleeping on it:
Vince did incredible things for this business, but waaaaaaay overstayed his welcome, and he's a scumbag, so... Yes to all these points. Absolute scumbag, and really, he has found a way to make himself the focal point of so many angles over the last 20 years that would have been so much better if he wasn't involved. Or if that time had been given to other people altogether. Guy should have stepped back to a 95% behind the scenes role after Bret beat him at Wrestlemania.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Jul 23, 2022 7:23:09 GMT -5
Okay, we know why this was and all that. (Basically Vince did unto himself before anyone else could do unto him)
But here's what I think: Vince needless to say is a complicated person, to put it nicely. His retirement isn't going to make me give him instant sainthood. Some people have horror stories, as we know and have been reminded of, but there's people who have nice stories too. One doesn't totally cancel out the other.
Still... you can't deny his importance to the business in his prime. How many of us would be wrestling fans if not for the original WWF boom? Yeah there's some too cool for the room types out there who will say "I was a JCP/whatever guy" all along. But really, most of us took notice when the expansion happened.
Just saying...I for one first took notice in general when I saw ads for the LJN figures then joined in on Championship Wrestling telecasts just as WrestleMania 2 was being built up. And without the WWF, I'd never follow up by watching JCP, AWA, WCCW, et al. I met friends through wrestling, had interesting experiences too. And while I may dislike other things he did, I can always thank him for that.
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Post by bluebeach25 on Jul 23, 2022 7:31:33 GMT -5
My feelings after sleeping on it:
Vince did incredible things for this business, but waaaaaaay overstayed his welcome, and he's a scumbag, so... Yes to all these points. Absolute scumbag, and really, he has found a way to make himself the focal point of so many angles over the last 20 years that would have been so much better if he wasn't involved. Or if that time had been given to other people altogether. Guy should have stepped back to a 95% behind the scenes role after Bret beat him at Wrestlemania. Let alone the past 10-15 years. Look at all the Stars they could have get over (Mcintyre 09/10, The Nexus 10, Alex Riley 11, Ryback 12, Damien Sandow 13, Cesaro 14, Wyatt 15) and much more. But the fact that Vince made the call for Taker to lose at WM 30 was 100% a good choice i still feel like. Had Taker beat Lesnar we wouldn't have Lesnar's big monster run afterwards and Reigns would have broken it, it would have been a shitstorm all over.
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Post by asssvvvvxc on Jul 23, 2022 8:07:13 GMT -5
buckle up the post Vince McMahon era of WWE is about to get interesting
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jul 23, 2022 8:10:48 GMT -5
Everytime I see one of the wrestlers write some glowing tweet to Vince I remember that the marks are not the fans, it's the people who work in the business. We know it's the circus, it's the clowns that think it's family.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jul 23, 2022 8:59:32 GMT -5
Everytime I see one of the wrestlers write some glowing tweet to Vince I remember that the marks are not the fans, it's the people who work in the business. We know it's the circus, it's the clowns that think it's family. True, but they do know him personally so their feelings and opinions of him due to their one-on-one interactions with him are also valid.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jul 23, 2022 9:14:14 GMT -5
For the time being, I’m figuring most of Nick and Steph’s creative calls over the next few months will revolve around assuring investors that everything isn’t on fire. What major changes happen will depend on the fallout from whatever Vince stories are on the horizon, how the public feels about WWE and Vince’s continued association as majority owner. I think you’d start seeing “new era” moves with fresh belts, different verbiage and remodeling the set if things start to get even *worse*, which they very much could. The bigger picture to me ATM aside from “better wrestling” is that the people who Vince mistreated can get some sort of justice or closure after they’ve spoken their pieces.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 23, 2022 9:23:14 GMT -5
For the time being, I’m figuring most of Nick and Steph’s creative calls over the next few months will revolve around assuring investors that everything isn’t on fire. What major changes happen will depend on the fallout from whatever Vince stories are on the horizon, how the public feels about WWE and Vince’s continued association as majority owner. I think you’d start seeing “new era” moves with fresh belts, different verbiage and remodeling the set if things start to get even *worse*, which they very much could. The bigger picture to me ATM aside from “better wrestling” is that the people who Vince mistreated can get some sort of justice or closure after they’ve spoken their pieces. Pretty much all of that. Most of the short term is going to be showing investors that what they heard about Steph came from “disgruntled employees” (and certainly not people on the board, nooooo way) and Nick can take the step up from President to CEO and share the position with a member of Vince’s family. Everything else is going to be longer term as they need to finish what Vince set out for the road to SummerSlam and then figure out the best direction for the company that won’t cause shareholder heads to collectively explode. I’d be even shocked if we got new era stuff or any branding because it’ll make it more obvious, this stuff should be subtle and transitional. And yes, I share the sentiment, I hope the victims get closure and some kind of change comes to the working environment for people still working on the company.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 9:36:15 GMT -5
I can only imagine a Vince Podcast with Conrad Thompson.
