Push R Truth
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Post by Push R Truth on Jul 29, 2022 8:17:15 GMT -5
The Saudi Prince might have decided it was cheaper/easier to buy WWE than to contract them for 2 big shows a year.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 29, 2022 8:22:25 GMT -5
The Saudi Prince might have decided it was cheaper/easier to buy WWE than to contract them for 2 big shows a year. Good chance of that. Didnt they try to buy into UFC but UFC pulled out of the deal with the bad publicity?
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jul 29, 2022 8:26:50 GMT -5
What assets does WWE have to sell that'd make them worth the price tag they'd ask, though? A media library? This isn't exactly like The House of Mouse buying Marvel. The contracts they have with USA and Fox. And the likelihood that they will be renewed for more next time. Their contracts with USA and Fox are dependent on and go toward the continued production of their wrestling show, though. For a company to buy WWE because of their lucrative TV deals is to want to be in the wrestling business. To produce pro wrestling. Therein lies the problem; a lot of people with money don't want to do that. Disney didn't buy Marvel to get in the comic book business, for comparison.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jul 29, 2022 8:49:43 GMT -5
The contracts they have with USA and Fox. And the likelihood that they will be renewed for more next time. Their contracts with USA and Fox are dependent on and go toward the continued production of their wrestling show, though. For a company to buy WWE because of their lucrative TV deals is to want to be in the wrestling business. To produce pro wrestling. Therein lies the problem; a lot of people with money don't want to do that. Disney didn't buy Marvel to get in the comic book business, for comparison. Yeah! They bought it because Stan Lee triple dog dared Bob Iger and then called him a namby-pamby till he did it.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 29, 2022 8:51:15 GMT -5
The contracts they have with USA and Fox. And the likelihood that they will be renewed for more next time. Their contracts with USA and Fox are dependent on and go toward the continued production of their wrestling show, though. For a company to buy WWE because of their lucrative TV deals is to want to be in the wrestling business. To produce pro wrestling. Therein lies the problem; a lot of people with money don't want to do that. Disney didn't buy Marvel to get in the comic book business, for comparison. Which is why it is unlikely anyone will buy them unless they want to be in the wrestling business. For instance the Saudis. Now they could be bought by a venture capitalist firm. They borrow the money to buy WWE, saddle the company witb the debt, run the company for awhile charging it outrageous management fees, begin to sell off assets as the company sinks further into debt, then bankrupt it and sell off anything left.
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Post by mc74 on Jul 29, 2022 9:56:38 GMT -5
Never thought I'd see this happening considering a lot of us figured that Vince was going to remain in power until the very end.
With him now out of the picture, I'm very interested in what happens from here on out.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 29, 2022 13:22:56 GMT -5
The contracts they have with USA and Fox. And the likelihood that they will be renewed for more next time. Their contracts with USA and Fox are dependent on and go toward the continued production of their wrestling show, though. For a company to buy WWE because of their lucrative TV deals is to want to be in the wrestling business. To produce pro wrestling. Therein lies the problem; a lot of people with money don't want to do that. Disney didn't buy Marvel to get in the comic book business, for comparison. Yeah and like... Marvel was a giant pile of IPs waiting to be monetized in alternate media. Any comic sales are a nice tiny little bonus at best. You can't do that with WWE. They have no recognizable IPs that can be transferred to other media. You can't just have someone come in and be the NEW Hulk Hogan (hell, Fake Diesel and Razor proved this). You'd also have to pay likeness rights and such. WWE just doesn't have the transferrable IP rights that would make it worth the asking price.
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Post by Dub H on Jul 29, 2022 13:26:55 GMT -5
The Saudi Prince might have decided it was cheaper/easier to buy WWE than to contract them for 2 big shows a year. Think of a WWE being led by a bigoted tyrant with a lot of blood in his hand. But enoug about Vince
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Post by nisidhe on Jul 29, 2022 15:11:20 GMT -5
I'm not sure that the SEC would allow a sale of WWE to the Saudi government (or anyone associated closely with them) even if the KSA were interested. I'm not sure that they would be without Vince at the helm.
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Post by xCompackx on Jul 29, 2022 16:22:36 GMT -5
The contracts they have with USA and Fox. And the likelihood that they will be renewed for more next time. Their contracts with USA and Fox are dependent on and go toward the continued production of their wrestling show, though. For a company to buy WWE because of their lucrative TV deals is to want to be in the wrestling business. To produce pro wrestling. Therein lies the problem; a lot of people with money don't want to do that. Disney didn't buy Marvel to get in the comic book business, for comparison. You're literally just doing what Cody Rhodes and the guys did with starting AEW; find an eccentric billionaire who loves pro wrestling to fund and operate it.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 29, 2022 19:34:50 GMT -5
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jul 29, 2022 19:45:44 GMT -5
The talk of if Trips and Steph end up keeping Dunn, I can't help but think of stuff like this. Is this the kind of infamy WWE wants their production work to have? Oh my God. I had never thought of it before, Kevin Dunn does the thing that makes me hate most fight scenes in modern narrative media and retreat to wrestling and tokusatsu for fight scenes that are actually readable.
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Post by karl100589 on Jul 30, 2022 1:53:34 GMT -5
The Saudi Prince might have decided it was cheaper/easier to buy WWE than to contract them for 2 big shows a year. Good chance of that. Didnt they try to buy into UFC but UFC pulled out of the deal with the bad publicity?
Given Dana willingly allows fighters endorsed by Kadyrov into his promotion I doubt it.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jul 30, 2022 4:34:32 GMT -5
The big thing with that Once Upon A Time clip is that the cuts here are being used to mask the fact they don't have actors who are trained to actually do fight scenes well. It's a million cuts to mask a low budget and performers that aren't up to it; sort of like how it takes so many camera cuts for Liam Neeson to jump over a fence, because Liam Neeson can not in fact get over a fence. Wrestlers, on the other hand, are trained to do fight scenes well. That's their job! Almost every wrestling match ever worked is one of those one-take fight scenes people will always mark out about when one shows up, and WWE's production does a massive disservice to that by making it into disorienting garbage and masking the talent of the wrestlers who perform it. Camera cuts are in no way inherently bad, but WWE spams them carelessly and artlessly to the detriment of its own product and to the wrestlers destroying their bodies to put on these shows.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 30, 2022 5:46:57 GMT -5
Good chance of that. Didnt they try to buy into UFC but UFC pulled out of the deal with the bad publicity? Given Dana willingly allows fighters endorsed by Kadyrov into his promotion I doubt it.
No they did. They paid 400 million for a stake in UFC that was returned and the deal cancelled after the journalist was murdered. Right around the time WWE started dealing with them.
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Post by beefy on Jul 30, 2022 5:56:43 GMT -5
The big thing with that Once Upon A Time clip is that the cuts here are being used to mask the fact they don't have actors who are trained to actually do fight scenes well. It's a million cuts to mask a low budget and performers that aren't up to it; sort of like how it takes so many camera cuts for Liam Neeson to jump over a fence, because Liam Neeson can not in fact get over a fence. Wrestlers, on the other hand, are trained to do fight scenes well. That's their job! Almost every wrestling match ever worked is one of those one-take fight scenes people will always mark out about when one shows up, and WWE's production does a massive disservice to that by making it into disorienting garbage and masking the talent of the wrestlers who perform it. Camera cuts are in no way inherently bad, but WWE spams them carelessly and artlessly to the detriment of its own product and to the wrestlers destroying their bodies to put on these shows. This is the most eloquent explanation to the biggest issue with WWE’s television production. Absolutely spot on.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Jul 30, 2022 6:01:18 GMT -5
How much time is left on WWE's deal with the Saudis and Brock Lesnar respectively?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jul 30, 2022 6:11:49 GMT -5
How much time is left on WWE's deal with the Saudis and Brock Lesnar respectively? The Saudi's was like a ten year deal...so 7? Something like that. Lesnar, I'm not sure, but he felt confident enough to walk last week, even if for a few hours.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jul 30, 2022 6:13:43 GMT -5
How much time is left on WWE's deal with the Saudis and Brock Lesnar respectively? I believe the Saudi deal was 10 years from April 2018. Accounting for two events missed due to COVID which they’ll be keen to make up, this contract is probably due to end in April 2029.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jul 30, 2022 7:19:15 GMT -5
How much time is left on WWE's deal with the Saudis and Brock Lesnar respectively? I believe the Saudi deal was 10 years from April 2018. Accounting for two events missed due to COVID which they’ll be keen to make up, this contract is probably due to end in April 2029. Jeez! I wonder who in the now-current regime is happy with this deal.
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