"Chat me up Vince, tell us why you were wearing your durag during that time period.
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Post by mistery on Jul 23, 2022 9:36:52 GMT -5
Listening to WOR right now, and Dave mentioned that it's very likely Triple H gets involved with creative now. No idea of the extent of his involvement, but he was providing some (but not all) feedback last night. Ed Koskey and Bruce Pritchard were overseeing Smackdown last night as the points of contact though.
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Venti
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Post by Venti on Jul 23, 2022 10:26:49 GMT -5
Triple H is such a wrestling guy, and loves the old school stuff, so im very hopeful about him being involved with creative.
Maybe he'll let the wrestlers have some more freedom, since he had been there in that spot for years and probably knows that being handed an in-depth script rather than being allowed to cut a promo sucks.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Jul 23, 2022 10:33:09 GMT -5
I can only imagine a Vince Podcast with Conrad Thompson. "Chat me up Vince, tell us why you were wearing your durag during that time period. If you've heard the Bruce podcast in the past 3 years just imagine that without the impressions
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lucas_lee
Hank Scorpio
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Post by lucas_lee on Jul 23, 2022 10:33:26 GMT -5
Vince is the old adeage of hurt people hurts people. Its horrific what he went through as a child (sexual and physical abuse) but it doesn't excuse him or get him a pass for his behavior. He'll have to live with victimizing people and how that might have ripple effects in their lives too.
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asuka007
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Post by asuka007 on Jul 23, 2022 11:04:14 GMT -5
Listening to WOR right now, and Dave mentioned that it's very likely Triple H gets involved with creative now. No idea of the extent of his involvement, but he was providing some (but not all) feedback last night. Ed Koskey and Bruce Pritchard were overseeing Smackdown last night as the points of contact though. TBF to Pritchard, he can be fine when he’s but obsessed with kissing up to Vince constantly.
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Post by crowley1986 on Jul 23, 2022 11:28:40 GMT -5
Triple H is such a wrestling guy, and loves the old school stuff, so im very hopeful about him being involved with creative. Maybe he'll let the wrestlers have some more freedom, since he had been there in that spot for years and probably knows that being handed an in-depth script rather than being allowed to cut a promo sucks. if the crowd goes with it, he tended to go along with it , on NXT - think it was Blue pants, he had no idea why it was popular but ran with it
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FHgrad99
Vegeta
Never mind that s***, here comes Mongo!
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Post by FHgrad99 on Jul 23, 2022 11:41:52 GMT -5
Triple H is such a wrestling guy, and loves the old school stuff, so im very hopeful about him being involved with creative. Maybe he'll let the wrestlers have some more freedom, since he had been there in that spot for years and probably knows that being handed an in-depth script rather than being allowed to cut a promo sucks. I think Triple H. would do well as a part of the creative team. He's very passionate about the business and he shown in NXT the ability to listen to the fans and adjust accordingly, which Vince was very hesitant about doing.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jul 23, 2022 12:00:19 GMT -5
Did this story make your local papers too?
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